ryder cup 2021

Arrogant and smug

At least the Americans are classy enough to gob off at least

The Europeans have always had this fake "gentlemens" tag when they are anything but

I'd hate losing to them if I was an American

Rory who hasn't won a major in about 10 years is called the "big thing"

Arrogance its not even that its delusional

You make a lot of sense sometimes sontaran

5 picks for poulter thats foooking shocking,
if the ponces game doesnt come next years see him retiring early,he,s not a journeymen tour player if he cant compete in slams early bath

ponce out 1st tomorrow

postmen late delivery out last,

1 eagle and no birdies in 26 holes of 4 balls is shocking for the ponce

Imagine Montgomerie trying to get down one of those banks. They would need a crane.

Get the feeling that after a promising session this might be about to swing away from the Euros here. Looked like they could get 3-1 might do well to get 2-2

hovland would be smiling if he saw a car driving over a cliff

its like pernament

lowery

Get in Shane !! Great reaction.

Top lad, Shane.

Us just had to draw this session for a victory lap tomorrow

Absolutely no chance Europe win 9.5 points tomorrow

The cup has become all about course set up and venue these days. The next 20 years will not see any away wins IMO

4
DJ*

3.5
Rahm*

3 Schauffele*, Garcia*, Morikawa*

2.5
Cantlay*

1.5
Thomas, Hatton, Scheffler*, DeChambeau*

1
Spieth, Berger, Koepka, Finau, English, Lowry

0.5
Hovland, Fleetwood

0
Wiesberger, Fitzpatrick, Westwood, Casey, McIlroy, Poulter

* denotes unbeaten

Not sure there's any setup that will stop the Yanks in two years time. Not a lot of top young Euros coming through other than Viktor and the core of that US team can go on for years and if anything only get better. I think the US are in for 3-4 in a row.

Disagree.. half the US team only good when playing in an airfield to hit it anywhere. Would love to see it played at Walton Heath or Sunningdale Old, the US would be 5/1 pokes

Scottie, Xander, DJ, Finau, Brooks all out the game if need to be a shot maker. They have Colin who is a class act, Bryson can adapt…. JT can’t flight it in the wind…. Maybe somewhere like Carnoustie in November is our best shout….

I honestly think the difference in quality overcomes any home advantage, no matter where they play. A Yank who wasn't even in with a sniff of making the team just took a quick trip to Wentworth and won the Euro tour's flagship event. It is a massive gulf in class.

But Billy is better than 4 of the captains picks. They have a strong team on the right course. But this gaff whilst looking amazing is a carzy of a course for Ryder Cup. It’s near impossible to miss fairways, greens huge and rough non existent. Which makes Poulter an even more curious pick….

Xander vs. Rory
Cantlay vs. Lowry
Scheffler vs. Rahm
Bryson vs. Sergio
Morikawa vs. Hovland
DJ vs. Casey
Brooks vs. Wiesberger
Finau vs. Poulter
JT vs. Hatton
English vs. Westwood
Spieth vs. Fleetwood
Berger vs. Fitz

I don't think those are very good match-ups from a EUR point of view.

I just don't see how they are going to get any more than 6 points absolute max out of them & they need err 9 to DRAW & Retain the cup.


LOTM

In fact the betting is just in & it shows the USA are fav in 11 out of those 12 match-ups!

LOTM

Deary me now we have excuses that the Europeans can’t play on an American course complete tripe
It’s a golf course get out and try and score well
If you are not capable that means there’s a weakness in your game

The only part of a golf course that can have an impact ( often too much) on how an individual player might score
compared to another is the green
Shouldn’t be too difficult or tricked up, it can become a farce

* an unfair impact

rory should be out last.

rory should be on the lash,chocolate tea pot

Harrington made some strange choices regarding pairings. But McIlroy, Fleetwood, Hatton,Casey, Westwood, Fitzpatrick, Poulter were an embarrassment.

I thought the Yanks would win but it would be fairly close. This mob were utterly useless.

Ryder Cup in Rome looks tailor-made for the Yanks, and the European youngsters coming through are just not good enough.

Good to see we have our top man leading the charge. I think last night there was an hours coverage without showing him playing a single shot. On this evidence you would be hoping he doesn't qualify again.

Even Rahm mixed the very bad with the very good. Didn't see him hitting many fairways.

sky still trying to sell it as a great sporting occasion ... for that you need 2 sides to compete to a grandstand finish & yet its been an embarrassment from session 1

Don't understand any excuses about the course. Wasn't the chip and putt set-up supposed to favour the USA? Now when a course is a bit more difficult it also favours the USA?

What's Europe's chances in today's singles, only four of the 12 I can see them taking anything, unless a minor miracle has happened overnight. Rahm, Hovland, Garcia and possibly Lowry and a few of those are dodgy also.

Good news. All matches are currently all square.

hope the EUROPEANS put up a good fight today or we could have hour,s of play with dead rubbers and a pished up crowd impatient to start celebrating,could get embarrassing for everyone

Shame its been such a one sided affair as many predicted.

