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The latest forum competition, the US PGA (for the 1st time since 2013):  PLEASE ENTER ON THIS THREAD.

This is how it works:

There are 12 sections You have to pick 1 player, Yes/No, or number (depending on which section) for each one. The scores for each selection are listed below.
Just put the letters A to L with your choice for each - preferably going downwards, followed by a tie-break answer.

In the event of a tie (1st place only), a tiebreak will come into effect so there will be an absolute winner.

There will be Prizes of Sportsbook bets (Thanks Betfair!!!) for the 1st 3  places

The Sections: and some details/clues/history
The event is being held, for the 1st time, at Quail Hollow, Home for the last few years of the Wells Fargo, Quail Hollow and Wachovia Championships and where both Rory McIlroy and Rickie Fowler had their 1st PGA Tour victories. If you REALLY want to study, It might be worth looking into the history of these tournaments.

A. How many will Adam Scott score in Round 1 (His 3  previous 1st round scores in the PGA have been; 70, 76, and 71) 3 points for exact, 1 point if 1 out
Par is 72

B. Day 1 Leader: Name the player who will lead the event at the end of the 1st round. 6 points for the leader, 4 points for whoever's in 2nd, 2 points for being in 3rd. 1 point if 4th.
You may need to look at the full list of players (outright winner betting page will do) to pick your selection.

C. How many of the 21 players whose First name (or initial) FROM THIS LIST (just in case of I’ve missed any) begins with a ‘J’ will make the cut?: Only 70 players (+ties) make the cut. 4 points for being right, 2 points if you’re 1 away, 1 point if you're two out.
A number between 0 and 21 for this section.
These 21: JB Holmes, James Hahn, Jamie Broce, Jamie Lovemark, Jason Day, Jason Dufner, Jason Kokrak, Jaysen Hansen, Jeunghun Wang, Johnatten Vegas, Jim Furyk, Jim Herman, Jimmy Walker, John Daly, Jon Rahm, Jonas Blixt, Joost Luiten, Jordan Spieth, Justin Rose, Justin Thomas.

D. What will the Cut-Mark be? (ie what will be the highest score which will qualify players for the last 2 rounds).
The last 2 PGA championships were cut at +2 and +2 (that is, 2 over par,  2 over par and 1 over par, stayed in) and the last one at this course was +8
It’s likely to be an over par score, but doesn’t have to be. Your choice.
3 points for being correct, 1 point if 1 out either way.

E. Best 3rd round score. Par is 72. Course record is 61 (McIlroy 2015).  Tournament record 63.
2 points for being right.
Choose (imo) from 63 to 75 - but the probability is 65 - 67 (possibly depending on the weather)

F. How many of these 20 will be in the Top 20 (and ties) at the end of Round 3 4 points for exact, 2 for being out by 1, 1 point if 2 out.
So, any number between 0 and 20 for your selection, please. (They’re 20 of the most fancied); R. McIlroy,  J. Spieth, D Johnson, H. Matsuyama, R. Fowler, B. Koepka, J. Rahm, J. Day, J. Rose, S. Garcia, A. Scott, H. Stenson, J. Thomas, P. Casey, T. Pieters, C. Hoffman, D. Berger, M. Kuchar, T. Fleetwood, M. Leishman.

G. Top Asian. At the end of the PGA. 3 points for top, 1 point for 2nd, (among the Asians). This list is more or less in betting order:
Choose from: H. Matsuyama, BH An, H. Li, SW Kim, SH Kang, A. Lahiri, H. Tanihara, T. Jaidee, JH Wang, KT Kim, YH Song, S. Kodeira, Y. Ikeda, YE Yang
 
H. Top GB and Ireland player At the end of the PGA. 4 points for top, 2 points for 2nd, 1 point for 3rd (among the Brits/Irish)
Choose from: R. McIlroy, J. Rose, P. Casey, T. Fleetwood, I Poulter, R. Fisher, L. Westwood, A. Sullivan, S. Lowry, C. Wood, M. Fitzpatrick, T. Hatton, G. McDowell, P. Harrington, A. Johnston, J. Smith, M. Laird, L. Donald, D. Willett

