Bank 1 £426.81 (01) Lay Watford 1v0 Birmingham (PRE KO) @ 12.0 W £36.86 £463.67 (02) Lay Nancy (IP 0v1 Toulouse) @ 7.2 W £71.04 £534.71 (03) Lay THE DRAW (IP Espanyol 1v0 Zaragoza) @ 5.7 W £108.08 £672.79 (04) Lay Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 4.7 W £177.54 £850.33 (05) Lay Stoke 1v0 Arsenal @ 11.5 (PRE KO) £76.93 £927.26 (06) Lay Liverpool 0v2 Man City (PRE KO) @ 15.0 W £62.92 £990.18 (07) Lay Osasina 2v1 Barcelona (IP Osasuna 1v0) @ 16.0 W £62.71 £1052.89
Bank 2 £426.81 (01) Lay Chelsea 1v0 Newcastle (PRE KO) @ 9.8 W £46.07 £472.88 (02) Lay HT/FT Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 9.2 W £54.79 £525.67 (03) Lay Kaiserslautern 1v2 1860 Munich (PRE KO) @ 17.0 W £31.21 £556.88 (040 Lay PSG 2v0 Bordeaux (IP 0v0) @ 8.8 Possible Profit £67.82
Bank 3 £500 (01) Lay Silkeborg (IP FC Midtjylland 1v0) @ 11. W £47.50 £547.50 (02) Lay AC Milan 3v0 Sampdoria (IP 0v0) @ 16.0 W £34.68 £582.18 (03) Back INTER (IP Pescara 0v2) @ 1.12 Possible Profit £66.37
Bank 4 £500 (01) Lay UNQ (IP Liverpool 2v1 Man City) @ 18.0 W £27.94 £527.94
Bank 1 £426.81(01) Lay Watford 1v0 Birmingham (PRE KO) @ 12.0 W £36.86 £463.67(02) Lay Nancy (IP 0v1 Toulouse) @ 7.2 W £71.04 £534.71(03) Lay THE DRAW (IP Espanyol 1v0 Zaragoza) @ 5.7 W £108.08 £672.79(04) Lay Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 4.7 W
Bank 1 £426.81 (01) Lay Watford 1v0 Birmingham (PRE KO) @ 12.0 W £36.86 £463.67 (02) Lay Nancy (IP 0v1 Toulouse) @ 7.2 W £71.04 £534.71 (03) Lay THE DRAW (IP Espanyol 1v0 Zaragoza) @ 5.7 W £108.08 £672.79 (04) Lay Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 4.7 W £177.54 £850.33 (05) Lay Stoke 1v0 Arsenal @ 11.5 (PRE KO) £76.93 £927.26 (06) Lay Liverpool 0v2 Man City (PRE KO) @ 15.0 W £62.92 £990.18 (07) Lay Osasina 2v1 Barcelona (IP Osasuna 1v0) @ 16.0 W £62.71 £1052.89
Bank 2 £426.81 (01) Lay Chelsea 1v0 Newcastle (PRE KO) @ 9.8 W £46.07 £472.88 (02) Lay HT/FT Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 9.2 W £54.79 £525.67 (03) Lay Kaiserslautern 1v2 1860 Munich (PRE KO) @ 17.0 W £31.21 £556.88 (040 Lay PSG 2v0 Bordeaux (IP 0v0) @ 8.8 Possible Profit £67.82
Bank 3 £500 (01) Lay Silkeborg (IP FC Midtjylland 1v0) @ 11. W £47.50 £547.50 (02) Lay AC Milan 3v0 Sampdoria (IP 0v0) @ 16.0 W £34.68 £582.18 (03) Back INTER (IP Pescara 0v2) @ 1.12 Possible Profit £66.37
Bank 4 £500 (01) Lay UNQ (IP Liverpool 2v1 Man City) @ 18.0 W £27.94 £527.94 (02) Lay Atalanta (IP 0v1 Lazio) @ 8.2 Possible Profit £69.65
Bank 1 £426.81(01) Lay Watford 1v0 Birmingham (PRE KO) @ 12.0 W £36.86 £463.67(02) Lay Nancy (IP 0v1 Toulouse) @ 7.2 W £71.04 £534.71(03) Lay THE DRAW (IP Espanyol 1v0 Zaragoza) @ 5.7 W £108.08 £672.79(04) Lay Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 4.7 W
Bank 1 £426.81 (01) Lay Watford 1v0 Birmingham (PRE KO) @ 12.0 W £36.86 £463.67 (02) Lay Nancy (IP 0v1 Toulouse) @ 7.2 W £71.04 £534.71 (03) Lay THE DRAW (IP Espanyol 1v0 Zaragoza) @ 5.7 W £108.08 £672.79 (04) Lay Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 4.7 W £177.54 £850.33 (05) Lay Stoke 1v0 Arsenal @ 11.5 (PRE KO) £76.93 £927.26 (06) Lay Liverpool 0v2 Man City (PRE KO) @ 15.0 W £62.92 £990.18 (07) Lay Osasuna 2v1 Barcelona (IP Osasuna 1v0) @ 16.0 W £62.71 £1052.89 (08) Lay PALERMO (IP 0v1 Napoli) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £86.97
