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Shanelee1966
17 Jan 22 16:34
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I`ve spent most of 2021 devising methods/systems etc, all failed except this one.

Three months in profit, so now due to lose, we`ll see.

Starting bank of £100. Each lay to win £10, mainly shorties.

Balance £100
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Report six_six_six January 18, 2022 5:07 PM GMT
What one?
Report Shanelee1966 January 19, 2022 6:11 AM GMT
Starting today so i`m sure both will win Sad

Dynamite Kentucky - 3.10 Plumpton @2.0

Lucayan - 5.35 Southwell @2.66
Report Escapee January 19, 2022 11:19 PM GMT
Laying for profit, can it be done?


with over 15 years experience in this area i can answer your question: YES Excited



reality check: I would caution that unless you find a double figure edge, you will likely experience
downswings of depressingly long periods, my longest was 8 months, but I also had several of
4 to 6 months.

During these periods, it is easy to doubt your own methodology. So, not only do you need
to find a winning edge, but you also need the psychological make up to allow yourself
to endure the inevitable long losing streaks without flinching or making uncalled for adjustments..


Good luck in 2022
Report Shanelee1966 January 20, 2022 5:35 AM GMT
My discipline has improved, was always my downfall.
Report Shanelee1966 January 20, 2022 5:41 AM GMT
Balance £99.79

Terresita - 3.00 Ludlow @3.75
Report Shanelee1966 January 21, 2022 5:49 AM GMT
Balance £109.88

Last Ammo - 12.40 Southwell

Left lay @2.2
Report Shanelee1966 January 21, 2022 5:28 PM GMT
Balance £120.05

Focusing on Lingfield & Wolves tomorrow.
Report Shanelee1966 January 22, 2022 1:10 PM GMT
Galia Des Liteaux - 4.05 Ascot

Lay at @2.38
Report Shanelee1966 January 22, 2022 4:19 PM GMT
Balance £130.21

No bet Sunday, resume Monday.
Report ericster January 22, 2022 5:26 PM GMT
Lookin good 66, good luck.
Report raspberrybottom January 22, 2022 7:46 PM GMT
Good start, shane!
Report Shanelee1966 January 23, 2022 2:32 PM GMT
Thanks guys. Always good to start well when posting Grin

In its current form 38pts up from early October. Small profit every month.
Report waynebrayn January 23, 2022 4:14 PM GMT
Yes, it can be done
Report Shanelee1966 January 23, 2022 5:47 PM GMT
Kaboo - 3.15 Kempton @1.94
Report Shanelee1966 January 24, 2022 7:16 PM GMT
Balance £120.31

Tokay Dokey - 3.50 Leicester @2.42
Report Andrew.in.Sweden January 25, 2022 4:08 PM GMT
Good luck Shane Happy
Report Shanelee1966 January 25, 2022 6:51 PM GMT
Khatwah - 5.30 Kemp @2.5

Thanks Andrew
Report Shanelee1966 January 25, 2022 6:51 PM GMT
Profit £20.31
Report happysandwich January 25, 2022 9:17 PM GMT
Shanelee1966,

Just noticed your thread via Andrew’s.
Wish you all the best and keep it to £10 a lay – keeps it simple to understand and fun like mine.
I’ll be looking in on your progress.

Btw
Why did you put it on here and not the Horse Racing ?
Report Shanelee1966 January 26, 2022 5:35 AM GMT
Morning happy, will do.

I`ll switch it over after a few months if still in profit.
Report Shanelee1966 January 30, 2022 6:32 PM GMT
Been away for a few days.

Famous Star - 5.00 Wolves @1.9
Sweet Auburn - 4.00 Hereford @1.94
Representing Bob - 3.40 Plumpton @2.8
Report happysandwich January 30, 2022 11:43 PM GMT
Been away for a few days.

What did you find before it was lost this time?Laugh

Representing Bob is one of mine also.
Good luck
Report Shanelee1966 January 31, 2022 4:14 PM GMT
Had a few days in London happy, bustards done me like a kipper £80 fine for congestion charge Sad
Report happysandwich January 31, 2022 5:11 PM GMT
Well done Shanelee1966 that’s 3 on the bounce today  - good start.

I’m going for a 5 timer today with Thapa Va in the Wolver 7:30

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_NbwCB7bvZhuTUFzjK5tzv5rEwBss-h05hKGENL9v-o/edit?usp=sharing
Report raspberrybottom January 31, 2022 5:11 PM GMT
Good stuff today, shane!Happy
Report Shanelee1966 January 31, 2022 6:54 PM GMT
Nice one happy. Cheers rasp
Report Shanelee1966 January 31, 2022 6:57 PM GMT
Having a rare dabble on footy tonight.