I. Top Continental European Player: At the end of the PGA. 4 points for top, 2 points for 2nd, 1 point for 3rd (among the Euros)
Choose from:J. Rahm, H. Stenson, S. Garcia, t. Pieters, A. Noren, R. Cabrera-Bello, B. Weisberger, F. Molinari, T. Olesen, D. Lingmerth, S. Kjeldsen, A. Levy, J. Luiten, J. Blixt, N. Colsaerts, P. Larrazabal, T. Bjorn

J.Top American: At the end of the Tournament. 5 points for top, 3 point for 2nd, 2 points for 3rd, 1 point for 4th (among the huge number of Yanks)
Choose from:J. Spieth, D. Johnson, R. Fowler, B. Koepka, J. Thomas, D. Berger, C. Hoffman, M. Kuchar, P. Mickelson, Z. Johnson, B. Watson, K. Chappell, J. Dufner, J. Walker, K. Kisner, P. Reed, T. Finau, G. Woodland, JB Holmes, B. Snedeker, W. Simpson, X. Shauffele, B. Haas, B. Harman, J. Lovemark, K. Bradley, K. Stanley, R. Henley, B. Horschel, B. Steele, C. Howell 3, J. Hahn, L. Glover, P. Cantlay, P. Uihlein, R. Moore, S. Stricker, P. Rodgers, B. Dechambeau, B. Cauley, D. Summerhays, H. Swafford, J. Furyk, K. Na, P. Perez, S. O’Hair, W. Bryan, C. Reavie, J. Kokrak, L. List R. Streb, W. McGirt, G. Murray, J. Herman, C. Stroud, D. Love 3, K. Kraft, S. Brown, C. Gribble, S. Deane, DA Points, J. Daly, A. Rainaud, A. Beach, B. Smock, C, Moody, JJ Wood, D. McNabb, D. Muttitt, G. Gregory, J. Broce, J. Hansen, K. Pigman, M. Dobyns, M. Small, O. Uresti, P. Claxton, R. Beem, R. Berberian, R. Perry, R. Vermeer, S. Hebert, S. Micheel.

K. What will be the outright winning margin? last 4 US PGA’s have been won by; 1,3,1 and 2 strokes.
Choose from: P/O, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 plus.
3 points for being exactly right.

L. What will be the final winning score? Par is 288.
The last 4 years winning scores were 266, 268, 268, 270.
In the last 25 years the lowest US PGA winning score was 265, and the highest 280 (all venues). 5 points for spot on, 3 points for 1 out, 2 points if 2 out, 1 point if 3 out.
Choose a number (imo) between 264 and 290.

TIEBREAK : 3 ball winners. Pick the winner of these 3 mythical matches:
1. Gribble, Smock or Pigman
2. Kisner, Lovemark, or Cantlay
3. Fleetwood, Stroud, or Vegas
Simple as that.
If they all miss the cut, the best score for 2 round score will still count.

Other stuff
E&OE - If there's a player missing from any of the sections as I've listed them (I don't think I've missed anyone), he will be ignored for scoring purposes.
Any ties in any sections, points shared; (eg, if the score is 2 points for 3rd, 1 point for 4th, and there's a tie for 3rd, both will score 1.5)
Please put initials with any ambiguous selections (eg. There are 2 Johnsons, 2 Woods) any doubt about a selection for a section will score ZERO for that section regardless of the intention.
If I’ve made any glaring errors please let me know, and I’ll do my best to rectify….. otherwise….
The organiser's (that's me) decision is final. I'll endeavour to update scores and standings at the end of each day's play.
Entries accepted until 1.00pm (UK TIME) AND NOT 1 MINUTE LATER, Thursday 10th August, because I was delayed in putting this thread up (NO LATE ENTRIES ACCEPTED, as the event will have started before the competition does – but not by much.)