2 fun bets for interest for me:

Lay Speith
Lay Scheffler

GL !!

Spieth hasn't been good all week, if not for him the US would have had 2 extra points in my opinion

But I'm going 9-3 to the Yanks

NERVES

That was the German-part of Schauffele.

If Rory keeps his ish together Europe might win the first four matches, but they´ll very likely lose the last eight.

FATMAN foooked without garcia carrying him

This could damage Rahm for a good while if he loses to Scottie. Ffs, we would beat him with an arm tied behind our back, the worst player to represent USA since Ben Curtis…

Morikawa making a total pig's ear of the 1st. Looks as if he needs someone to hold his hand.

ponce shot absolutely foooking shocking

paddy wants a re rack and sent the prima dona,s out last

amigo,s playing like theyve never seen a golf club or golf course in their life,staggering

paddy water thats another foooking shocker playing safe aqua for the fat controller

the fat controller heading for the DOG LICENCE

7 AND 6

Not a problem, Shane walks on water (it least in the eyes of the Sky crew)

COULDNT EVEN WALK DOWN A HILL THE OTHER DAY

if this is what happens in usa on a uk type of course and away wins hard toget for either side ,dont really see why players playing on us tour should be rewarded make them compete on european tour to qualify

Hovland on fire. Where was this for the last two days?

The old brigade have been very disappointing in the first 2 days. Poulter, Westwood, McIlroy, Casey. Too late now to make a recovery and today the 2 Spaniards are off. Far too many balls in the horrible grassy banks and bunkers.

rahms been bog average all week garcia carried him in 2 matches and been dogshoite today

hovland getting plaudits of sky all week but missed have missed 200 feet of putts from 10 ft and in

paddy should have played the solheim cup team

americans got 20/30 kids to back this lot up,we have next to nothing,at least paddy wont get another go

mince  on the dance floor after the party fo RM

Europe have some shocking players

Poulter, Garcia, Casey

Relying on that lot ffs

mckin spends s hrs telling us the stats say theres nothing in the putting, cream cake laura comes on to tell us the putting all weeks the difference theyve hold them we havnt

at least one of them will be right ,
not that they,ll bother telling us

think ive seen a dozen of the worst shots ive ever seen on a golf course in 50 yrs in last 3 hrs from europe
WTF are they trying to do

Mcilroy crying???  no wonder he's not winning anything, he has a soft centre. Can you imagine tiger woods doing that

the evidence is in front of everyone ... they have driven better; approach shots have been closer; putts dropped & fewer mistakes
some of our players have been very ordinary for supposed top golfers ... and yet the commentators keep bulling them up some of them need removing from the tv roster

Crying ffs

No doubt the media will call it an act of strength ffs, fact is your a bunch of losers who have just had your a*ses handed to you, man up and face facts ffs

Its pathetic nowadays it really is

There's never anything bad said at all, never any criticism ffs

Yet the flip side is they never report anything positive in the news, so it means society is fooked but your loser sporting "heroes" are fantastic win or lose

Feck off

Sep 24, 2021 -- 4:22PM, bobweenit wrote:

Spare a thought for Justin, how did he not get a pick in this rabble? Paddy really is cluelss tbf as a captain

This.

Hurrah my stream froze just as the vomit inducing award is being handed out

Rose would have fitted in well in this team. No form, mediocre Ryder Cup record, won next to nothing in the last 5 years. Even journeyman plodder Wiesberger managed to qualify by right

The media will try and gloss it over

At least they tried and they cried rivers as they went down to a record defeat...

Its been worse than the scoreline as well

14-6 really doesn't do the yanks justice, they've absolutely butchered them all week and have had to donate the Europeans some points in my opinion

a lot of the US players are only in their 20s & look a game apart from our best ... could be awhile before we get the cup back even with home advantage next time

sky coverage now predominantly showing US players shots, even on occasions Europeans hit it close. Horrendous coverage

Next Euro captain ? Westwood ?
Next US captain ? Woods ?

monnnnnnnnnnn tyrell ffs

Why the hell have BF suspended the remaining match markets? They play on.

Still in play with me

this lot would've lost the Solheim Cup..our girls should've played this week..would've put up a better performance

the points system to gain automatic selection is flawed..too much dead wood

i'd have the captain have 12 picks with some sort of committee to disallow any egregious favouritism

this was a very poor team

Sep 26, 2021 -- 3:45PM, GoBallistic wrote:

Next Euro captain ? Westwood ?Next US captain ? Woods ?

You'd like to give Woods and Mickelson the captaincy at home if you can I think. Tiger in particular captained the USA away in Pres cup so I think a home Ryder Cup for him definitely on the cards. Zach Johnson has to be high on the list for a captaincy soon.

Never have a group of Americans been so over hyped.. get a grip ffs.. some of them are like 4 handicappers with swings to match. Scheffler, Berger, Spieth… Bryson, Finau, it’s embarrassing that Europe have lost to such poor players..

