ENGLISH DERBY 2015

Why would they let those boarding kennel managers take over??

Only Nidge with Matt I think

Seem to remember Dolores going back and forth. Must have suited her dogs but I'm not a trainer

Did she really? I thought she was based over there for the competition duration

Some used to travel back and forth if they only had the 1 runner for the first 2 rounds and then base themselves over there is making the last 32

Oh right. Just thought some travelled

i had a dog from the droopys nidge damline way back like nidge he was a machine but very similar to him if he had a months rest he could do the clock give him a run every week he went back   the late dr droomey said he had a heart problem  he never got to race  i doubt if matt will do better with him than the man thad had him

for what its worth while iam afan of droopys nidge i would not back him @ any price to win the derby

Graham Holland is based at Eric Cantillon's for the duration.

Good luck thursday miss wales,myself and czech will be there if youre going down.

all the best miss wales. if and when you see graham would you tell him trevor from southamton wishes him all the best.

thatsmy mate who had dogs with him on the south coast about 15yrs ago.

heres a link about graham ( my mates dog was outlaw spiceboy ).

good luck miss wales.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Greyhounds%3A+Graham+Holland+on.+.+.-a070010557

Barrie had 4 winners out of 9 last night at Sheffield. Augurs well for his Derby team. Come on Rock!

Herd of goats if your comparing he's team
To the ones  he'd had previous years !
Still didn't win it with a freak like eske!
Balllymac dog I'd waited for Sunderland with

You're right Fatty but dont think Derby as hot as previous ones, wide open and who would have thought Salad Dodger last year? At least Rock won the Monmore Puppy Derby. Bit young but place booked in Juvenile already? Monmore race thrown up some bright sparks and got more scope and potential than most. 500 but of an insult, imo

Thanks for all the good wishes gents.

Patrick

I'll be there on Thursday, watching through my fingers no doubt, and I'll try and catch up with you guys.

I know it's a cliché but qualification is all that matters. First 2 means absolutely no room for error or bad luck.

GLASGOWCALLING

Jeez - that's an old one. I think Outlaw Spice Boy was the start of Graham's love affair with Ireland. I was over at his "ranch" earlier in the year and it would be hard to find a better set-up. If hard work and dedication were the deciding factor the kennel would be winning the Derby every year.

All the best Miss Wales

g l lads

wales , your dog has got terrific back straight pace

Mike/Irish

Thanks for that.


eyeball

That's certainly his forte, so to speak, but we fear he's a yard short of early and hasn't really run the bends that well up to now.


Be lucky.

Whos ur Dog wales Stevie ?

Case riverside pat

wow

Good luck with riverside pat, i had 30e on pat at 50/1 with Boyles today.

Been topping up. Had 65/1 Riverside Pat but more worthwhile winning after going in again at 50/1. Had tiny each-way bet Deanridge Pennys at 250/1 and little bet on the nose too at 66/1 this time. Again, now worthwhile

Good luck!

you must be betting about even money now

I dont look at it that way. Got some dogs only break even but about 8 winning £200 or £300. No matter what happens, i will have had my chances. Lost a third of my entire stakes on non starters, too!

People auto watch the riverside pat race
Befor he got a solo last week !
That is what will happen more or less on inside !

Is rather be wide than rails if a off the pace type !

Seen him lead before today, Fatty. Closing Brogan down two for one approaching third bend last time. Throws himself at it, so not the best trackcraft. Clear run pace to match virtually anything

Easter Cup semis saw the likes of Sidarian Blaze/Droopys Nidge and Laughil Duke/Gaytime Hawk running. Riverside Pat won a supporting race faster than them all!

Riverside Pat won't be leading much at all in the Derby, however he is the type of dog that can go very deep in the competition

If he gets that 3 bend right

Doesnt help when a slower dog in front blocking his way

Got it in one !

not the best trackcraft. Slower dogs blocking his path
On at prices after that 28.20
Top bet that !

On farloe blitz ballymac matt droopys ward (quietly ) best

Need something to grab the derby
By the bollox very average at the moment !
20/1 the field for second rd next week!

