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By:
sundogmonkey
When: 30 Jul 18 14:31
WGC Bridgestone Invitational Picks.

Here is my preview and picks for this weeks WGC Bridgestone Invitational.

http://sundogsgolfworld.com/sundogs-latest-golf-tips/2018/07/30/wgc-bridgestone-invitational/
By:
JML
When: 30 Jul 18 15:59
What's the point of this thread especially now that you only post links to your site?


I think that anyone intrested in your tips will know how to find them.

You advertise monday morning prices,prices that bookmakers are very wary about and it will only take one medium size bet for them to change.

So we have prices that only one or two will be able to get and yet you're still showing a loss for this year.
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 08:54
Barracuda Championship

Here is my preview for the Barracuda Championship.

http://sundogsgolfworld.com/sundogs-latest-golf-tips/2018/07/31/the-barracuda-championship/
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 09:00
Hi JML, thank you for your feedback.

Firstly I should just point out that I am not running at a loss for the season. The P&L which i clearly update everyweek shows that I am currently 70+pts in profit. Not to be sneezed at!

I take your point re the continuation of the thread & I am interested in other peoples views on this. If you do look back over this seasons thread I have had several positive comments. I was/am intending to review this at the end of the season though.

As for the prices I post I put the best prices available from high st bookies [e.g Coral, PP etc] at the time of posting. I always look to the post the thread as early as possible on Monday so that poeople can get the best price & I don't see there is much more I can do.

Thanks again for your comments & please do take the time to double check my P&L!!

Anyone else, feedback, thoughts, appreciated. Thanks!
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 13:12
I said you were behind this year(2018).


As for the prices I post I put the best prices available from high st bookies [e.g Coral, PP etc] at the time of posting. I always look to the post the thread as early as possible on Monday so that poeople can get the best price & I don't see there is much more I can do.


Mahan
Posting early on Monday ensures that only one or two will get on.These are your Barracuda tips--Swafford 66/1 Laird 40/1 Mahan 80/1 Crane 125/1 All with C0rals.


Both Laird and Mahan were both best price and best place terms with C0rals so were moved to 25/1 and 50/1.

Anyone using C0rals just to back under such favourable circumstances would soon be shown the door.

And how much do you think C0rals would take on Crane at 125/1? On such a minor betting event on Tuesday lunchtime I reckon £20e/w would move the price.

Like most other tipsters what you are offering is "fantasy world" tipping.  Only works in theory.



A blind man using a pin and avoiding the 999/1 shots should't lose more than 3% on the Betfair win market.

You'd think that anyone with their own tipping site would be able to beat the blind man by more than 3%.

Only one rule--You must be able to win £10K at the advised price.
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 13:24
Are the e/w terms you advised available in C0ral shops?
By:
fish in chips
When: 31 Jul 18 14:25
The guy is taking his own spare time to put together interesting write ups for every PGA event. Even if you don't want to follow his selections, it's still a good read, and it's also completely free.  It's not anyone's problem but yours if you can't get a bet laid to the stake you want, your local bookie doesn't do the same e/w terms or if you've missed prices that were previously available. Clearly the selections chosen are based on the market prices at the time of writing. If prices have shortened by the time you read, then use your own judgement whether you still think they're value or not. Honestly, I don't really understand your beef here. The golf forum is a ghost town as it is. Criticising posts that you're free to ignore instead just seems churlish.
By:
system99
When: 31 Jul 18 14:51
churlish... i like that word lol

ps,i agree, free write ups should not be "got at" not that jml is beimg rude or anything but keeping this thread going can only be a positive for the forum and it needs all the positivity it can get!!!
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 15:26
Thanks for your support Fish in Chips & I'm glad you're still enjoying the previews.

JML I don't really understand your point or logic in taking a snapshot of a certain part of a season to look @ P&L. We all know golf betting is a long term game & this is the only way to look at it. I could just as easily take a couple of months here or there & say I was 100+pts up over this period.

I am currently +73.53 points up for the 2017/18 season.

I ran the thread for the 2016/17 season on this forum posting the picks directly before I had launched the site & I finished the season +61.25pts in profit.

The first season I ran the thread was 15/16 & I unfortunately finished -21.13 pts

This means over almost three seasons I am approx 115pts up which I do not think is too bad. After all we all know the statistics of what % of punters are winning ones.

As for the prices, again I don't know what else I can do. I understand that not everyone may get on at a price I suggest but as Fish In Chips says you then have to use your judgement. In relation to my tips for the Barracuda Laird & Mahan were basically cut across the board as I believe Ben Coley tipped them as well. This is obviously not in my control.

