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06 Aug 19 15:03
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These Playoffs are now a three-event-race to the finishing line.....

First up is...…. (((((((THE NORTHERN TRUST)))))))

Built on a landfill.....and yes, it's a dump!, Liberty National GC hosts a limited field event of 125 of the Top ranked players (122 this week, with 3 no-shows - Sam Burns, Paul Casey & Henrik Stenson).
The cut line will fall at Top 70 and ties... (and there will be no MDF on Saturday - as last week was the last MDF on the PGA TOUR since they are removing this rule for the upcoming season).

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By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 06 Aug 19 15:17
Previously it was four events in the Playoffs - TPC Boston will jump back into the mix next year.

LIBERTY NATIONAL is a par 71 at almost 7,400 yds.
Host to the 2009 Barclays - it was the 8th hardest course on TOUR that season - it returned in 2013 and played as the 22nd hardest course (after some course modifications and was aided by soft conditions until the weekend. Some good golfing weather is on tap this week.
.....with 10 water hazards, 90 bunkers, and heavily undulating (and fast 12.5+ on the stimp) bent grass greens (kentucky bluegrass rough).
Also some golfers saw this course in action during the 2017 Presidents Cup incl Phil Mickelson: "I love this golf course. I think it’s very well done, and without the rough, it plays...I would equate it to like Augusta National."
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 06 Aug 19 15:25
RAFA Cabrera Bello is also out of this week's Northern Trust - as he awaits the birth of his "baby princess". There are no alternates to take his place this week since it's a FedEx Cup Playoffs event - he's 59th in the FEC Standings - only the Top 70 will play next week at the BMW Championship.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 06 Aug 19 15:33
THEY BET...

Brooks Koepka 8
Rory McIlroy 11
Jon Rahm 16
Dustin Johnson 16
Justin Thomas 20
Justin Rose 22
Patrick Cantlay 25
Rickie Fowler 25
Webb Simpson 25
Tommy Fleetwood 25
Tiger Woods 28
Xander Schauffele 33
40's bar
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Aug 19 15:27
PRESIDENTS CUP
USA Team vs International Team.....leading Pints scorers... Tongue Out

Dustin Johnson 4.5 Louis Oosthuizen 2.5
Jordan Spieth 3.5 Branden Grace 2
Justin Thomas 3.5 Jason Day 1.5
Patrick Reed 3.5 Anirban Lahiri 1.5
Phil Mickelson 3.5 Hideki Matsuyama 1.5
Rickie Fowler 3.5 Si-woo Kim 1
Kevin Kisner 3 Marc Leishman 1
Brooks Koepka 2 Charl Schwartzel 1
Daniel Berger 2 Adam Scott 1
Matt Kuchar 2 Jhonattan Vegas 1
Kevin Chappell 1.5 Adam Hadwin 0.5
Charley Hoffman 1 Emiliano Grillo 0
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Aug 19 17:35
TIGER turns his attention toward a familiar Liberty National - Woods has nothing but good vibes at this week's venue - He's bettered the field scoring average in all 8 rounds played at Liberty National. In fact, his worst round in that regard was a 2-under 69 during R2 of the 2013 Barclays which "only" beat the field average by 1.7 shots on the day.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Aug 19 17:42
Adam Scott sits at 21st in the FedEx Cup race ahead of the Northern Trust - had finished T10 in six of his 13 starts prior to a MC at The OPEN and T40 at the WGC-FedEx St.Jude.

The Aussie returns to a familiar venue... at the 2013 Barclays Adam Scott came from six off the pace on Sunday to heist the trophy with rounds of 69-66-72-66=273 (-11).
That went in the books as his 10th PGA TOUR win and he arrives with three more trophies added to his case, but none since the 2016 WGC-Cadillac C/ship.
It's the longest winless drought of his career but with two runner-up finishes on the season, he's been close.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 11 Aug 19 23:14
https://www.pgatour.com/fedexcup/projected-standings.html

