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By:
Quincy
When: 10 Apr 15 15:32
Small squad for me.

Seung-Yul Noh
Ryan Moore
Ryan Palmer
Lee Westwood
Justin Rose
Jordan Speith
Rory McIlroy
Billy Horschel
Danny Willett
J. B. Holmes
Kevin Streelman

Ski has just persuaded me to add Henley and Casey.

Cool

Think Noh and Streelman are massive prices.
By:
sheppy123
When: 10 Apr 15 16:43
This is amazing but I've traded on about half the field successfully. BUT... I'm not on Spieth!Cry

A few double bogey's would go down well with me right now!Happy
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 10 Apr 15 17:17
kincsem  • April 9, 2015 6:55 PM BST 
The last seven Masters winners started with a round in the sixties.


In the last nine MASTERS the winner has come from the T10.


IN 2015.....11 players at -3 or better...incl DAY, ROSE, GARCIA and my fancies CASEY and PALMER (who's going backwards ffs).
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 10 Apr 15 18:42
'Best Comebacks' after just 18 Holes of play were.....from 7 SHOTS BACK.....Nick Faldo in 1990 and Tiger Woods in 2005.


...in the 2015 tournament there are 30 players with 7 shots after Round 1.

incl...DAY, SERGIO, CASEY, DUSTIN, PHIL, PALMER, MATSUYAMA,, SCHWARTZEL,, BUBBA and wee RORY.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 10 Apr 15 20:32
The average attempts before your first victory at The Masters is SIX (from 48 winners).

It’s well known Fuzzy is the only one in the modern era to win on his first attempt back in ’79 but it took 15 attempts for the 1998 winner Mark O’Meara.
Two attempts for Schwartzel before winning in 2011 while Woods in ’97 & Bubba in 20.12 had three prior goes at it.

Four attempts for Arnie, Watson & Seve and Five tries for Player and Jack.
Faldo did it on his sixth attempt along with Immelman, who was the last wire-to-wire winner (incl. ties) in 2008.

Only ONCE in the last 30 years has the Masters champ been the sole leader after the first 18 holes. - Crenshaw '84.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 11 Apr 15 00:33
TIGER AND RORY 2ball tomoro both on -2 ?

HOW IS THE DRAW DECIDED ???
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 11 Apr 15 14:44
Draw is decided on scores when scores are equal first in is last out. They are paired together as they finished in that order.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 12 Apr 15 19:08
Catch Me ifyoucan  • March 29, 2015 4:00 PM BST 
WHAT IS ABOUT SUNDAY AFTERNOON THAT ATTRACTS THESE A**E H***S...
...likes FLYS TO SH8T.
Not one constructive post on the thread ALL FCUKING WEEK then all of a sudden feel the urge to.....


Here we go again.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 23 Mar 16 15:33
2016 Masters Tournament field could be smallest since 1998.


Nearly three full months into 2016 with the deadline for gaining entry into the Masters Tournament fast approaching, only one professional in the world has booked a late spot at Augusta National Golf Club. Vaughn Taylor. That’s right.
The lone 2016 field addition from the best pros across the globe is the Hephzibah/Augusta State grad that had no full status on any tour in January. With his stunning victory at Pebble Beach in February, Taylor earned the right to drive about seven miles from his home in Evans to Magnolia Lane in two weeks.
And the odds are pretty good that Taylor might stay the only one. An 11th-hour winner in next week’s Shell Houston Open might be the last best hope for some lucky unqualified player to join Taylor in Augusta.


This week’s WGC Match Play marks the last chance for players to gain entry into the Masters via the top 50 in the Official World Golf Rankings. Seven players loitering outside the top-50 bubble are among the 64 set to compete in round-robin pool play beginning Wednesday at Austin Country Club. The only real chance any of them will have of climbing into the top 50 is at least winning one of the 16 pools to reach the knockout rounds. For most of them, a deep run is essential to gain the world ranking points necessary. Short of that, the only hope for anyone else is winning in Houston on the eve of Masters Week.

The lucky seven contenders queued up for last call are South Africa’s Jaco Van Zyl (No. 52), Spain’s Rafael Cabrera-Bello (54), Belgium’s Thomas Pieters (57), Australians Marcus Fraser (62) and Matt Jones (63), American Patton Kizzire (65) and Denmark’s Thorbjorn Olesen (66).
Unless someone makes a surprise run this week or grabs the last golden ticket in Houston, the Masters field (currently 88 excluding the four expected no-shows) could dip below 90 for the first time since 89 teed it up in 2002.