Do Corals betting shops offer the same prices? To be honest I have absolutely no idea. As for being able to win £10k. Surely you can see that 95% of the people who will read my previews & follow my tips [or that of any other golf tipster] are people who just like to have £10 e/w for some enjoyment to follow over the weekend just as they probably may have £10 on Salah to score first on a Sunday afternoon etc & if I can help make a typical punter like this' weekend by winning them £500+ on a 50-1 shot then great.

I understand that if someone followed my tips religiously they may not always be able to get on at the price initially on offer & that therefore they may not get the same P&L. Equally though someone might choose to back my tips on the exchange & potentially trade a profit when a big one is available.

If anyone had backed Hossler or Si Woo Kim at the 3 fig prices I put them up at earlier this season [I'm sure they were much bigger on the exchange] they could have traded a huge profit on either of these guys when they went massively odds on [before agonisingly failing at the end] & this again is not in the P&L obviously so it's swings & roundabouts.

I am pleased to say that the feedback I get on the site & my previews [which is largely on social media] is almost 100% positive & I am getting well over a 1000 hits a week & growing all the time.

As Fish In Chips says it's obviously free & very time consuming to put together so it's great to get this feedback.

I am always open to constructive criticism and will consider any suggestions that any one has to how I can improve things, however ultimately as Fish In Chips says if you don't like my previews or feel the info or selections aren't helpful you can just choose not to read it.

We all know golf tipping/punting is hard so I hope you are having a good season & I wish you the best of luck for the rest of it.
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 15:29
Thanks System99. Yes I am not suggesting JML is being rude either & I appreciate his feedback, I just don't see what else I can really do re the odds & obviously I feel he is being a bit harsh criticising my P&L record!
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 18:56
fish n chips--you've missed the point


He doesn't post any intresting write-ups ON HERE.   He uses the forum for the sole purpose of advertising his website.

Anyone intrested in the write ups will not need a constant reminder of the web address.
By:
system99
When: 31 Jul 18 19:05
nowt to do with me really, but in fairness, it was created on here and ran on here for a year +

As long as it stays free i feel he has earned the right to put the link on here each week
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 19:05
As for the prices I post I put the best prices available from high st bookies [e.g Coral, PP etc] at the time of posting.


Do Corals betting shops offer the same prices? To be honest I have absolutely no idea.
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 19:20
sorry missed your post  system99

You're as entitled to your opinion as anyone else is.



"As long as it stays free"  suggests that I'm not alone in thinking that sundogmonkey isn't going to all this trouble out of the goodness of his heart.
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 19:23
Guilty as charged JML, yes of course I am trying to spread the word of my website & ultimately I hope more people will stumble across it through my thread on here.

As System99 says it is a free site so I don't see why anyone would begrudge that.

Whilst I am happy to post the info on here I don't have the time to re type out my previews so yes I am going to post a link.

Before your feedback I had already decided that at the end of this PGA season I would invite people to say if they still wanted me to run the thread next season & unless I got 20+ people saying so I would not continue for next season.

As I am sure you can see the thread has had over 12,000 views this season & this increases every week on the thread so I guess some people take advantage of it rather than going straight to the site.

Re 'high st bookies', apologies I used the phrase not specifically because I go to these bookmakers 'high st' shops but to imply that basically when I post prices I am going by the best price offered by a well known firm showing on oddschecker, e.g Hills, Lads, PP, Bet 365, BetFred, Skybet, Unibet etc as opposed to going with the price, which may be offered by say 10bet or SportPesa [to name but 2 who show on Oddschecker] whom I have never used, know nothing about & I doubt many average punters use.
By:
system99
When: 31 Jul 18 19:24
happened too many times to ignore but to coin a phrase "innocent until proven guilty"
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 19:28
Is it your intention to charge at some point in the future?
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 19:39
Nothing to hide here guys, the more people who view the site moving forward & [assuming I stay in profit] spread the word the more the potential is for someone one day to maybe offer me a 'paid gig' doing their tips. Particularly with the impending opening up of the sports betting market in the US. We can but dream!

Also, unlike a lot of tipping sites I have deliberately chosen not to try & set up affiliate schemes with bookies by putting links to them on the site, as A, I don't really trust them & B, ethically I don't want to encourage people to lose money by joining PP, Corals [just as examples] etc to get "20 free spins!" so that I can get a %. I am trying to help people win money not lose it!