PADDY REED (wins), Abraham Ancer & Harold Varner 111 - the BIG winners so far in the rankings race for T30 to East Lake. Devil
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 11 Aug 19 23:18
ADAM SCOTT (maybe up to 14th in the FedEx rankings), Sneds & Rambo moving in the right direction too.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Aug 19 12:42
The Top 70 will play this week at the (((((BMW CHAMPIONSHIP)))))
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Aug 19 12:53
We’re off to MEDINAH just 40km west of Chicago (just 69 players incl Tiger - Stenson’s gone home until March 2020).
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Aug 19 12:56
MEDINAH’s a long motherfcuker thru the trees
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Aug 19 13:02
No NA this week either (#55 on the FedEx) - plagued with various injuries all year
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Aug 19 13:05
RORY RAMBO or SCOTT ?
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Aug 19 16:44
Medinah hosted FIVE Majors over the years - most recent were the 1999 & 2006 PGA Championships (both won by Tiger in his prime).
Also hosted the 2012 Ryder Cup (Europe won 14.5/ 13.5).
The Country Club's Course #3 plays host this week - the course may be soaked in the lead-up with plenty of rain in the early-week forecast and gradually get harder as the course firms up.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 14 Aug 19 00:46
No dump track this week Devil
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 14 Aug 19 00:49
IF HE PLAYS this week...

Tiger Woods: "I’m not going to hit that many drivers because it won’t really allow me to. Most of the holes are doglegged. Obviously I’d have to take driver up over the top of these tall trees, and it doesn’t make any sense. Yeah, I’m going to use it a few times, definitely.
But overall, just like it was back in ’99, I hit just a bunch of 2 irons and a bunch of 3 woods here. Just because that’s the way the golf course allowed you to play. You play to a lot of the corners and obviously fire from there. If you try to take on a lot of the corners or shape the ball around the corner, yeah, you can, but it’s not always the easiest thing to do."
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Aug 19 16:45
Major Winner Shane LOWRY must finish solo 29th if he's to make the T30 in the FedEx Cup standings to qualify for next week's Tour Championship Finals in EAST LAKE, Atlanta.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Aug 19 16:49
dukeofpuke • August 14, 2019 4:11 PM BST
BMW Championship
Justin Thomas 14-1 4pts ew
Brooks Koepka 17-2 4pts enhanced win only
Patrick Cantlay 22-1 2.5pts ew
Jason Kokrak 60-1 1pt ew
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Aug 19 18:56
Paul Casey 50/1 skipped last week to spend time with his family, and despite missing the cut here in 2006, Paul has the right type of game for Medinah.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Aug 19 19:13
Top 30 bubble will get plenty of talk this week at BMW, but keep in mind per Tour projections the top 23 are already a lock for East Lake.
Means we essentially have 46 guys playing for 7 tickets to Atlanta.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Aug 19 20:20
Three tied at the top at -6...Justin Thomas / Jim Furyk / Adam Scott
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Aug 19 23:54
BMW Championship betting preview and tips from Ben Coley
Recommended bets
3pts e.w. Justin Thomas at 16/1 (1/5 1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
1pt e.w. Tony Finau at 40/1 (1/5 1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
1pt e.w. Joel Dahmen to lead after R1 at 150/1 (1/4 1,2,3,4,5)