Since the world rankings were implemented as a qualifying criteria in 1999 and the automatic winners were reinstated in 2008, there has never been such a scarcity of qualifiers in the early months leading up to the Masters. Taylor and 16-year-old Latin America Amateur winner Paul Chaplet of Costa Rica are the only two players to qualify since 15 top-50 players locked in at the end of 2015.


In fact, there’s been a presumed net loss of one in the expected number of starters since the year began – a figure that could reach minus-three if qualifiers Willett and Kevin Streelman have to withdraw late for paternity leave. Tiger Woods (back), Jim Furyk (wrist) and Jose Maria Olazabal (undisclosed) are all sidelined while they recover from injuries. Sangmoon Bae was already out because of a two-year military service requirement in his native South Korea.


It has been a remarkable set of circumstances that led to this dearth of latecomers. In 10 punch-your-ticket PGA Tour events since January, only Taylor played the role of Cinderella by beating favorite Phil Mickelson at Pebble Beach. Winners in the other nine include past Masters champions Jordan Spieth, Adam Scott (twice), Bubba Watson and Charl Schwartzel; major winners Jason Day and Jason Dufner; and already qualified past tour winners Brandt Snedeker, Hideki Matsuyama and Fabian Gomez.


For whatever reason, few outsiders have been able to close and clinch like Taylor. North Augusta/USC Aiken’s Scott Brown got blown away in the wind at Torrey Pines. Native Augustan Charles Howell couldn’t summon a Sunday charge in Tampa.
Habitual groomsman Kevin Chappell let go of the latest opportunity, heading to the final hole at Bay Hill with a one-shot lead before playing the hole so cautiously he settled for a bogey. Day simultaneously birdied the 17th to inherit the lead at the 18th tee and won with a sand-save par on the last to deny Chappell.

The rest of the world hasn’t offered too many openings for top-50 climbers either, with most of the marquee victories on the global European Tour being gobbled up by already established qualifiers like Rickie Fowler, Branden Grace, Louis Oosthuizen, Schwartzel and Willett.


Only Van Zyl even temporarily penetrated the border, reaching No. 49 three weeks ago after a victory in the Sunshine Tour’s Eye of Africa PGA Championship.
That earned him a coveted spot in the WGC event at Doral the next week, where precious no-cut points were available for just showing up.
Van Zyl, however, chose not to make the trip from South Africa to south Florida due to the distance. Anything in the top half at Doral would have kept him inside the Official World Golf Ranking top 50 and a high finish might have secured his first trip to the Masters.
Instead he slipped two spots to 51st while watching at home and put pressure on himself to make something happen in the Match Play.

Match play is unpredictable, but getting out of their respective round-robin pools is going to require an upset. Cabrera-Bello must deal with top-20 PGA Tour winners Matsuyama and Kevin Kisner. Pieters drew a group with the red-hot Scott.
The rest have at least one top-20 major winner to contend with atop their pools: Olesen (Rory McIlroy), Kizzire (Watson), Fraser (Zach Johnson) and Jones (Oosthuizen).
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 23 Mar 16 16:57
https://twitter.com/TheMasters

Watch this space.....12 days to go to Masters week, 12 years ago since Phil won !
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 24 Mar 16 16:21
johnnythebull  • March 24, 2016 9:46 AM GMT 
as it goes.....the guy really is an unreal bottler.....
think it may be a long wait 4 the wee man (rors that is) to pick up another major
don't see Spieth winning another one anytime soon either


Might have to bring this quote back up in two weeks Whoops
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 24 Mar 16 20:29
Jason Day disappeared from the golf course at the WGC and is now a major doubt for the Masters !

http://www.golfpunkhq.com/news/article/jason-day-suffers-injury-on-16th-tee-at-wgc
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 24 Mar 16 23:16
doesnt look like day is struggling today
By:
firstimevisor
When: 24 Mar 16 23:41
Anyone know if Tiger is teeing up in the Masters?
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 24 Mar 16 23:47
In fact, there’s been a presumed net loss of one in the expected number of starters since the year began – a figure that could reach minus-three if qualifiers Willett and Kevin Streelman have to withdraw late for paternity leave. Tiger Woods (back), Jim Furyk (wrist) and Jose Maria Olazabal (undisclosed) are all sidelined while they recover from injuries. Sangmoon Bae was already out because of a two-year military service requirement in his native South Korea.