SPOT ON Fattie .... loads of class gone out already ....need a dream maker quick

Although not enjoying the Derby too much this year, still wrapped up in it - forgot about the FA Cup and Chester races

We need some stars to come through and one of the few that might is Eden The Kid? With plenty of well fancied dogs gone in the first round already, McNair's dog could have the scope to make 150/1 seem a laugh. Little to go off but he seems to have deceptive speed judged on his last trial and with first race throwing up fast times past 3 nights, odds could crumble

Newinn Yolo wins this.
GL ALL

Would settle for Yolo thanks Penzance, but he will have to do better than Scottish Derby

I got something right with Eden The Kid!

hope so penzance we need a bit of class to preside

What did you get right woody?
Ward will need to be at his best here.  The wWllis in two will give him no end of trouble if he secures the rail, and he could quite easily.

Pure class!  He can go all the way again.

phew.

I know Blaze got a hard heat but after that impressive win in the first round, how can he be the same price antepost now, 22/1?

Glad the Blitzs and Vikings been whittled down. Just the main two Farloe and Jack left now

How long does it take to publish halfway splits? Are they still clocking the dogs times?!

Fed up still no Hills specials. They took them down after Thursday and nothing since (not happy couldnt back Jaytee China)

Dont forget any free bets you may have with Hills if your dog eliminated first round. Thought about Nidge for my free fiver but think he may struggle to turn unscathed later rounds, so gone the whole hog with Farloe Blitz, wins over £400 now

Oh, not really thought of too much at the start really but Lister could have a couple of players in Teds Last and Boyneside Fun. Dont think he will be too chuffed with the former drawing his only other runner, Old Joe Golden, in the last heat Friday, though

How long does it take to publish halfway splits? Are they still clocking the dogs times?!


clock them yourself, don't be relying on others to do the work for you

I've not got the means but they have?

Jim is doing them himself, pick a point on the track and clock them to that point, the videos are all available

Seen the videos and Jim is providing a service, aint he? Just taking a long time to publish his findings, as i said

Well if you're too lazy to do them yourself stop moaning about how long it is taking to publish them

Thought it was an automatic halfway point for Derby. So, it's probably inaccurately hand-timed on varying nights and goings, not too much use then, anyway!

Hope quietly sneak in

Personal nigntmare 3rd round heat 5 with my top 3 antepost all in it, Farloe Blitz, Yolo and Eden The Kid, not to mention Boyneside Fun!

Shame so many good dogs in the same heat Woodie,  something got  to give.

that has to be the worst draw i think iv ever had.

make or break for the book.

p.s i have Eden the  kid and Boyneside fun backed myself.

7 losers left but cheesed off with the draw.

blitz +3.5k
gooch -9k
yolo +14k
eden +20k
loch +24k
fun +10k.

haha...if gooch qualifies ...i think il cry.

Daq showing updated odds on Oddschecker but market suspended on their site. How are you supposed to get a bet on?!

Are Hills extracting the urine? Worst price in the village 5/1 Farloe Blitz, with big as 8.4 on exchanges. You can get a couple of hundred on at 7/1 anyway

yep woody, massive % now, i reckon the win only must be close to 150% .  (nice for some)

put up 4k worth of bets at 102%  trying to work on me losers now,  dangerous game taking it so low, but just hope no further withdrawals for a few days atleast.

If you're on any of these are you greening up or hanging on?

Millwards Davy           1000/1  250/1    100/1****

Wotnofizz             500/1   250/1    100/1****

Here We Go             750/1   750/1    300/1

Jaytee Berlin             500/1   250/1     33/1****

Glenpadden Lord             250/1  150/1  66/1

Bubbly Beauty    250/1  250/1  100/1

Salonika    200/1  100/1    66/1

Leamaneigh Turbo    200/1   66/1     33/1

Tynwald Bish    150/1  100/1  50/1

Ibiza Rocks    150/1  80/1   66/1

Kentish Man    150/1  150/1  80/1

Badmoonrising    150/1  66/1    66/1

Go Ahead    125/1  100/1    50/1

Roxholme Kid    100/1  66/1      33/1

Swift Keith     100/1  50/1      33/1

Eden The Kid      100/1  20/1      12/1

Evanta Evita    100/1  66/1      50/1

Evanta Fantasy    100/1  66/1      40/1

Viking Jack 1    80/1    33/1    16/1

On Alert     80/1   80/1     25/1

Rio Quattro     80/1   50/1     25/1

Farloe Blitz    25/1    16/1     5/1F ****

Droopys Ward     33/1   14/1     12/1

Newinn Yolo     33/1  14/1        8/1

Quietly            33/1  25/1       14/1

Clares Wonder    50/1  40/1   25/1

Coolavanny ****     50/1  50/1    20/1

Lenson Sanchez    50/1  33/1    25/1

Roxholme Ted    50/1  50/1    25/1

Blonde Nipper     66/1  66/1    33/1

Gaytime Hawk    66/1  33/1     33/1

Paradise Maverik    66/1  33/1     33/1

Woody I think they just know a good thing when they see it!