Bank 2 £426.81 (01) Lay Chelsea 1v0 Newcastle (PRE KO) @ 9.8 W £46.07 £472.88 (02) Lay HT/FT Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 9.2 W £54.79 £525.67 (03) Lay Kaiserslautern 1v2 1860 Munich (PRE KO) @ 17.0 W £31.21 £556.88 (040 Lay PSG 2v0 Bordeaux (IP 0v0) @ 8.8 Possible Profit £67.82
Bank 3 £500 (01) Lay Silkeborg (IP FC Midtjylland 1v0) @ 11. W £47.50 £547.50 (02) Lay AC Milan 3v0 Sampdoria (IP 0v0) @ 16.0 W £34.68 £582.18 (03) Back INTER (IP Pescara 0v2) @ 1.12 Possible Profit £66.37
Bank 4 £500 (01) Lay UNQ (IP Liverpool 2v1 Man City) @ 18.0 W £27.94 £527.94 (02) Lay Atalanta (IP 0v1 Lazio) @ 8.2 Possible Profit £69.65
Bank 1 £426.81(01) Lay Watford 1v0 Birmingham (PRE KO) @ 12.0 W £36.86 £463.67(02) Lay Nancy (IP 0v1 Toulouse) @ 7.2 W £71.04 £534.71(03) Lay THE DRAW (IP Espanyol 1v0 Zaragoza) @ 5.7 W £108.08 £672.79(04) Lay Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 4.7 W
Bank 1 £426.81 (01) Lay Watford 1v0 Birmingham (PRE KO) @ 12.0 W £36.86 £463.67 (02) Lay Nancy (IP 0v1 Toulouse) @ 7.2 W £71.04 £534.71 (03) Lay THE DRAW (IP Espanyol 1v0 Zaragoza) @ 5.7 W £108.08 £672.79 (04) Lay Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 4.7 W £177.54 £850.33 (05) Lay Stoke 1v0 Arsenal @ 11.5 (PRE KO) £76.93 £927.26 (06) Lay Liverpool 0v2 Man City (PRE KO) @ 15.0 W £62.92 £990.18 (07) Lay Osasuna 2v1 Barcelona (IP Osasuna 1v0) @ 16.0 W £62.71 £1052.89 (08) Lay PALERMO (IP 0v1 Napoli) @ 12.5 W £86.97 £1134.86
Bank 2 £426.81 (01) Lay Chelsea 1v0 Newcastle (PRE KO) @ 9.8 W £46.07 £472.88 (02) Lay HT/FT Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 9.2 W £54.79 £525.67 (03) Lay Kaiserslautern 1v2 1860 Munich (PRE KO) @ 17.0 W £31.21 £556.88 (04) Lay PSG 2v0 Bordeaux (IP 0v0) @ 8.8 W £67.82 £624.70
Bank 3 £500 (01) Lay Silkeborg (IP FC Midtjylland 1v0) @ 11. W £47.50 £547.50 (02) Lay AC Milan 3v0 Sampdoria (IP 0v0) @ 16.0 W £34.68 £582.18 (03) Back INTER (IP Pescara 0v2) @ 1.12 W £66.37 £648.55
Bank 4 £500 (01) Lay UNQ (IP Liverpool 2v1 Man City) @ 18.0 W £27.94 £527.94 (02) Lay Atalanta (IP 0v1 Lazio) @ 8.2 W £69.65 £597.59
Start Bank £1000 Cuurent Bank £3005.70 (9 Days)
Bank 1 £426.81(01) Lay Watford 1v0 Birmingham (PRE KO) @ 12.0 W £36.86 £463.67(02) Lay Nancy (IP 0v1 Toulouse) @ 7.2 W £71.04 £534.71(03) Lay THE DRAW (IP Espanyol 1v0 Zaragoza) @ 5.7 W £108.08 £672.79(04) Lay Mallorca (IP Malaga 0v0) @ 4.7 W
Going to split Current Bank into 5 seperate banks now:
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 Possible Profit £33.59
Bank 2 £601.12 Bank 3 £601.12 Bank 4 £601.12 Bank 5 £601.12
Going to split Current Bank into 5 seperate banks now:Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 Possible Profit £33.59 Bank 2 £601.12Bank 3 £601.12Bank 4 £601.12Bank 5 £601.12
laying/betting to fixed liability: +3.1 pts (5.56% ROI)
laying to fixed stake/betting to win fixed stake: +26.55 pts (5.06% ROI)
avg lay price: 9.85 avg bet price: 1.12
above figures include 5% commission. Interesting to see how long you can stay around the 5% ROI. Are you finding value to get the 5% or you think it's luck? Your bank is now 3000, laying/betting to fixed 5% of bank (150), find 40 bets a week = 6000 turnover. 5% ROI is 300 profit a week, then you can compound, week by week. If you have an edge, you don't need to stake like you are, esp now you have a decent bank. Just my opinion, good luck.
hi TOTGA your scores so far;56 bets; 53 wins (94.7% SR)laying/betting to fixed liability: +3.1 pts (5.56% ROI)laying to fixed stake/betting to win fixed stake: +26.55 pts (5.06% ROI)avg lay price: 9.85avg bet price: 1.12above figures include 5% commi