If the site got more popular though to the extent that the right company [say a golf clothing/equipment/holiday company] were happy to sponsor to advertise on the  site I would of course consider that as anyone in my situation would.
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 19:43
Several people have already said I should do & that they would be happy to pay JML but no it isn't. I believe in 'give to gain'.
By:
system99
When: 31 Jul 18 19:48
ha, with me sticking my big nose in this i've just had the thought maybe i should have a look lol, i never have, as a rule i never look at tipsters in golf as i study stats etc myself and dont want them to influence my selections.
will have a read now...
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 19:51
Haha! One more reader...I knew this thread worked! Feedback always appreciates System99!
By:
system99
When: 31 Jul 18 19:52
and as free sites go, in fact free or not, golf betting system .co .uk IS BY A COUNTRY MILE THE BEST GOLF INFO SITE EVER CREATED.....FACT!!!!!
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 19:53
*appreciated!
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 19:56
Absolutely System99, always been a great site.
By:
system99
When: 31 Jul 18 20:04
Sorry just read that back, was not meant to read like yours isn't worth reading as i say i can't comment on that, i only post so much as alot of sprint races at mo and bored lol (i'm a pro punter for want of a better term)
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 20:10
No worries System99, no offence taken! As I say if & when u have a chance to have a look at mine will appreciate your thoughts.
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 20:15
Several people have already said I should do & that they would be happy to pay JML but no it isn't. I believe in 'give to gain'.

FFS do you expect any one to believe that.

Ben Crane was still 125/1 with C0rals 7 hours after you tipped.
Hudson Swafford is still 66/1 now.

So we have several people begging to give you money in exchange for your tips,
but hardly anyone backing them when they are for free.
By:
trebor
When: 31 Jul 18 20:22
A well written interesting write up every week on a golf forum, what on earth do you think you are doing sundogmonkey!! I can not see why anyone would complain? and no I have not missed the point that you have to go to another page, bit like getting the Betfair golf write up except at least you only have to copy and past for sundogmonkeys site, god knows where the Betfair one is?


And posting a profit and loss, maybe that idiot some seem to like to follow on the Racing Post should try that.
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 20:26
Every Monday lunchtime I'm going to post tips on this thread using the same rule that you use--if it's on oddschecker it's a genuine tip.

Absolutely no studying but I reckon it will show a profit.
By:
trebor
When: 31 Jul 18 20:29
Your missing the point JML don't just post a tip (and probably stop when your losing), make it interesting and worth reading.
By:
jedi sophie
When: 31 Jul 18 20:33
JML
Your a right misery man.
Nothing positive to say about anything.
Clearly a fabulous pro gambler or something akin though.
yawn.

Keep up the work monkey,hope works out for you.
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 20:33
Sorry JML I give up, it appears I am 'dammed if I do, dammed if i don't' with you. If swathes of people had backed my tips & they had shortened you would be moaning about that, [like u were with Mahan & Laird who shortened as they were tipped elsewhere] however because I am 'small fry' & obviously do not have the readership/following of a Palmer or Coley & therefore the few people who may have backed Swafford or Crane on my advice have not 'moved the odds' you are unhappy about that!

I do appreciate your feedback & thank you but I don't feel i've got anything more I can add now.

Trebor, thank you for reading & thank you for your support!
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 20:35
Sorry if making a profit isn't enough for you,but I know very little about golf,so writing a blog is out of the question.

I'm just making another point that showing a profit under the same conditions as sundogmonkey uses doesn't require any superior golfing knowledge.
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 31 Jul 18 20:37
Cheers Jedi, much appreciated.
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 20:42
Clearly a fabulous pro gambler or something akin though.
yawn.


Have been since 1991. And as such I regard you all as my customers and will do all I can to protect you from chancers.


Just give me an year and see if I can show a profit.
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 20:43
CoolLaugh
By:
jedi sophie
When: 31 Jul 18 20:46
Would be thought as a pro gambler since 1991 your time would be better spent elsewhere!

But hey what would I know.

Don't know much about golf, just dig people out on an anonymous gambling forum about GOLF.LOL...
By:
JML
When: 31 Jul 18 20:50
tell you the truth jedi--I know very little about any sport.
By:
donny osmond
When: 31 Jul 18 22:31
i think we all know about the problems of getting matched with books

and i've often used the counter argument that racing post take wednesday prices.



good luck to all tipsters and anybody that sticks their tips on here even if it
is just a link to another free sire



there are other tipsters who charge, some of them have posted on here too over
the years, and all added to our chat and discussions.


some of the prices on betfair are better than thise available at books,

but spotting the ricks
on a monday or tuesday isnt quite as easy if you know nothing about golf !!!
By:
donny osmond
When: 31 Jul 18 22:32
free site
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