Doubt it tbh
By:
firstimevisor
When: 25 Mar 16 00:07
Ta
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 25 Mar 16 09:59
Streelman's baby has happened 3 days ago - assuming this makes him likely to play? Anyone heard otherwise. Decent play at 500 I think
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 26 Mar 16 17:45
Cabrera-Bello must deal with top-20 PGA Tour winners Matsuyama and Kevin Kisner.

AND so RAFA did, thus earning a place in the Mssters !
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 26 Mar 16 17:47
With one up and 4/3 wins he's in the Masters
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 26 Mar 16 18:05
Rory masters prep going well- has the look of eagles about him at the moment and when he does he's a very tough guy to beat.

I think last year he was nervous as a kitten- all the talk was about how he was favourite and how he could complete the grand slam.

This year should be  lot different as the public perception is that he's only one of three favourites with Day and Spieth.

As things stand I think he's an each way shot to nothing and I think he'll go very close indeed.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Mar 16 09:03
If it rains Mcilroy can win this, it will help his putting. Despite what people think rain and even windy conditions are ideal for Mcilroy.

He hits the ball so purely that gives him an advantage in the worst weather over the rest. (ps he would have won the open at st Andrews when he was 18 but for his putting, oosty won it that year, windy conditions day 3 and rory scored badly...but this was because the greens had quickly dried out not because of the wind.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 27 Mar 16 10:38
I don't think he needs it to rain to win.

Conditions on the greens here are pretty fast, maybe not as quick as Augusta, but he's coping with them fairly well isn't he? And he put himself in a position to win Augusta a few years back when he was a significantly worse player than he is now. Just lacked the experience to close it out.

I think with Rory it's as much about his state of mind as anything else. If he's feeling confident and has got that bounce back in his step then he's very hard to stop, rain or no rain.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 27 Mar 16 15:07
McIlroy isn't great in the wind just see his final round at doral. Doubt wind will be a problem at the Masters.

He definitely has an advantage when courses especially long ones are soft.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Mar 16 11:00
a lot of prices shortened todaySad
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Mar 16 11:40
What are the factors that mean that someone is a good or bad player in windy conditions?

1. Hits the ball high. Well that is something Mcilroy does, but that is the modern way. They pretty much all do that.

2. Someone who is a short or medium hitter will naturally be at a disadvantage in windy conditions, not applicable to Mcilroy

3.The quality of the strike of clubface on ball, this is far and away the most important and here Mcilroy is as good as anyone who has ever played golf.

These are the mechanics, and from these it can be seen that it is impossible for Mcilroy to be a bad player in the wind. Ah of course I have not mentioned the phycology of golf, does he lack confidence in certain conditions...possibly, but at the end golf is a game in which technique overrides everything and Mcilroys inherent superiority in all these measures over most other players mean he is and must be a great player in all conditions.
By:
donny osmond
When: 28 Mar 16 12:05
some folk dont enjoy playing in wind as they cant stipe it and dont like adjusting

some have balance issues, and others cant hit half shots that are required at times

some cant accept how much distance is taken off or added by the wind

some refuse to accept wind affects putts


not just an issue of ball flight and or striking


some have played well in the wind in the past and relish it, others simply give up when it goes wrong





best look at who has played well or badly in wind in past and expect them to repeat, imo

making excuses as a reason to have a bet is quick way to poor bus
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 28 Mar 16 13:04
Mcilroy's track record suggests he struggles in the wind. He missed the cut at the honda and blew a comfortable lead at doral on a windy sunday. These are two examples from the last month. I can't remember Mcilroy ever winning when there have been windy conditions.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Mar 16 13:50
Players do not win golf tournaments as a rule, they lose them almost always.
This is why you can`t remember Mcilroy winning in windy condition. It is the percentages. You can`t remember anyone else winning in windy conditions either...because noone does.

Balance issues are governed first and foremost by the quality of the golf swing, this is more important than a players bulid or anything else.
Mcilroy hits the ball so purely and so far because everything is in perfect balance...more so than 90% of other players..this would give him an advantage in the wind.

some can`t accept distance being taken off or added by the wind? perhaps but a far more important thing is the quality of the strike. A poorly struck shot will always be magnified in windy conditions...therefore someone without Mcilroys striking will have every shot effected irrespective of their composure in the conditions....golf is in this way the most honest of games, you cannot get away with poor technique.