iqmc- many thanks for your post and thank you for taking time to look through the results.
It is most certainly a very interesting read.
In all honesty, i am unsure whether i am finding value in any of my bets but i do spend at least 3-4 hours researching my bets for each specific day and never steer away from my selections.
I suppose in all honesty i am pretty much backing between 1.06 - 1.2 on most of my bets but i have never had a strong enough strike rate in backing at these odds so i have always favoured the laying of the C/S market.
Buzzer has always said that i have been staking too high but in all honesty i am not very good with staking plans etc, could you elaborate a bit on the above?! (having a bit of a blonde moment!).
One thing that i do know is that if i was to take a hit i would be devastated and it is somethimes that emotion that makes me go on to hit further losing bets!!
Im very interested to read your bit about 40 bets a week, what strike rate would i need to make £300 per week?, i suppose it would all be down to the odds etc??.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, i have been on here for nearly 5 years and are yet to master the correct staking system for the above which is one of the main reasons why i have continued like this for so long!, it hasnt always been theis good though as the first couple of years i found it very tough but the more work you put in to C/S selection, the greater the rewards.
iqmc- many thanks for your post and thank you for taking time to look through the results.It is most certainly a very interesting read.In all honesty, i am unsure whether i am finding value in any of my bets but i do spend at least 3-4 hours research
I can understand you wanting to build your bank but are you not going to withdraw some of that profit? 2k profit in 9 days! I would be withdrawing some of that with a big smile on my face
TOTGA, fantastic work and fantastic profits! I can understand you wanting to build your bank but are you not going to withdraw some of that profit? 2k profit in 9 days! I would be withdrawing some of that with a big smile on my face
40 bets a week, you would need the same strike-rate to make 300 a week, using 150 stakes. Basically you can lose 1 in twenty. In an ideal world you would hit 19 winners and then the loser, but it doesn't work like that, you can hit winning streaks of 50 and the next day lay 3 winners in 10. This is the real test when you have the bad day, to carry on regardless, doing the same and using the same stakes, when you know it will take you at least a week to recover the loss. But if you have an edge and stay patient, you can average 300 a week.
Using only 5% of bank per bet (150 in your case) means you have twenty chances basically. Using only 5% means you can cope with the inevitable losing runs. Some may say with your odds, 5% is too conservative, but if you are unsure if you have an edge, then 5% is good, because if your edge or luck disappears, you are still gonna be in profit, at least have your 1000 start bank left and you can re-evaluate.
I am not a believer in staking plans, only level stakes works for me. The proffessional approach is to lay each bet for 150 liability, then each time you have an increase in bank, raise the stake. EG bank 4000, stake 200.