…..there's a good chance that we get a winner from the very front of the market after a slightly surprising one-two in New Jersey, but my pick of them is in fact Justin Thomas.
This will be the third time I've sided with Thomas in three starts since The Open Championship, but perseverance may at last pay off here as he looks primed to close out the season in style.
Quite simply, I believe Thomas has finished as far down the leaderboard as he could have lately, and with finishes of 9-11-12-12 since the Travelers Championship that means he's achingly close to winning for the first time in a year.
Last week at Liberty National, he made an encouraging start - despite, you might say, being an onlooker as Bryson DeChambeau made headlines for slow play - and there were more positive signs as he made a Sunday move to finish just outside the top 10.
Crucially, not only did he drive it better than he had been, but Thomas maintained the outstanding levels with his approach play that have made him such an eye-catcher throughout the summer.
At a course where quality iron players populated major leaderboards in 1999 and 2006, the fact that Thomas has been inside the top-five in strokes-gained: approach on each of his last three Stateside starts is hugely significant and it's surely a matter of time before he takes full advantage.
"I feel like I'm in a great spot," Thomas told reporters at Liberty National. "I feel like I'm really close to winning some more tournaments."
Rewind to last February, and he'd produced back-to-back top-five performances with his irons without reward, then stepped up a level to win the Honda Classic. The previous year, his 50/1 success in the PGA Championship - on a long, classical, tree-lined course not dissimilar to this one - came after he'd found his long-game in the previous week's WGC-Bridgestone Invitational.
With the incentive of having won in every season since his 2014 breakthrough, and the knowledge that he's close, expect Thomas to be right in the thick of things from the off here and perhaps made a late bid for what would be a second FedEx Cup triumph.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Aug 19 23:55
.....my final selection is in the first-round leader market where Joel Dahmen shouldn't be almost the outsider of the lot at 150/1.
Dahmen isn't particularly long off the tee and I find it hard to envisage him contending here, but he is a habitual fast starter whose breakthrough effort on the PGA Tour came when runner-up in Illinois at the John Deere Classic.
His only other runner-up finish came at Quail Hollow this year, the tough, long, championship course referenced in the case for Thomas, and on both occasions he was bang there from the off.
In total, Dahmen has three first-round leads this season and four in 70-odd PGA Tour starts, and while this is elite company it's also a very small field made up of just 69 players.
He's opened with rounds of 65 and 67 since the end of major season, and with his fast starts having come in bursts looks worth a speculative bet to make the most of this free roll in what's likely to be his final start of the season.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Aug 19 23:59
There is no 36-hole cut at the BMW
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 19 Aug 19 22:40
AND SO we're down to the end of season T30 FINAL...at East Lake, Georgia.

The $15M first place prize for the ((((((TOUR CHAMPIONSHIP)))))) this week is more than Greg Norman's official on course earnings for his entire PGA Tour career ($14.5M).

Winning FedEx cup would put you 4th on CAREER LPGA Money List behind Annika, Webb and Kerr, who have played over 400 tournaments.

Payouts this week (!):
1: $15M
2: 5M
3: 4M
4: 3M
5: 2.5M
6: 1.9M
7: 1.3M
8: 1.1M
9: 950K

10: 830K
11. 750K
12. 705K
13. 660K
14. 620K
15. 595K
16. 570K
17. 550K
18. 535K
19. 520K
20. 505K

21. 490K
22. 478K
23: 466K
24: 456K
25: 445K
26: 435K
27. 425K
28: 415K
29: 405K
30: 395K
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 19 Aug 19 22:47
The Top 30 in the FedEx Cup standings.
Top 10 in order: Justin Thomas, Patrick Cantlay, Brooks Koepka, Patrick Reed, Rory McIlroy, Jon Rahm, Matt Kuchar, Xander Schauffele, Webb Simpson, Abraham Ancer.
No Tiger, Spieth, Lowry, Molinari, Day or Mickelson.


A new format. The winner will automatically be crowned the FedEx Cup champion too.
Rather than a points reset, the No. 1 seed in the standings (Justin Thomas) will start the TOUR Championship at -10.
No. 2 seed (Patrick Cantlay) starts at -8,
No. 3 seed (Brooks Koepka) at -7 and so on with the 26-30 seeds starting at even par.



Last 5 winners of the Tour Championship
2018 (-11, 269) Tiger Woods – 80th PGA TOUR win
2017 (-12, 268) Xander Schauffele – 2nd PGA TOUR win
2016 (-12, 268) Rory McIlroy – 13th PGA TOUR win
2015 (-9, 271) Jordan Spieth – 6th PGA TOUR win
2014 (-11, 269) Billy Horschel – 3rd PGA TOUR win
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 19 Aug 19 23:23
-10 — Justin Thomas
-8 — Patrick Cantlay
-7 — Brooks Koepka
-6 — Patrick Reed
-5 — Rory McIlroy
-4 — Jon Rahm, Matt Kuchar, Xander Schauffele, Webb Simpson, Abraham Ancer
-3 — Gary Woodland, Tony Finau, Adam Scott, Dustin Johnson, Hideki Matsuyama
-2 — Paul Casey, Justin Rose, Brandt Snedeker, Rickie Fowler, Kevin Kisner
-1 — Marc Leishman, Tommy Fleetwood, Corey Conners, Sungjae Im, Chez Reavie
Even — Bryson DeChambeau, Louis Oosthuizen, Charles Howell III, Lucas Glover, Jason Kokrak