Lay under 2.5 goals Pacos Ferreira, Portuguese prem @1.66
Report Shanelee1966 January 31, 2022 7:00 PM GMT
Just had a look at your sheet happy, nice one.

How do you arrive at your selections?
Report happysandwich February 1, 2022 3:59 PM GMT
Shane,

How do you arrive at your selections?


I just go through the RP looking for any horse that’s last two form figures are 21.
Absolutely nothing else.
It’s certainly upsetting my ‘troll’ TM. Laugh

As you can see the £166.85 profit so far plus Boris’s £200 is 36.68points.
For me to lose now all my future losing bet’s odds have to total that.
But every future winning bet is a point added.

Good luck with the footy Lay tonight.
Report happysandwich February 1, 2022 4:23 PM GMT
Shane,

Click on the box under ‘Rules’.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_NbwCB7bvZhuTUFzjK5tzv5rEwBss-h05hKGENL9v-o/edit?usp=sharing
Report The Management February 1, 2022 5:24 PM GMT
Aye, I got so "upset" that I pointed you in the direction of how to make 1700% more from the exact same selections, you plum. Laugh

If I got any more upset, you'd probably need to buy a new wheelbarrow for all you pretendy profits! Blush

P.S. I really am placing all these bets honestly! - but can one of the bigger boys please help me with settling a dead heat? Blush
Report Shanelee1966 February 2, 2022 4:01 AM GMT
No bet again today.
Report Shanelee1966 February 3, 2022 4:19 AM GMT
Spring Is Sprung - 3.00 Southwell

Lay at 2.92
Report Escapee February 3, 2022 2:10 PM GMT
Shanelee196603
Spring Is Sprung - 3.00 Southwell

Lay at 2.92



This doesn't fit your "21" criteria ????



Form: 410-1
Report Shanelee1966 February 3, 2022 3:04 PM GMT
That`s not my system buddy, it`s happy`s as above.

Mine is something i worked on last year, it has 4 filters if you like.
Fist to admit i`ve tried 30/40 other methods and failed so this one will probably too.
Report Shanelee1966 February 3, 2022 3:05 PM GMT
Profit £40
Report Escapee February 3, 2022 3:13 PM GMT
good call, placed 3rd I think.


onwards and upwards, good luck
Report Shanelee1966 February 3, 2022 3:21 PM GMT
Cheers, beaten easily
Report Shanelee1966 February 4, 2022 3:43 AM GMT
Tyrrhenian Sea - 6.15 Newc @1.54

Nocte Volatus - 4.15 Catt @1.85
Report happysandwich February 4, 2022 4:46 PM GMT
Shane,

Nocte Volatus looked like it was going to get beaten going to the last hurdle before falling anyway.

Good luck with the next one.
Report Shanelee1966 February 5, 2022 3:29 AM GMT
Looked that way happy, 2 odds on so 1 winner expected.
Report Shanelee1966 February 5, 2022 3:29 AM GMT
Profit £44
Report Shanelee1966 February 5, 2022 3:44 AM GMT
Facile Vega - 4.25 Leop @1.84 to win £11
Report Shanelee1966 February 5, 2022 3:52 AM GMT
The Rules

There will be 8 fortnightly rounds, 16 weeks in total.
Each round and each week within rounds will begin on a Sunday and finish on a Saturday.
Each team will have 8 selections per week, one from each player, duplicate selections are allowed but no duplicate selections within teams at any time. Players must use their 1 selection per week, it cannot be carried over to the other week in the round.
10pts win or 5pts EW on British, Irish & French racing, selected any day, Sunday through Saturday, the week ends on the last Saturday race. If selection is posted without specifying stake then 10pts win assumed.
Settled at SP, EW terms as industry standard.
Selections must be posted before scheduled race time. On Saturdays there will be a 3pm cut-off for selections, that is you may pick in any race after that but it has to be posted by 3pm.
Once you have posted a selection you are not allowed to change it or the stake, unless it becomes a non-runner or is a duplicate.
Non Runners - that team member may choose again for that week.
If you are selecting in a race on Saturday, in the event of a non-runner, you will automatically have 10pts win on the fav in the same race as your selection.
However, you may replace your non-runner with any new selection, provided you do so prior to the race time of the original selection and adhere to the Saturday 3pm cut-off.
If your selection runs after the 3pm Saturday cut-off, and the race in question is abandoned, you will automatically have 10pts Win on the favourite in the next available race at whichever meeting, or in the event of no such races available, it will go on the immediately previous race run.
If there are jt or co-favs then lowest racecard no. is chosen.
Reserve selections are not allowed, nor is posting "just-in-case"  selections for team mates that may or may not turn up.