Of course it's not as fun this way But you said you would be devastated if you have a big hit now. If you want to carry on the same, maybe spend a grand on something nice, start again with a grand and have a grand back-up. My way, if you get 5 hits in a row, you are only gonna lose 750.
If you are not comparing prices, yours with BF, then its hard to say if you have an edge. Maybe subconsciously you are finding value (particularly IP). Only after a few hundred bets will you find out. My suggestion of staking will keep you in the game long enough to find out.
40 bets a week, you would need the same strike-rate to make 300 a week, using 150 stakes. Basically you can lose 1 in twenty. In an ideal world you would hit 19 winners and then the loser, but it doesn't work like that, you can hit winning streaks of
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 Possible Profit £66.99
Bank 2 £601.12 Bank 3 £601.12 Bank 4 £601.12 Bank 5 £601.12
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 Possible Profit £66.99Bank 2 £601.12Bank 3 £601.12Bank 4 £601.12Bank 5 £601.12
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 Possible Profit £66.99
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £49.66
Bank 3 £601.12 Bank 4 £601.12 Bank 5 £601.12
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 Possible Profit £66.99Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £49.66Bank 3
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 *pending*
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77
Bank 3 £601.12 Bank 4 £601.12 Bank 5 £601.12
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 *pending*Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77Bank 3
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 *pending*
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 Possible Profit £83.54
Bank 3 £601.12 Bank 4 £601.12 Bank 5 £601.12
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 *pending*Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77(02) L
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31
Bank 3 £601.12 Bank 4 £601.12 Bank 5 £601.12
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77(02) Lay Estudi
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £57.96
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31 (03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 Possible Profit £48.11
Bank 3 £601.12 Bank 4 £601.12 Bank 5 £601.12
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £57.96Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP L
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £57.96
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31 (03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 Possible Profit £48.11
Bank 3 £601.12 (01) Lay Nottm Forest 0v1 Wigan (PRE KO) @ 10.0 Possible Profit £63.45
Bank 4 £601.12 (01) Lay Stevenage 0v0 Southanpton (PRE KO) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £49.66
Bank 5 £601.12
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £57.96Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP L
1)newcastle vs tottenham lay AU @11 won 2)ipswich vs blackburn lay 0-0 won 3)lay AU @10.5 everton vs man united won 4)blackburn vs hull lay 0-0 @12 won 5)man united vs fulham lay 1-1 @13.5 won 6)blackburn vs leicester lay 0-0 @12.5 won 7) mk dons vs blackburn lay 0-0 (IPHT) @4.7 ????
1)newcastle vs tottenham lay AU @11 won2)ipswich vs blackburn lay 0-0 won3)lay AU @10.5 everton vs man united won4)blackburn vs hull lay 0-0 @12 won5)man united vs fulham lay 1-1 @13.5 won 6)blackburn vs leicester lay 0-0 @12.5 won7) mk dons vs bla
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £57.96
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31 (03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 Possible Profit £48.11
Bank 3 £601.12 (01) Lay Nottm Forest 0v1 Wigan (PRE KO) @ 10.0 Possible Profit £63.45
Bank 4 £601.12 (01) Lay Stevenage 0v0 Southanpton (PRE KO) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £49.66
Bank 5 £601.12 (01) Lay FULHAM (IP Sheff Wed 1v0) @ 7.0 Possible Profit £95.17
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 Possible Profit £57.96Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP L
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £57.96 £759.66
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31 (03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 W £48.11 £782.42