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-tour-championships-new-format Devil
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 19 Aug 19 23:32
Players seeded 26-30 will begin 10 shots behind Justin Thomas.
There have been 432 regular PGA Tour stroke play events this decade. Only 2 wins have come from 10+ shots back after 18 holes. Not apples-to-apples, but gives you an idea of the uphill climb.
By:
Quincy
When: 20 Aug 19 14:34
I'm totally confused. Does the winner of the Tour Championship automatically win the Fedex Cup.  For example, what if no. 30 wins, and Justin Thomas is second.  Seems crackers to me.
By:
Super Hans
When: 20 Aug 19 15:42
Yes, I like it. Number 30 would need to be at least 10 shots better than JT to achieve that.
They would also to beat all the others at the top of the handicap by multiple shots.
410 for Glover is the shortest price for those playing off scratch. Which gives you an idea of the chances of it happening.
By:
Super Hans
When: 20 Aug 19 15:44
Tell a lie. Oostys about 350Grin
By:
Total Bosman
When: 20 Aug 19 17:55
Quincy - yes, basically the Tour Championship and the Fedex Cup are now merged into one.  I know some won't like it but it makes perfect sense.  Given that the Fedex is a year-long competition the winner of it has always felt like a more legitimate "tour champion" than the winner of a one-off Tour Championship and so having two guys winning two prizes never made much sense.

The handicap won't go done well with the purists but it is (or ought to be) calculated to reflect the probability each guy had to win the Fedex in previous years - for example in previous years number 30 would need to not only win the Tour Championship but then have all the Fedex leaders finish very far down the board to win the Fedex, so it was always very, very unlikely and a handicap of 10 shots is meant to reflect that. 

This way it's an easier representation of what each guy needs to do rather than having commentators constantly go through permutations ("player a needs to win and have b and c finish in positions y and z").  At least now, in some sense, the players all have their fate in their own hands.  I like it.
By:
drive for show putt for dough
When: 20 Aug 19 23:56
Think the outsiders have more chance than they are getting credit for 10 shots over 72 holes is definitely doable. It will obviously depend on how the front few do but could definitely be done.

Look at last week, I know it was soft but Medinah is meant to be a tough track and the gap was 9 shots to 5th. The difference between 1st and 31st was 18 shots. These guys are good and quite possible someone tears it up.
By:
therhino
When: 21 Aug 19 01:53
Only one guy has ever come from way down at East Lake to win the FedEx, Haas in 2011. Under the new system, he wouldn't have come close. The players at the bottom have feck all chance if history is a guide. This is all at the want of FedEx who want to be the star, in fairness they are the ones putting up the cash.

The great moment we had last year with Tiger would mot have happened either under this new system. Firmly against, contrived nonsense is what we have this week and betting aside, I hope JT shoots a 63 on Thursday and reduces the event to nothing to inspire a rethink.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 21 Aug 19 10:42
(((((EAST LAKE)))))

Btw Justin Thomas has made the most birdies/eagles in the last three years at East Lake (of any player here this week).
A two shot lead and a $15,000,000 MILLION target Devil
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 21 Aug 19 10:46
Catch Me ifyoucan • August 19, 2019 11:32 PM BST
Players seeded 26-30 will begin 10 shots behind Justin Thomas.
There have been 432 regular PGA Tour stroke play events this decade. Only 2 wins have come from 10+ shots back after 18 holes. Not apples-to-apples, but gives you an idea of the uphill climb.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 21 Aug 19 10:56
The lowest 72-hole score in a Tour Championship at East Lake is 257 (-23 Tiger 2007) and that’s six shots better than anyone else all-time.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 21 Aug 19 11:03
So let’s say a target of -17, and add Justin’s-10 start = TARGET minus -27 (over 4 days).
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 21 Aug 19 11:10
It could mean that the -4 boys (Rambo, Kuch, etc) need to equal Tigers ‘record score’ to possibly win Crazy
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