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Keith Singleton
14 Nov 12 23:40
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Serious rumours doing the rounds Sky TV won't be with us next year. This will have massive implications on our sport, more so open racing. Yet another nail looks to be heading our way Scared
Anybody else heard anything?

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By:
starship
When: 15 Nov 12 00:42
heard that the viewing figures were pretty poor and that is being classed as a minority sport
we need some one like barry hearn to glamourised the sport
he has done well with snooker and especially darts
By:
DONEMYLOT
When: 15 Nov 12 09:59
Find the thread on here from a couple of years ago about 'modernising' it, Bh was touted then and fk all has been done.

Whatever you think of the leadership, they are not the characters to do that.

I'm still unsure how many 'ordinary' people watch the Sky, as opposed to the same faces that watch RGPTV ie dog people, but it can never be good.

game is so far behind the times, needs to embrace tv not put it up as an excuse.
By:
Swayne
When: 15 Nov 12 10:00
we do need it to be glamourized and razzmatazz'd up for sure. Hearn has done great job at other sports but the bookies have stranglehold on the sport. Anyway imo the dogs cant be compared to darts/snooker etc...those sports have no cost base, you just hire the hall!
By:
DONEMYLOT
When: 15 Nov 12 10:06
fair enough, but look at darts. My word it has changed. There is the issue of the pi55ed crowd shouting during the players throw, but the players accept it (sort of) for the huge money they get.

It may be a case of having a star in the game - golf had Tiger and now Rory and they'll come from everywhere to watch it.

Guess with the dogs you need to make the animal more interactive with the crowd/kids. No point dragging them out, run, back in. they are just known as numbers. Give them sexy running names, let people stroke and meet the winners (dogs not trainers), big jackpots, less miserable bookmakers. It is not an experience unless out for a night on the tiles, unless you are my wife and friends at a graded Harlow meeting where everything was base level.

Lots and lots can be done, but they'll just moan and moan about this and that.....
By:
Winja
When: 15 Nov 12 14:08
sky are getting a full nights coverage for peanuts........they should sponsor and cover competitions and have sky bet stand decent wagers for the early prices.......they have the abilty and the commercial strength to employ any number of experts to mark their cards.........it will be a failure by Sky if they abandon greyhound racing instead of expanding the opportunities within the sport..........
By:
DONEMYLOT
When: 15 Nov 12 14:25
fair play, hence getting BH involved.

Fingers in many pies
By:
wondersobright
When: 15 Nov 12 15:09

Nov 15, 2012 -- 8:08AM, Winja wrote:


sky are getting a full nights coverage for peanuts........they should sponsor and cover competitions and have sky bet stand decent wagers for the early prices.......they have the abilty and the commercial strength to employ any number of experts to mark their cards.........it will be a failure by Sky if they abandon greyhound racing instead of expanding the opportunities within the sport..........


fair play winja, you managed to get sky bet and decent wagers in the same sentence Laugh fat chance of that happening