Bank 3 £601.12 (01) Lay Nottm Forest 0v1 Wigan (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £63.45 £664.57
Bank 4 £601.12 (01) Lay Stevenage 0v0 Southanpton (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.78
Bank 5 £601.12 (01) Lay FULHAM (IP Sheff Wed 1v0) @ 7.0 W £95.17 £696.29
Start Bank £1000 Current Bank £3553.72 (12 Days)
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £57.96 £759.66Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP Lisbon
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £57.96 £759.66
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31 (03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 W £48.11 £782.42
Bank 3 £601.12 (01) Lay Nottm Forest 0v1 Wigan (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £63.45 £664.57
Bank 4 £601.12 (01) Lay Stevenage 0v0 Southanpton (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.78 (02) Lay Guarani SP 0v0 Parana (PRE KO @ 11.0-11.5 Possible Profit £58.13
Bank 5 £601.12 (01) Lay FULHAM (IP Sheff Wed 1v0) @ 7.0 W £95.17 £696.29
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £57.96 £759.66Bank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP Lisbon
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £57.96 £759.66 (04) Lay Celtic 2v0 Helsingborg (IP 0v0) @ 7.8 Possible Profit £106.12
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31 (03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 W £48.11 £782.42
Bank 3 £601.12 (01) Lay Nottm Forest 0v1 Wigan (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £63.45 £664.57
Bank 4 £601.12 (£0) (01) Lay Stevenage 0v0 Southanpton (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.78 (02) Lay Guarani SP 0v0 Parana (PRE KO @ 11.0-11.5 L £58.13 £0
Bank 5 £601.12 (01) Lay FULHAM (IP Sheff Wed 1v0) @ 7.0 W £95.17 £696.29
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £57.96 £759.66(04) Lay Celtic 2v0 Helsingborg (
Bank 1 £601.12 (01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71 (02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £57.96 £759.66 (04) Lay Celtic 2v0 Helsingborg (IP 0v0) @ 7.8 Possible Profit £106.12
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31 (03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 W £48.11 £782.42 (04) Lay THE DRAW (IP Lille 1v0 Copenhagen) @ 9.0 Possible Profit £92.91
Bank 3 £601.12 (01) Lay Nottm Forest 0v1 Wigan (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £63.45 £664.57
Bank 4 £601.12 (£0) (01) Lay Stevenage 0v0 Southanpton (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.78 (02) Lay Guarani SP 0v0 Parana (PRE KO @ 11.0-11.5 L £58.13 £0
Bank 5 £601.12 (01) Lay FULHAM (IP Sheff Wed 1v0) @ 7.0 W £95.17 £696.29 (02) Lay FC Basel (IP CFR Cluj 1v0) 8.0 Possible Profit £94.50
Bank 1 £601.12(01) Lay HT/FT Deportivo (PRE KO Valencia v) @ 18.0 W £33.59 £634.71(02) Lay Ath Madrid 1v1 Ath Bilbao (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £66.99 £701.70 (03) Lay Anderlecht 3v0 AEL (PRE KO) @ 12.5 W £57.96 £759.66(04) Lay Celtic 2v0 Helsingborg (
1) Palermo - Napoli - Lay 0-1 @2 (IP 71') 2) Fenerbahce - Spartak M - Lay 0-1 @5 (IP 2nd Half) 3) Real Madrid - Barcelona - Lay the DRAW @10 (2-0 IP 20')
Bank: 501) Palermo - Napoli - Lay 0-1 @2 (IP 71')2) Fenerbahce - Spartak M - Lay 0-1 @5 (IP 2nd Half) 3) Real Madrid - Barcelona - Lay the DRAW @10 (2-0 IP 20')
TOTGA You are still, massively, overstaking. You had a good run to get to over 3k and you should have reigned it in and staked to lose, at most, 5% of your bank. You're still ahead but, if you want to run this for the season not just a month or so, you need to rethink your liabilities on each bet. You may be excellent at this but, the way you're going, you're never going to find out. Many a decent punter has probably put him/herself out of the game because of poor money management.
TOTGAYou are still, massively, overstaking. You had a good run to get to over 3k and you should have reigned it in and staked to lose, at most, 5% of your bank. You're still ahead but, if you want to run this for the season not just a month or so, yo
Hi Guys, Ive been super surprised by my Husband who is taking me on Holiady for our 1 year anniversary this weekend. I will be gone for a week and will give me time to re-think the strategy.
Buzzer- thanks for your words, i shall be returning next week with a better staking plan.
Elvis- im not sure if i have an edge but i have done well these past couple of weeks! love your name by the way!!