Got to think Furyk will get the gig at some point.

Furyk was captain in Paris.

so he was

Fitz deserves a kicking in the team room for handing them the points record on 18.

Don´t need hate on Fitzpatrick. We need him at his best, when the team fights off relegation against the South Korean Girls. This how this works, right?

Sep 26, 2021 -- 4:07PM, now wheres that switch!!! wrote:

Never have a group of Americans been so over hyped.. get a grip ffs.. some of them are like 4 handicappers with swings to match. Scheffler, Berger, Spieth… Bryson, Finau, it’s embarrassing that Europe have lost to such poor players..

Some of those names have won majors.  USA far too strong for an ordinary European team.

Sky looking pathetic trying to push blame onto anyone and everyone but especially Harrington. Its a sport, there are winners and losers get over it. Harrington could not have changed the result fact, no matter what we all think the US were better in every department, every one of there players were in form plus had a massive fan backing.

They may well have won majors.. but that doesn’t mean what it used to with the select fields and entry requirements. Berger wouldn’t get in some county teams, Bryson will have his enforced sabbatical soon enough. Spieth… Is just an amusing golfer to watch, like watching an episode of dads army. As for Scottie, will be the only time he makes the team. What is depressing is just how bad the European team was after the qualification period..

19-9 and that was flattering Europe

Sep 26, 2021 -- 5:24PM, cool_hand_luke wrote:

Sky looking pathetic trying to push blame onto anyone and everyone but especially Harrington. Its a sport, there are winners and losers get over it. Harrington could not have changed the result fact, no matter what we all think the US were better in every department, every one of there players were in form plus had a massive fan backing.

Its hilarious

The whole captain thing is utter b0llocks

Harrington had utter c*ap, you can put them into any order you like they winning jack this cup

stratagem, u r spot on........the most unimportant person in the history of sport is the ryder cup captain.

jeez heard the rory rooster fffffffffffffffffffffff h

I think the first time we saw some passion from the Europeans was like the 4th session. This team felt pretty dead inside from the start to be honest like they were just there for the inevitable beatdown.

that was the worst coverage of a tournament I  have ever seen from sky

You don't need to look back too far to see equally skilled and talented U.S. squads who never ever looked like doing this.  It just shows you how some can be team players and some can't.  This is a fabulous victory and it should not go unremarked because the opponents looked poor or "didn't deliver".  19-9 is a humiliation!  I'm quite glad actually.  Europe and Ireland have gotten far too far up their own rsses recently.  As for McIlroy "weeping"?  What a load of manure.

https://betting.betfair.com/golf/the-punter/ryder-cup-2021-tips-and-betting-preview-ignore-the-rankings-and-back-europe-yet-again-200921-167.html

Embarrassing...

Rorys meltdown all the harder to take with the whiny American accent

Th captain is important imo , but if u have a shower of shi t like that simpleton Casey and that go000fy 12 year old Mugpatrick in your outfit there is only so much a mug like paddy can do

Picking Lowry and Poulter was a Paddy mistake

when Wee Mac was being interviewed by her that changes her name every week

I honestly thought that while he was on course some family bereavement had occurred that he'd only been apprised of and thought ..Henni ur a bit out of order pushing this..and then it was sweet FA

Bob, After Rahm and Sergio, Lowry was the only one who showed a pair of b alls.

europe has outperformed itself in the last 30 years & beyond ... probably a good thing for the competition that the usa have won although it would have been better if it was a lot closer. the US look likely to have a strong lineup for quite a while so we need europe to change things which i don't think we have for a long time & lets hope some young uns come along with the mental strength and the game to develop quickly into seasoned pros who can win on  the european tour and the uspga ... its (*the RC) still a team competition & the strength for us has always been that team spirit to overcome on paper better quality individuals of the US ... i personally think we lacked that team ethos this time which doesn't distract from the fact we were outplayed comprehensively

Aye your probably right, Poulter was awful the first 2 days. Lowry seemed to genuinely care as well we will give him a break. Still find it hard that Rosey was left out with his experience and was in some form after playing very well at Wentworth.

I think they lacked experience the team tbh, i know Westwood and polter have lots in the Ryder just past it imo to inspire or produce consistently. And we know Mcmug aint a leader of men. Rose got a bit about him tbf.

Players like chokeburger fitz casey just aint got the minerals for away turf. I wasn't sure Serge should have got a pick but he proved me wrong did v well.

Post match presser worth a quick look, all sat on sto00ls like naughty scholboys. There seems some banter regarding Tommy. Can imagime he is the type to put hos c0ck between his legs and walk around pretenting to be a bird in the locker rooms. Whatever he did the whole team showed more enthusiasm for that than they did on course.

The only reason Europe doesn't get beaten more often is the usual infighting in the Yank side.

No friction this time and the battering was duly administered. The European side were embarrassing and when the'old brigade' retire from Ryder Cup, we don't have any replacements.

The course in Rome will suit the Yanks and if they band together again, Europe will get walloped again.