Wildcards are available to cover holiday or other absence and covering for non-runners.
Team captains will be responsible for managing any wildcards required, there are no restrictions on their use, but please try and share them around so that no one individual is always claiming them. Please also name who the wildcard is for when posting.

Teams will start the week from a baseline of 0pts. This equates to 8 losing selections and/or non-selections.
Subsequent scores will be added to this baseline plus return of the winning part of the stake (10pts for win and EW winner, 5pts for EW placed). All scores count.
Scores will be accumulated through the fortnight, there will be no points awarded for weekly finishing positions.

Points structure for overall comp:
Fortnightly winners will receive 12pts, runners-up - 8pts, 3rd - 6pts, 4th - 4pts, 5th - 3pts, 6th - 2pts, 7th - 1pt


Competition schedule:

Round 1 - 27 Feb to 12 Mar
Round 2 - 13 Mar to 26 Mar
Round 3 - 27 Mar to 09 Apr
Round 4 - 10 Apr to 23 Apr
Round 5 - 24 Apr to 07 May
Round 6 - 08 May to 21 May
Round 7 - 22 May to 04 Jun
Round 8 - 05 Jun to 18 Jun
Report Escapee February 5, 2022 1:49 PM GMT
"Facile Vega - 4.25 Leop @1.84 to win £11"


lets see what this looks like with my new toy.

Good luck



Leopardstown  16:25 -- 2m Grd2 INHF                      £52,681 Matched


Facile Vega       d:41 1.67 1.68 1.69   1.7   1.72   1.73   £32,295
F: 1            a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr P. W. Mullins / W. P. Mullins   £68 £234 £153     £58 £54 £370  
Itswhatunitesus       d:63 4.7 4.8 4.9   5   5.1   5.2   £11,786
F: 1            a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr J. J. Codd / Gordon Elliott   £52 £79 £81     £161 £3 £13  
Sandor Clegane       d:62 11.5 12 12.5   13.5   14   15   £3,422
F: 1            a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr B. O'Neill / Paul Nolan   £19 £4 £5     £7 £51 £18  
The Big Doyen       d:83 12.5 13 13.5   14.5   15   15.5   £3,519
F: 11           a:5 w:12-0 or:   Mr D. O'Connor / Peter Fahey   £6 £15 £14     £5 £13 £16  
Embassy Gardens       d:40 30 32 34   38   40   42   £849
F: 1            a:6 w:11-11 or:   Miss J. Townend / W. P. Mullins   £18 £6 £8     £4 £8 £13  
Carnfunnock       d:81 23 28 40   50   55   60   £593
F: 31           a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr B. G. Crawford / Stuart Crawford   £4 £4 £8     £9 £5 £4  
Da Capo Glory       d:105 100 110 140   180   200   970   £218
F: 3-51         a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr D. Allen / P. Butler   £3 £3 £4     £25 £6 £7  
Report Shanelee1966 February 5, 2022 11:15 PM GMT
Old Port - 3.25 Kemp @2.2

Profit £34
Report Shanelee1966 February 5, 2022 11:17 PM GMT
La Tihaty - 4.00 Kemp @2.02
Report Escapee February 6, 2022 1:18 PM GMT
Good luck


Kempton  15:25 -- 1m3f Hcap                      £14,988 Matched


4 (3)   Old Port       d:15 2.52 2.54 2.56   2.6   2.62   2.64   £7,499
F: 533-11       a:4 w:9-4 or:83   George Downing / David Evans   £23 £50 £15     £8 £12 £11  
3 (2)   Prince Of Harts       d:11 4.2 4.3 4.4   4.5   4.6   4.7   £1,822
F: 35233-1      a:6 w:9-7 or:85   Ross Coakley / Rod Millman   £30 £11 £49     £17 £97 £169  
1 (4)   Anythingtoday       d:15 7.6 7.8 8   8.2   8.4   8.6   £3,472
F: 31100-9      a:8 w:9-13 or:91   Harry Davies(7) / George Boughey   £129 £45 £45     £35 £6 £16  
7 (6)   Precisely       d:15 9.8 10 10.5   12   12.5   13   £805
F: 26013-8      a:5 w:8-12 or:76   Luke Morris / John Butler   £6 £10 £7     £18 £5 £6  
2 (7)   Clap Your Hands       d:20 12 12.5 13   13.5   14   15   £730
F: 115/3-3      a:6 w:9-10 or:88   Callum Shepherd / David Simcock   £12 £11 £17     £19 £5 £3  
6 (5)   Alternative Fact       d:123 13.5 14 14.5   15   15.5   16   £466
F: 986056-      a:7 w:9-3 or:81   Hollie Doyle / Alan King   £13 £9 £9     £3 £15 £23  
5 (1)   Affwonn       d:168 27 28 29   32   34   42   £195
F: 1/40-        a:5 w:9-4 or:82   Daniel Muscutt / Alexandra Dunn   £5 £5 £10     £3 £14 £6  