Hi Guys, Ive been super surprised by my Husband who is taking me on Holiady for our 1 year anniversary this weekend. I will be gone for a week and will give me time to re-think the strategy.Buzzer- thanks for your words, i shall be returning next w
1) newcastle vs tottenham lay AU @11 won 2) ipswich vs blackburn lay 0-0 won 3) lay AU @10.5 everton vs man united won 4) blackburn vs hull lay 0-0 @12 won 5) man united vs fulham lay 1-1 @13.5 won 6) blackburn vs leicester lay 0-0 @12.5 won 7) mk dons vs blackburn lay 0-0 (IPHT) @4.7 won 8) leeds vs blackburn lay 0-0 ???? 9) leicester vs blackpool lay 0-0 ????
they are my two for the weekend might find some more. blackburn haven't drawn 0-0 since april 2011. still going
have a nice holiday totga1) newcastle vs tottenham lay AU @11 won2) ipswich vs blackburn lay 0-0 won3) lay AU @10.5 everton vs man united won4) blackburn vs hull lay 0-0 @12 won5) man united vs fulham lay 1-1 @13.5 won 6) blackburn vs leicester lay
Bet 11: managed to transform my LAY AUQ into LAY 3-0 around 77' (mobile) but since I did not publish it here I will consider this challenge ended ... might start a new one soon
Bet 11: managed to transform my LAY AUQ into LAY 3-0 around 77' (mobile) but since I did not publish it here I will consider this challenge ended ... might start a new one soon
Bank 2 £601.12 (01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77 (02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31 (03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 W £48.11 £782.42 (04) Lay THE DRAW (IP Lille 1v0 Copenhagen) @ 9.0 W £92.91 £875.33 (05) Lay Barcelona (IP R. Madrid 1v0) @ 6.0 W £166.31 £1041.64 (06) Lay Liverpool (IP Sunderland 1v0) @ 6.0 W £208.32 £1249.96 (07) Lay THE DRAW (IP Getafe 0v1 Barcelona) @ 9.2 W £144.81 1394.77 (08) Lay AC Milan (IP 0V1 Atalanta) @ 14.0 W £101.94 £1496.71 (09) Back UNDER 4.5 Goals (IP Sevilla 1v0 RM) @ 1.1 W £142.19 £1638.90
Bank 3 £601.12 (01) Lay Nottm Forest 0v1 Wigan (PRE KO) @ 10.0 W £63.45 £664.57 (02) Lay Cagliari (IP Palermo 1v0 @ HT) @ 13.0 W £55.36 £719.93 (03) Lay AC Milan 1v1 Atalanta (IP 0v0 HT) @ 9.2 W £83.40 £803.33 (04) Lay Sevilla 1v2 (IP Sevilla 1v0 RM) @ 7.6 W £115.62 £918.95
Bank 4 (£0) BUST
Bank 5 £601.12 (01) Lay FULHAM (IP Sheff Wed 1v0) @ 7.0 W £95.17 £696.29 (02) Lay FC Basel (IP CFR Cluj 1v0) 8.0 W £94.50 £790.79 (03) Lay HT/FT Draw/Sevilla (PRE KO) @ 14.0 W £57.79 £848.58
Current Bank £3406.43
Nearly 1k profit in a few hours!, i got very nervous with the AC Milan game and i think it has given me a whole new perspective on this type of betting. Could of quite easily ended up with a loss today but i feel that i got extremely lucky.
Going to combine my banks now, having made nearly 2.5k profit in less than a month and start to look at better staking plans.
Any suggestions.....
Bank 1 £0 BUSTBank 2 £601.12(01) Lay SP Lisbon 1v2 Rio Ave (IP 0v1) @ 12.5 W £49.66 £650.77(02) Lay Estudiantes 0v0 Colon (PRE KO) @ 8.4 W £83.54 £734.31(03) Lay Panathinaikos 2v0 Malaga (PRE KO) @ 15.5 W £48.11 £782.42(04) Lay THE DRAW (IP L
I am now thinking about trying to increase my bank by 3-5% per week.
I was considering using 10% of my bank £340.64 and backing/ laying until i hit a 50% increase of that stake (£170.32).
This would mean being more selective with my bets.
If i hit a losing bet, i then use 20% of my bank (£681.28) to try and re-coup my losses, when i increase this by 50% (£340.64) i then revert back to using 10% of my stake again until i increase that by 50%???.
I suppose this is a bit of a 'martingale' type theory but i personally believe that i ahve the ability to achieve this in the long run.
Has anyone ever used a staking plan like this before??.
Start Bank £1000Current Bank £3406.43I am now thinking about trying to increase my bank by 3-5% per week.I was considering using 10% of my bank £340.64 and backing/ laying until i hit a 50% increase of that stake (£170.32).This would mean being m
Or might it be better to use 5% of my bank (£170.32) and try to increase this by 50% (£85.16), and doing this twice to achieve the 5% bank increase?.
