Poker tries to ban them i think, based on some other metrics like this guy has been playing for 3 days or something. There are no API for poker sites and they still get through.

Poker and chess are different to sports betting which is more like stocks imo people have an opinion rather than pure probability/logic play.

The other thing the API does, a built in design feature apparently, is crash and burn heavily leaving  its users stranded on a saturday afternoon

It went pear shaped from 2:05ish to 2:25ish today and has went pear shaped again.

Current status as far as I can see : pear shaped.

If you ARE connected, I suggest double checking any markets are up to date : one of the things it's been doing today is not updating it.

Came up again. Down again. Up again. Down again. Up and down like a ..  petticoat of a woman of ill repute.

Lori,
An API bot takes data from the API, the same data stripped down from the webpage, but at a faster speed and friendlier interface and displays it in the software or spreadsheet.
Take a look at The Geeks Toy which is free and Gruss Betting Assistant.
I use BA and it's cheap as chips for what they provide.
Rather than try and learn from the beginning, why not take a drive or a free trial and look at the videos on youtube.
I don't use it for anything other than laying, I'm not a trader, but it really cuts the time down for bet submissions and navigation is quicker and prices update much faster.

Up and down like a ..  petticoat of a woman of ill repute.

It's always up for them

mean the prices are relecting whats happening on the pitch on the Liverpool game. still plenty of humans, doubt anyone would even realise that the site is bot free if bot users didnt say

would have thought the horseracing players on this thread would have dived in to fill the gap with 120% markets and volumes would be up if bots where banned curious

Brendan "and volumes would be up if bots where banned..."

lol

On the subject of bots as a supposed excuse for the charge hikes aimed at them but at all winners generally, well think of betfair as a farm, growing and buying more land continually that relies on tractors as the workhorses, these tractors in betfair are indeed the many big bot players and on the other side the server infra-structure with API technology purposely designed for the bots to work with.

Now with this farm analogy in mind the farm gets to the point with growth in mind that it has explored all new field areas and crops(global markets and products)and has come to understand that the profits are still thin compared to costs and runs out of ideas, the farmer is consoled that the rising costs of the tractors is the problem and rather than sort the problem out by streamlining his business and expanding organically , he decides to tell the tractor supplier that he will pay less for the replacement and servicing of the tractors(bots and servers)

Now there is heated debate and wrangling between the tractor company and the farmer, to make matters worst all this has been noticed by property dealers and investors who now value his company at half it was before he started losing the plot, some farm workers get miffed and leave the farmer, good workers too, so this adds to the problems. The farmer now has the bright idea of selling off some of his tractors and making profits from these sales but what is the current state of the farmers business?

1.....farm is worth half it was before so its harder to get investment loans.

2.....farmer has more instant money by selling off tractors but with less of them and good workers
      he isn't going to be in good shape in the long run.

3.....some of the tractors are now on the farm next door, his nearest competitor

Anyway if you look at the example I have made what would you make of the state of the farmers business short,mid and long term and what do you think the farmer is playing at?

My personal impression is that the farmer was hoping to sell off the farm as a growing big business but its all gone a bit wrong, still makes a profit but its value is slipping from his target
and selling components of the business and staff are signs that he wants to raise the perceived
long term profitability of the farm to sell it off , anyone got any other opinions ?

lol Bendan, but it could mean that somewhere between the farms conception and its current state that
the farmer having started off with a healthy business became obsessed with growth to the point that
he is purging and harming his core components , while looking great with more cash in his pockets but
knowing that the course he has plotted has altered and needs correction, also he needs to do some fast back tracking to build up relations between his staff and his investors, is the farmer capable of this performance, hmmmm

bff you really are a student of betting and betting theory. would it be fair to say you prefer discussing betting and theories rather actually placing a bet?

Ha ha I do understand crop rotation, certain crops need to be rotated to balance out the the organic worth of the the soil, great point though and what is put into the system in the future or the soil is just as important as what is taken out now but this farmer thinks that there are no organic proccesses
involved with new customer/current customer activity and placement of cash into the new super shark betfair empire;

as most punters are branded with a big hot iron with the words "betfairs cash cows"[;)]

bff my question?

hope you're well today

moo

Sorry paulme, in answer too your previous post, yes I do prefer to talk betting theories but we don't seem to get many threads that are created for this, its all negative mostly do you not agree.

In reference to some posts I made about selecting hot fancies every day and that profit could be made laying them I did some research in horse racing and came to a dramatic conclusion, can you remember the thread/post subject paulme?

no can you link to the the thread bff please

Let me create one so we can have some creativity on the forum for a change[;)]

ha ha it was but theres no profit there so a different thread is needed, put it up soon, hopefully some egg heads may enlighten us.

Personally there I feel there is no magic bullet part of market that is good to lay as BSP is the most accurate market there is, its more to do with bias against the perceived chances allied with certain selections being under-priced relative to poor odds compilation .