Scores and updates, prize info, and everything else connected will appear on this thread. Whilst all assistance and constructive criticism is appreciated, make sure you leave the thread relatively clear so the updates can be easily found.
Good Luck everybody and enjoy the golf.

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By:
mr meagi
When: 07 Aug 17 18:53
Hi SF, thanks for your work here, you are using a par 72 for this competition, will we ignore the par 71 on the new Quail Hollow layout....I just might enter.Cool
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Aug 17 18:58
Flipping Wikipedia!
Actually, it doesn't affect any of the answers - it's merely a factual inaccuracy - I really had trouble putting this one together - my computer was like wading through treacle, especially trying to use the pgatour website. Added to late info coming in Sad
btw, Ignore the information on section D about the last one at this course being by 8 shots. It hasn't been at this course before.

ALSO: ALL the lists are in (more or less) betting order, rather than alphabetical
By:
mr meagi
When: 07 Aug 17 19:17
Someone has to start this thing..........Wish me Luck!

A-70
B-Fowler
C 11
D +1
E 67
F 9
G-Matsuyama
H-McIlroy
I-Molinari
J-Fowler
K 3
L-269
M-Gribble/Kisner/FleetwoodLove
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Aug 17 19:24
PAR IS 71 (Not 72)!!!!
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Aug 17 20:10
good luck
By:
donny osmond
When: 07 Aug 17 21:50
nice one study



A. How many will Adam Scott score in Round 1 ................69

B. Day 1 Leader:  rick fowler

C. 11 js make cut

D. What will the Cut-Mark be? 145

E. Best 3rd round score. 64

F. How many of these ......12

G. Top Asian. At the end of the PGA. H. Matsuyama,
H. Top GB and Ireland player At the end of the PGA. ...,,, R. McIlroy,

I. Top Continental European Player: At the end of the PGA. H. Stenson,

J.Top American: At the end of the Tournament.  R. Fowler

K. What will be the outright winning margin? 2 strokes

L. What will be the final winning score? 270

TIEBREAK : 3 ball winners. Pick the winner of these 3 mythical matches:
1. Gribble,
2. , Lovemark,
3. Fleetwood,
Simple as that. Love

good luck to all especially those that have entered before me

and thank you studyform
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Aug 17 23:28
My Entry, fwiw. I'm always useless at this.

A. 73
B. Z. Johnson
C. 11
D. 148
E. 65
F. 7
G. Ikeda
H. Poulter
I. J. Blixt
J. K Na
K. Playoff
L. 274

TB Gribble/Lovemark/Stroud.

GL everybody.
By:
nobbybarnesranoverthewrongtrip
When: 07 Aug 17 23:42
A. 71
B. Rahm
C. 10
D. 146
E. 66
F. 8
G. Matsuyama
H. Rose
I. Garcia
J. Koepka
K. 1
L. 272

TB Fleetwood, Stroud, or Vegas

God bless you Mike. Hope you're well.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 08 Aug 17 00:53
Bearing up under pressure mate. Hope fortune and good stuff is going your way too, S.
Thank you.
By:
lumponlarge
When: 08 Aug 17 09:19
A. 70
B. Matsuyama
C. 13
D. +2
E. 65
F. 7
G. Matsuyama
H. McIlroy
I. Rahm
J.Speith
K. 3
L. 270
TB. Gribble/Kisner/Fleetwood
By:
superbob
When: 08 Aug 17 09:35
A. 70
B. hoffman
C. 12
D. +1
E. 64
F. 11
G. matsuyama
H. McIlroy
I. Pieters
J. fowler
K. 1
L. 272
TB. Gribble/lovemark/Fleetwood

Thanks Study, gla.
By:
qqking.
When: 08 Aug 17 11:35
A. 69
B. Dustin Johnson
C. 11
D. +2
E. 65
F. 11
G. Matsuyama
H. I Poulter
I. S Garcia
J. D Berger
K. 2
L. 269

TB: Gribble/Kisner/Fleetwood
By:
THEMONEYSHOT
When: 08 Aug 17 11:53
A) 69
B) Mcilroy
C) 7
D) +3
E) 66
F) 8
G) Matsuyama
H) Mcilroy
I) Garcia
J) Fowler
k) 1
L) 275