and




Kempton  16:00 -- 1m Hcap                      £16,938 Matched


3 (1)   La Tihaty       d:32 1.97 1.98 1.99   2   2.04   2.06   £10,316
F: 2/11-1       a:4 w:8-11 or:95   Jack Mitchell / Roger Varian   £15 £27 £16     £192 £31 £23  
4 (3)   Karibana       d:130 5.8 5.9 6   6.2   6.4   6.6   £2,394
F: 100332-      a:5 w:8-11 or:95   George Rooke(3) / Richard Hughes   £13 £29 £17     £24 £28 £157  
1 (8)   Misty Grey       d:42 7.8 8.2 8.4   8.6   8.8   9   £1,054
F: 11/3421-     a:5 w:9-8 or:106   Richard Kingscote / Tom Dascombe   £6 £10 £11     £4 £14 £9  
7 (10)   Bugle Major       d:130 15 15.5 16   17   17.5   18   £1,213
F: 505226-      a:7 w:8-6 or:90   Kieran O'Neill / Richard Hughes   £15 £4 £15     £6 £3 £26  
8 (5)   On A Session       d:19 16.5 17 17.5   19   19.5   21   £728
F: 70247-6      a:6 w:8-5 or:89   Hollie Doyle / David Barron   £4 £4 £4     £7 £6 £2  
5 (9)   Revolutionise       d:30 16.5 17.5 18   18.5   19   19.5   £641
F: 33278-2      a:6 w:8-9 or:93   Marco Ghiani / Stuart Williams   £5 £14 £3     £6 £2 £4  
9 (6)   Soar Above       d:28 30 32 36   38   40   42   £294
F: 05170-6      a:7 w:8-3 or:87   Laura Pearson(3) / John Butler   £3 £3 £9     £2 £2 £4  
2 (4)   Oh This Is Us       d:99 40 42 44   50   55   60   £244
F: 084409-      a:9 w:9-7 or:105   Alec Voikhansky(7) / Richard Hannon   £3 £2 £4     £7 £11 £5  
6 (2)   Seventh Kingdom       d:20 70 85 95   150   260   550   £53
F: 34/337-8     a:4 w:8-6 or:90   Callum Shepherd / Jamie Osborne   £7 £2 £5     £6 £2 £3  
Report Shanelee1966 February 6, 2022 3:56 PM GMT
Not a good start to the day
Report politicspunter February 6, 2022 5:38 PM GMT
Sorry, am I missing something here? First of all, what is the point of this thread being on here instead of the horse racing forum? Secondly, the OP has said he has had 30/40 "methods" which have all lost, so why does he think that just laying short priced favourites at random can be a winning system long term? It can't.
Report Escapee February 7, 2022 12:06 PM GMT
From the imitation game film:

the admiral is interviewing Turing, and telling him.

"The Polish, French, Americans and every goddamn boffin we have think
it can't be done (Decipher Enigma)".

Good, So give it to me then and we'll know for sure.

Happy





I know it can be done.
Report politicspunter February 7, 2022 2:04 PM GMT
Not by laying an endless stream of short priced favourites and hoping to get lucky, it can't.
Report swift-tuttle June 24, 2022 4:51 PM BST
I think you were on the right track Shane but my preference would have been to include an in-running back for a few ticks above the lay price. The back stake  not intended to 'green up' but to reduce potential losses on the lay thereby securing a better lay price for less return.
The Art Of Legging says that shorties must be laid but it also says that one horse lays are not the answer. So my suggestion or laying another horse in the same race is worth considering.
Report Shanelee1966 June 24, 2022 8:38 PM BST
Thanks for the advice st. I`ve given up on laying for a while.

Working on 2 backing systems last 4/5 months.
Doing well so far, been my selections in naps comp, 3 months
in profit to sp, small profit so far this month.
Report Shanelee1966 June 24, 2022 8:39 PM BST
I noticed you impressive total this month Cool
Report Shanelee1966 June 24, 2022 8:39 PM BST
* your
Report swift-tuttle June 24, 2022 8:56 PM BST
Best of luck Shane
Report Shanelee1966 June 24, 2022 9:49 PM BST
Working on a Lucky 15 ststen at moment CrazyCrazyCrazy
Report Shanelee1966 June 24, 2022 9:49 PM BST
system, i need glasses.
Report Shanelee1966 June 24, 2022 9:59 PM BST
3.10 Ches - Gabrial The Devil
3.30 Newc - Who Dares Wins
4.38 Newc - Safe Voyage
6.15 Ling - Power On

Lucky 15
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