By:
DONEMYLOT
When: 15 Nov 12 15:10
Oh the bshit put out by the spokesmen is unbelievable. I also think that just putting up exchange prices up without the amount to be had is also very very wrong - RGPTV should do better than that. Putting up 2-1 board against 4.5 BF is bollx if the exchange is for 12 quid
By:
irishone
When: 15 Nov 12 15:16
we had all this in the rp from JK a couple of weeks ago.... it begs an answer to the old age question "Why let the facts get in the way of a good story ?"
By:
Addy_D
When: 15 Nov 12 16:39
DML the exchange price and whats available at that price changes god knows how many timer PER SECOND. any other way is impracticle unless you can suggest something? and on RPGTV cards, how often is there just 12 quid in the box, especially at 4.5 and prices lower? have to confess i dont watch it much other than the fridays at romford/any other time molly is on, as i dont have much interest in the graded but every time i see it there is money about for a bet and its rare you have to take unders?
By:
deansthemann
When: 15 Nov 12 17:30
the games been in a coma for years... might as well turn the life support off
By:
seanjames
When: 17 Nov 12 17:40
think sky would be "bigging" up next years dog derby coverage if they were renewing their coverage
By:
seanjames
When: 17 Nov 12 17:42
they can stuff sky sports forever if they pull the plug
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 17 Nov 12 18:07
Having to pay for football cost them a huge chunk
+ that **** f1 tv must of cost big time too
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 17 Nov 12 18:12
I'm with the guy below if dogs go sky sports will go I don't watch horse racing any more ! that much anyway
Euro sport not watched that 10 years! Nfl not for me and football I can take it Or leave it
By:
patrick starr
When: 17 Nov 12 18:23
same here,sky sports drop the dogs and i'm gone also
By:
clayfield1
When: 17 Nov 12 19:06
Me too, no dogs on no sky sports. will not be paying to watch football or f1
By:
the beard
When: 19 Nov 12 17:42
could not give a monkeys one way or the other-theres no variation in the presentation its the same week in week out
By:
Mustapha Bath
When: 19 Nov 12 18:03
I will be gutted if it stops but to be honest the people running the sport have ruined it, so many
False promises from Lipsey it's gone downhill ever since!!! The trade paper hasn't helped either.
Why should Sky show interest when the people running the game are totally clueless..
Totally unprofessional all round!!! Sad Sad
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 19 Nov 12 18:39
THE BEARD
u must hate RPGTV than
end of the day sky dogs is what it is I love it sky + it
and MOST OF ALL try and buy a winner it ain't going to win a ****g Grammy
Now is it ffs its about try to take the bookies money !!
By:
the beard
When: 19 Nov 12 18:58
used to go greyhound racing 5 nights a week-never been one for watching it on TV-would not go racing now if there was a track over the road.No characters left cant get a bet and the standard of dogs is pretty desperate-games gone for me and never to return
By:
sparrow
When: 19 Nov 12 19:06
I simply cannot understand how followers of the sport can say they are not bothered about the loss of Sky coverage. There is no doubt that it would be a disaster to lose the coverage.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 19 Nov 12 19:29
same as the beard the games up i fill so sorry for all the young trainers they are wasting there life at the end of the day they will finesh with no money
By:
patrick starr
When: 19 Nov 12 19:35
here we go,the same old sour fcuks sl4gging the game and the dogs,fcuk off out of it and leave the rest of us who do enjoy it to enjoy it in peace if its that bad.
By:
the beard
When: 19 Nov 12 19:37
sparrow-what does sky do for the sport-attendances on sky nights are non-existent-does sky encourage people to attend tracks-NO
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 19 Nov 12 19:42
when me and ken used to go up and down the country we could get 5k on easy try get a monkey on now you would be lucky
By:
the beard
When: 19 Nov 12 19:58
great days mick-all the characters it was the greatest game in the world
By:
sparrow
When: 19 Nov 12 19:59
the beard, we live in a very different world now. People prefer other sports these days but that does not mean that the game should be left to die. We need to publicise the sport and Sky does the job well. I have been a fan since the early 60s and those days are gone but the sport can survive.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 19 Nov 12 20:06
the beard you still in lake district hows tommy the roofer getting on
By:
the beard
When: 19 Nov 12 20:10
still up north-not spoke to him for a good while
By:
DONEMYLOT
When: 20 Nov 12 08:11
Bf has ruined a lot of the atmosphere at the track. No question. Looks great on Sky with restaurants filled up at Rommers et al, but Harlow on a wet midweek simply isn't worth the bother.

As for the Sky coverage, again the important beings have missed such a trick, could easily exploit big TV jackpots etc, but it is, as the beard says, exactly the same every week. Where is the inspiration to get new viewers? There is nothing so you are left with the same people watching as do RPGTV and are on here.

There is potential but the authorities are so far behind where they need to be at present.