Tie-Break

1) Gribble
2) Kisner
3) Vegas

Thank you Study' for doing this (AGAIN !!!!!) Crazy
By:
Scoop6
When: 08 Aug 17 16:27
A. 70
B. Jason Day
C. 10
D. 145
E. 64
F. 9
G. Matsuyama
H. P Casey
I. J Luiten
J. B Koepka
K. 2
L. 276

TB    Smock, Kisner, Fleetwood

thanks STUDYFORM.  GL all.
By:
Super Hans
When: 08 Aug 17 17:45
A. 72
B. Rory Mcilroy
C. 10
D. 145
E. 65
F. 8
G. Matsuyama
H. Rory
I. Rahm
J. R Fowler
K. 1
L. 272

TB Smock / Kisner / Fleetwood

Cheers Study.
By:
El Bandido
When: 08 Aug 17 20:29
A. 70
B. Rory McIlroy
C. 11
D. 143
E. 65
F. 7
G. Hideki Matsuyama
H. Rory McIlroy
I. Jon Rahm
J. Jordan Spieth
K. 1 Shot
L. 271

TB Gribble/Kisner/Fleetwood

Thanks STUDYFORM, and good luck everyone!
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 08 Aug 17 22:19
A. 69
B. Jordan Spieth
C. 10
D. 145
E. 67
F. 9
G. Hideki Matsuyama
H. Justin Rose
I. Jon Rahm
J. Rickie Fowler
K. 2
L. 276

TB. Gribble/Kisner/Fleetwood
By:
Hank Hill
When: 08 Aug 17 22:34
A: 70
B: Kevin Kisner
C: 12
D: +3
E: 65
F: 6
G: Hideki Matsuyama
H: Rory McIlroy
I: David Lingmerth
J: Rickie Fowler
K: 2
L: 270
TB: Gribble, Kisner, Vegas

Thanks as always for doing the comp study

Cheers and gl all
By:
ROBBO ROBBO
When: 08 Aug 17 22:54
A = 69
B = T Finau
C = 10
D = +3
E = 66
F = 8
G = H Matsuyama
H = P Casey
I = A Noren
J = R Fowler
K = 3
L = 276
TB = Kisner Lovemark Cantlay
By:
andy cap
When: 09 Aug 17 00:55
A-72
B-Hideki Matsuyama
C  9
D +4
E 64
F 12
G-Hideki Matsuyama
H-J. Rose
I-J. Rahm
J-J. Spieth
K 2
L-281
TIEBREAK-1. Gribble
         2. Lovemark
         3. Vegas

  Thanks for running the competition STUDYFORM if I don't win I hope its you. good luck to all
By:
mengmeng
When: 09 Aug 17 10:39
A. 72
B. Rory
C. 11
D. 75
E. 64
F. 9
G. matsuyama
H. Rory
I. stenson
J d johnson
K. 2
L. 270
TIEBREAK : 3 ball winners. Pick the winner of these 3 mythical matches:
1. Gribble
2. Kisner
3. Fleetwood
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 09 Aug 17 10:43
A.72
B.Rory McIlroy
C.15
D.+2
E.66
F.10
G.Hideki Matsuyama
H.Paul Casey
I.Thorbjorn Olesen
J.Rickie Fowler
K.2
L.270
Tiebreak
1.Cody Gribble
2.Kevin Kisner
3.Tommy Fleetwood
By:
scarlet
When: 09 Aug 17 11:06
A 69
B Day
C 11
D +4
E 68
F 6
G Matsuyama
H Fleetwood
I Cabrera Bello
J Fowler
K 3
L 280
Gribble Cantley Fleetwood
By:
Lance in France
When: 09 Aug 17 12:35
A 71
B D Johnson
C 9
D +1
E 65
F 8
G H Matsuyama
H R McIlroy
I H Stenson
J D Johnson
K One
L 276

Gribble
Kisner
Fleetwood
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 09 Aug 17 12:44
HERE's a handy blank entry form fyi...