This would mean that i would have more opportunities in achieving it within the suggestive staking plan...
1st Bet 5% £170.32 if loses, 2nd Bet 10% £340.64 if loses, 3rd Bet 25% £851.61
Looking through my records i have never hit a 3 bet losing streak.......
Or might it be better to use 5% of my bank (£170.32) and try to increase this by 50% (£85.16), and doing this twice to achieve the 5% bank increase?.This would mean that i would have more opportunities in achieving it within the suggestive staking
You want to make 5% of bank Per week? What is wrong with 20 bets a week using 5% LEVEL stakes? If you have a 10% edge you Will make around 5% profit a week (betfair take the rest). These are average figures, nobody Wins every week. So drop the target, forget the betfair balance and play the game.
Never had 3 consecutive losers, martingale, staking plans, chasing losses, targets, etc...only ends one way.
Actually i use Maria stakes when laying (greyhounds), a slight variant of level stakes. 1% lay stake 3.5sp and under, 0.6% 3.6-7.4 and 0.4% 7.6-9.8. I don't lay double figures, so my stakes fluctuate between 2.5 and 3.6%. But crucially, i never have more than 4% in play. Infact I very rarely lay just one dog either so my average risk is just 2% Per race, including lays, backs and trades.
You want to make 5% of bank Per week? What is wrong with 20 bets a week using 5% LEVEL stakes? If you have a 10% edge you Will make around 5% profit a week (betfair take the rest). These are average figures, nobody Wins every week. So drop the target
looks like you have to lay double figures with correct-scores so will use 0.3% lay stakes for 10+sp
2. lay €9 0-2 @11.5 Rea v Tot 3. lay €30 0-0 ht @3.5 Aalborg v Randers 4. lay €9 UNQ @12.5 Brøndby v Horsens
looks like you have to lay double figures with correct-scores so will use 0.3% lay stakes for 10+sp2. lay €9 0-2 @11.5 Rea v Tot3. lay €30 0-0 ht @3.5 Aalborg v Randers4. lay €9 UNQ @12.5 Brøndby v Horsens
Will start from Monday using the above and look at upodating the P/L Weekly as opposed to daily.
What sports is it that you specialise in?
I like it IQMC.Will start from Monday using the above and look at upodating the P/L Weekly as opposed to daily.What sports is it that you specialise in?
I can't count. 8 out of 8 so far. I can afford to lose one now and break even, no margin for error in this lay correct score game
9. lay €9 0-1 @11.5 Che v Juve 10. lay €9 1-0 @10.5 MU v Gala
I can't count. 8 out of 8 so far. I can afford to lose one now and break even, no margin for error in this lay correct score game 9. lay €9 0-1 @11.5 Che v Juve10. lay €9 1-0 @10.5 MU v Gala
11. lay €12 1-0 @9 NK Maribor v Panathinaikos 12. lay €9 0-1 @12 R Vienna v Rosenborg 13. lay €12 1-0 @9.4 Tot v Lazio 14. lay €9 2-1 @13 and €9 UNQ @16 Young B v Liverpool 15. lay €9 0-1 @17.5 and €12 UNQ @9 FCK v Molde 16. lay €9 0-0 @11.5 and €9 0-1 Fenerbahce v Marseille
9 out of 10. Europa games;11. lay €12 1-0 @9 NK Maribor v Panathinaikos12. lay €9 0-1 @12 R Vienna v Rosenborg13. lay €12 1-0 @9.4 Tot v Lazio14. lay €9 2-1 @13 and €9 UNQ @16 Young B v Liverpool15. lay €9 0-1 @17.5 and €12 UNQ @9 FCK v
14 out of 16. Liverpool reserves are obviously better than their first team. Struggling to see the value in laying double figure odds, there is literally no room for error. For example if I want to risk 4.5 points to win 0.3 points laying Liverpool Unquoted last night, surely a better way is to bet 0.3 on under 2.5 goals, as the goal expectancy was low. I think you have to put a max odds of 10 in. Anyway, on I go. Where is the op?
17. lay €12 0-1 ht @7.6 Blackburn v Midd
14 out of 16. Liverpool reserves are obviously better than their first team. Struggling to see the value in laying double figure odds, there is literally no room for error. For example if I want to risk 4.5 points to win 0.3 points laying Liverpool U