It can have an effect on putting, and this is where Mcilroy may have a weakness, but not because of the wind, because his putting tech. is in itself a little shakey....but this is the problem most other golfers face throughtout every shot they play in the wind. Mcilroy does not and this gives him a great advantage.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 28 Mar 16 14:08
what's this got to do with the masters anyway? when's it ever windy at augusta? Laugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Mar 16 14:09
Lets hope it rains and blows a gale and Mcilroy wins by 10...he is that goodGrin
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 28 Mar 16 14:16
last time it was windy that i can remember was 2007

lfc try looking at mcilroys scores in windy and non windy conditions and you will see the difference. Ill give you one for starters 2014 scottish open rd 1 = 64 rd2 = 78 im sure you can work out which day the wind blew.

As for your nonsense that no one wins - each week there is a winner it is the fella holding the trophy up on a sunday afternoon.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Mar 16 14:21
mighty whites there will be no discernable difference between Mcilroys scores on good days or bad...except in the sense that everyone will find it more difficult to score well in a gale. What i am convinced off however is that Mcilroy has the armory to score low, very low in the most terrible weather.
By:
donny osmond
When: 28 Mar 16 14:54
rory has played well in the wind, but, i cant remember him doing so lately

until he does again i shall avoid him in the wind, good luck lfc, im sure one
day it will come off for you but at 10/1 do you really need to ?
By:
hitman76
When: 28 Mar 16 15:46
I don't get it ? Are we expecting howling winds at Augusta this year ?
By:
kincsem
When: 01 Apr 16 18:27
I posted on page 4 above about the myth that 1st timers can't win the Masters.

That got me thinking.  Perhaps they can win if they "learn the course" over the 72 holes.  Maybe they need 15 or 20 rounds to learn the course.
I don't subscribe to old wives tales like that.  The players get to practice the course, have yardage charts, watch videos.
If it was true that a player must spend years learning the course then surely the players who play the worst are those playing their first round in their first Masters?

First round leaders on first appearance

1967: Bert Yancy in his first US Masters led the first round with a 67, and finished 3rd.
1980: Jeff Mitchell in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 66, and finished 38th.
1981: Greg Norman in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 69, and finished 4th.
1986: Ken Green in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 68, and finished 36th.
1988: Robert Wrenn in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 69, and finished 25th.
1991: Jim Gallagher in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 67, and finished 17th.
1993: Tom Lehman in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 67, and finished 3rd.
1999: Brandel Chamblee in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 69, and finished 18th.
2000: Dennis Paulson in his first US Masters held the first round lead with a 68, and finished 14th.
2001: Chris DiMarco in his first US Masters held the first round lead with a 65, and finished 10th.
2007: Brett Wetterich in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 69, and finished 37th.

How could these newbies, who had not spent years learning the Augusta course, play well enough to take the 1st round lead?
By:
kincsem
When: 01 Apr 16 19:29
2011: Alvaro Quiros in his first US Masters held the first round lead with a 65, and finished 27th.
2013: Mark Leishman in his first US Masters tied the first round lead with a 66, and finished 4th.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 01 Apr 16 20:17
Think only Fuzzy has won it on his first start although tiger won on his first pro appearance by 12 although he had played as an amateur previously. Spieth has a first and second on his two visits but like tiger is a supreme talent.

Leading after 18 is very different from winning only 5 in your list finished better than 17th.

There are a few of the talented young guns making their first appearance this year so will be interesting to see how they get on.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Apr 16 20:26
kincsem

do you hav stats first round leaders that win?

I had £20 on Immelmann when he did it
By:
donny osmond
When: 01 Apr 16 20:37
golf stats are full of contradictions but surely getting used to any course gives
an advantage over no experience.

masters is only major where its the same course year on year

theres no reason why a newbie shouldnt play well on a course he must have
seen dozens of times

but theres 4 days pin positions to learn on top of everything else
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Apr 16 20:43
I remember a scots player qualified for 1st time

he said all thru his youth he saw it on TV,beautiful sunny warm

had to buy sweaters local pro shop

first two days he played,it was baltic,missed cut
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