A. Adam Scott’s Rd 1 Score.
B. Name of First Round Leader (FRL).

C. How many of 21 first name ‘J’s make the cut.
D. Qualifying Cut-Mark score.

E. Best Rd 3 Score.
F. Many T20 favs in the T20 after Rd 3.
G. Top Asian.
H. Top GB & Ire.
I. Top European.
J. Top USA.

K. Winning margin.
L. Winning score.

Tiebreak: 3 match winners.
By:
therhino
When: 09 Aug 17 12:57
A. 70
B. McIlroy
C. 10
D. Even par
E. 66
F. 8
G. Matsuyama
H. McIlroy
I. Rahm
J. Fowler
K. 2 shots
L. 271
TB. Gribble, Lovemark, Fleetwood
By:
Perseus
When: 09 Aug 17 12:57
No clue but here goes!

A. Adam Scott’s Rd 1 Score..70
B. Name of First Round Leader (FRL)..Spieth

C. How many of 21 first name ‘J’s make the cut..12
D. Qualifying Cut-Mark score..145

E. Best Rd 3 Score. ..65
F. Many T20 favs in the T20 after Rd 3...12
G. Top Asian...Matsuyama
H. Top GB & Ire...McIlroy
I. Top European. ..Cabrero Bello
J. Top USA...Spieth

K. Winning margin...2
L. Winning score.273

Tie break

Gribble/Lovemark/Fleetwood

Cheers Study, Good luck all!
By:
saxon farm
When: 09 Aug 17 13:21
A: 69
B: Noren
C: 11
D: 143
E: 64
F: 12
G: Matsuyama
H: McIlroy
I: Rahm
J: Fowler
K: 1
L: 270

t/b Gribble, Kisner, Fleetwood

Thx studyform!
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 09 Aug 17 13:55
mengmeng

NAME your CUT MARK again
Devil
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 09 Aug 17 14:32
A: 73
B: T FINAU
C: 9
D: LEVEL PAR
E: 65
F: 11
G: H Li
H: R. McIlroy
I: R. Cabrera-Bello
J: Xander Schauffele
K: 2
L: 277

T/B
PIGMAN
KISNER
VAGAS

Thanks Study
By:
mengmeng
When: 09 Aug 17 14:41
cut mark +5 is probably a bit more likely. sowwy!
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 09 Aug 17 15:15
Whoops
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 09 Aug 17 16:21
STUDYFORM 07 Aug 17 19:24 Joined: 26 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 16,804 | Blogger: STUDYFORM's blog
PAR IS 71 (Not 72)!!!!

can i change The Cut to + 4
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 09 Aug 17 17:09
Yes - Done. Sorry mate
By:
dunlop65
When: 09 Aug 17 17:24
A.69
B.Berger
C.10
D.+2
E.66
F.7
G.Matsuyama
H.McIlroy
I.Stenson
J.Dustin Johnson
K.One shot
L.272

Tiebreaker Gribble,Kisner,Vegas.

Cheers Study.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 09 Aug 17 17:42
Ah, the first mention of Berger as FRL (66's with SJ) Devil
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 09 Aug 17 18:03
A to L - 69, Fowler, 8, 144, 64, 7, Matsu, Rose, Rahm, Berger, 1, 270, Tie-GKF.....Cheers Study.
By:
tv man
When: 09 Aug 17 18:47
A 74
B MCILROY
C 9
D +1
E 64
F 4
G H. LI
H MCILROY
I RAHM
J SPIETH
K 1
L 269
TB GRIBBLE
KISNER
FLEETWOOD
cheers
By:
ifeellikemoney
When: 09 Aug 17 19:01
A-   70
B-   Fowler
C-   9
D-   +3
E-   65
F-   9
G-   Matsuyama
H-   McIlory
I-     Pieters
J-    Fowler
K-    P/O
L-    272

TB-  Smock/Lovemark/Fleetwood
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