Got plenty of those big prices and greater

Same as last year, going down for the quarters all being well. So, if you wanna meet up, just let me know

So, hoping the top 3 Blitz, Yolo and Eden go through in the heat of death Saturday. Also want Vegas and Keith

Single events Standard, Puppies, Marathon and Stayers races advertised, so should be a good night

I've got the sky+ ready

Are you asking me to meet up Wonders? You might not be too bad and gobby in real life!

Oh, want Quattro and Riverside too

Hi guys, can anyone shed some light for me please on a Mr Ron Mills?

He is a vet that was based down around Essex last I know

What you wanna know lanza? Hes a physio that a lot of the top trainers use,was involved with salad dodger in some capacity last year.

ok thanks pf, was thinking something along those lines but wasnt / still not exactly sure. Just been doing a little more info searching tho and seems to have part owned /worked (im told??) on a few dogs whom have won the derby including last year, snapper and kinda ready .  -not sure how accurate this claim is tho?

well yes mark wallis uses him and is one of the biggest advocates of his work

thanks pat,  was just told that.  Someone asked me for a bet on a dog and this person was mentioned and i not clued up on my successful dog physio's / vets.  Just wanted to check the profile before accepting / declining this bet.

#running for cover.

# still bigger than hills

Picked 3 out before the start on Greyhound Scene and number one choice Farloe Blitz has reached the decider. Other two, Ballymac Matt failed to shine but doing very well in Ireland now and sad about Sidarian Blaze

Is it going to be deja vu with Farloe Blitz in big race finals or will he finally nail one.

He's not going to get a better chance to get the monkey off his back.

blitz now 11/10 from 4/5 after Saturday ?

asked for 200 on at 11/10 betfair.... given 100 on the sportsbook.  wont even bother to try 888.

evens with paddies

still 4/5 with the big 3

surely hills will knock out farloe blitz to 6/4 or maybe 2/1 like they did last year with mind the net, likely to be ponies max tho

thought he was their biggest loser?  im preying he wins... wonder what the special irish to win it is looking like now?

Could be slightly misleading, but don't think the form of the final appearing that great. Okay, Farloe Blitz ran tremendous races in the Irish Derby but Tynwald Bish ran like a cripple Saturday, Making Paper been extremely disappointing, Millwards Davy not looking too good in the Kent Derby and Eden The Kid off the track

Eden The Kid off the track

he must have done that 28-15 in the paddock

woody been clubbing again?? pmsl

Only been having solo trials anyway. Not raced as far as I know

Eden The Kid was 2nd in the Select Stakes to Swift Hoffman

Tynwald Bish made the semi final of the Bar One Sprint (yes he is just a decent sprinter)

Farloe Blitz, well we all know what he has done since


I am really intrigued to know what you expected them to be doing ??

Doing? Current form of Bish, Davy and Paper leaves plenty to be desired

All 3 where big prices in the Wimbledon final showing what chance most thought they had. Bish had done nothing special ever in Ireland before Wimbledon and in fact reaching the Bar One Sprint semi final since is as good form as he has shown over here. The other 2, well nobody expected them to be in a Derby final did they ?
You need to stop creaming yourself over greyhound derbies and expecting every dog that runs well / makes a final to go around cleaning up every other competition.

And seen as you obviously where not taking much in but Bish ran a cracker in one of the best sprints ran around Shelbourne in years 2 weeks ago

Think you underestimate the achievement of reaching an English Derby final

jesus wept, how am I underestimating it? it is a great achievement but down the years both Derbies are littered with dogs that have made the final that have done little previous and little thereafter

Yeah, don't expect them to clean up competitions, just expect them to be performing better than they are now, as said

In other words I have done my brains following the English Derby form in every comp since at different tracks

Personally I think come 22:45 on English Derby Final night you may as well pretty much forget everything from the last 4-5 weeks as those dogs won't be back around there until the next year

I wonder if Woody will ever graduate from the PF school of hard knocks ?   

Woody pocket talking

The form of that final fine

Davy dog , only have to look at few trials
That pulled off to know what kind speed he as
It's just a shame the dogs in kennels