And I love the game
By:
safari guide
When: 20 Nov 12 13:03
I would have to agree with Patrick Starr in that many of the old school on here appear so bitterly depressing about greyhound racing they would be better off taking up fishing so they could have something different to moan about.

Characters are around in every walk of life and from my experience those of the group involved in gambling are unable to produce a tax code but possess a level of charm which makes amusing company.  I am pretty sure their families are immune to their charm though having suffered the highs and lows of a gamblers existence and accordingly the future of the greyhound industry does not stand or fall because of the presence or absence of “characters”.

I would agree with various points in the replies above though concerning the presentation of the industry and the potential to take it to a higher level.
By:
DroopysGregKinkysNap
When: 20 Nov 12 14:21
Bring the sport up to date, Make all data and live video and recordings available just like Horse Racing.Hang on we cant do that can we cos the GBGB sold the rights to the bookies for pennies!!

Free the grip of the sport from the bookies or stop moaning.

Only way you do that is stand up as owners and trainers etc etc. If the bookies pull bags money, who gives a toss, there are hundreds of sky channels available to put racing on and it costs two bob (Premier sports, Sports Live Tonight etc etc)

Unless people are going to out muppets thats destroy the sport nothing will change, and ffs dont think GOBATA will do eff all for the majority, all they did was look after "the elite" who strangely formed their committee when it started.

When David Miles and I and a few otehrs got the monmore protest going, Haynes sold us down the river.

Simples, stand up or shut up.
By:
DONEMYLOT
When: 20 Nov 12 14:42
Do you remember the thread from last year, Kinky? basically the same ol' stuff again
By:
yorky
When: 20 Nov 12 14:53
a lot of people i know watch it on sky no inclination to go to tracks, heres whats better to spend money on, big advertising truck in local town centre a few retired dogs, guy in big dog costume, dolly birds giving out free tickets to local track,advertise on big screen at pictures ,imagine impact of seeing action up there ,even invest in 3d trailer, leave free tickets in foyer ,sky waste of time imho
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 20 Nov 12 21:52
CROWN GREEN BOWLING WAS STILL ALIVE  AND KICKING WHEN IT HAD T V COVERAGE. THOSE IN CHARGE AND THEM

IN THE GAME LET THE GAME DOWN WITH NO PLANS AND T V DISSAPEARED AND SO ARE THE GREENS AND COMPETITIONS ,

T V IS A VERY VERY VERY BIG ADVERTISEING PLATFORM
By:
DroopysGregKinkysNap
When: 21 Nov 12 01:24
Blah blah blah

Until you wrestle the control from the bookmakers you cannot change a thing. All you are doing is scrapping over crumbs OR helping yourself and screwing everyone else.

GOBATA could have made a difference if its SOLE aim was in going against the Heebeeheebees and the bookies and organising owners, trainers to take action in exchange for more money and rights for them using their dogs and just take take taking. They could have got themselves on the top table with a stake in the sport and negotiated data and media rights back to the right side of the table.

Its ok though as the "elite" trainers are alright... Wonder why the initial committee was loaded with these elite trainers? Stumped me.

Just refer back to this, until people stand up and say UP YOUR DIRTBOX to the bookies... the sport is fecked.

All the Barry Hearn, New Bets, Streaming Live, Dolly bird advertising has been discussed before, but when the books and promoters just bend you over and hold all the aces... it cant happen.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 26 Nov 12 13:05
The word is Sky coverage is looking bad for next year Sad.

The good news is it means i'll probably be going racing more often Happy
By:
woodmanchester
When: 27 Nov 12 09:31
This was a text ping-pong between my mate i about the plight of the sport.

Mate: When you said yesterday about getting out more often if there is no Sky coverage then i can see lots of competitions disappearing as who will sponsor them?

Game is on its knees, how long before the GRA sell off Vue, Hall Green, Barr and Wimbledon?
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