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Dec,
Can you explain your staking please. Take the bottom game Fc Saturn v Lunch. It looks like you laid £33 @ 13.5 so a potentail loss of £413.00 If you take ONE hit you wipe out all 4 days profit. If you took 2 hits like that you could wide out 2 weeks future profits. I am concerned by the number of 2-2 draws you are laying. With average odds of about 18/1 a quick £20 becomes £360 loss. |
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Hi squizz -
1. I just stake what I feel is appropriate for each game ...on its merits. The first bet yesterday was a "confident" bet so the staking was larger than bets that followed, generally. 2.......2-2 draws do happen....but on such games where I lay 2-2 I don't believe it will happen in that game. 3. If you get "concerned" re- bets .......you should not make them. As they are my bets.....I am not "concerned" at time of making them...as I believe they are "good" bets. Of course a game can take a turn in it where the 2-2 CAN happen, and yesterday with ROMA game ....it looked as if it might ( IT DID'NT THOUGH.....AS ROMA ONLY HAD 10 PLAYERS LATE ON ETC )so I took a loss on game. Everybody has own way of staking.............I don't as a rule believe in LEVEL STAKING....as it is an inefficient way to bet. You might prefer betting on 1-0 or 0-0 or 0-1 .....which I do too......as odds are lower , so HITS are lower.....BUT REMEMBER THE ODDS REFLECT CHANCES OF THE SCORE HAPPENING....AND 1-0 IS IN MOST LEAGUES MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN THAN 2-2...ETC ETC The key is not picking games where 2-2 happens too often...... If you check BRAZIL results last night...they were FT São Paulo 2 - 1 Guarani View events More info FT Grêmio Prudente 0 - 1 Palmeiras View events More info FT Cruzeiro 2 - 0 Ceará View events More info FT Goiás 1 - 3 Atlético Goian… View events More info FT Vasco da Gama 2 - 2 Botafogo View events More info FT Santos 2 - 3 Corinthians View events More info FT Grêmio 2 - 2 Flamengo View events More info FT Atlético Paran… 1 - 0 Internacional View events The 2 games I picked were 0-1 and 2-0. So they were nowhere near 2-2..... As I am about to bet on HORSES ....I trust above provides some answer to your post. Gl with bets. |
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squizz - You were betting on LEAGUE CUP games in ENGLAND and SCOTLAND.......that would be more of a "concern" for me ....as i such competitios it is harder to guess what might happen IMO........
Do you think betting on such games is a good way to bet? |
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Certainly plenty goals though....
Wed 22/09/10 Chelsea 3 - 4 Newcastle United View events More info Aston Villa 3 - 1 Blackburn Rovers View events More info Scunthorpe United 2 - 5 Manchester United View events More info Wigan Athletic 2 - 1 Preston North End View events More info Liverpool P 2 - 2 P Northampton Town View events More info West Bromwich … 2 - 1 Manchester City 2 results that many would be caught out on in MATCH market. |
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squizz - You were betting on LEAGUE CUP games in ENGLAND and SCOTLAND.......that would be more of a "concern" for me ....as i such competitios it is harder to guess what might happen IMO........
Do you think betting on such games is a good way to bet? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yes I find cup games especially carling throw up some weird results and teams dont try and defend they attack, e.g. Scunthorpe. In fact if you look at any Carling & Scottish results last night each game had at least 3 goals. So my 1-0 0-1 1-1's were always going to win. I think the premesirship averages 2.6 goals a game and that is why I use these scores. But I am with you diffent games differnt odds. I am generally laying 3 games at day trying to win £100 but I take a £300 hit should any game go the wrong way. So I am thinking about laying more games e.g. 10-12 to make £15 a game and If I take a hit on 2 it is not massive to my bank. But I am doing so bad on the scores (or good in the laying sense) so thing that will be the aim. Only thing is liquidity is so bad on some games. Have got 3 lays out there at moment and once laid will post em. |
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GL S
Fixtures 23 September / Astra Ploiesti v Otelul Galati / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 23-Sep-10 14:48 10.5 12.00 10.5 23-Sep-10 14:48 Another ROMANIAN cup tie. 0-0 might be a dodgy lay as home team drew 0-0 last year in comp etc..... However, they seem to concede goals ...so hopefully away team will score. MGOFS is 0-2. Gl with bets. |
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ross county v dundee utd was 1-1 full time 1-2 utd after extra time
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"Always going to win" .......all depends on the game and circumstances S........
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Ok it is not an exact science....we all know that....anything can happen in a game...
I still think if you guessed 72 games without looking at form you would be lucky to get 4/5 correct. |
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Main Bets
Wimbldedon v Crawley Lay 1-1 7.4 for £30 Getafe v Malaga Lay 1-0 8.2 for £30 Villareal v Deportivo 0-0 12 for £27 As a daft test I have not looked at any form or studied anything and laid 5 scores at Random. Now I know this is the road to the poor house but for £2 lays see where we go Caracas FC v Santa Fe 2-1 @ 10.5 Emelec v Uni San Martin 1-0 @ 8.6 Joe Public FC v CSD Municipal (what a team name Joe Public FC) 0-0 @ 15.5 Sion v Neuchatel Xamax 2-1 @ 9.4 Osters v Vasby 1-2 @ 14.5 |
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Fixtures 23 September / Villarreal v Deportivo / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 23-Sep-10
17:20 18.5 12.00 18.5 23-Sep-10 17:20 VR likely to score and probably at least 2 goals in game. MGOFS is 2-1. ==================================================================== Fixtures 23 September / Getafe v Malaga / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 23-Sep-10 17:18 14 12.00 14 23-Sep-10 17:18 GETAFE likely to score or away team ...and my guess on FS is 2-1. ===================================================================== Fixtures 23 September / Gaz Metan Craiova v Steaua Bucharest / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 23-Sep-10 17:04 15.5 12.00 15.05 23-Sep-10 17:04 ROMANIAN cup tie ....and just likely a goal is score. MGOFS is 0-2. ================================================================== Fixtures 23 September / Osters v Vasby / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 23-Sep-10 17:00 17 12.00 17 23-Sep-10 17:00 OSTERS likely to score and probably at least 2 goals in game. MGOFS is 2-1. GL with bets. |
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Fixtures 23 September / AFC Wimbledon v Crawley Town / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 23-Sep-10
19:12 11.5 12.00 11.5 23-Sep-10 19:12 Just believe W will score...and MGOFS is 1-1. ============================================================================ Fixtures 23 September / Juventus v Palermo / Correct Score 1 - 0 Lay 23-Sep-10 19:07 9.6 12.00 9.6 23-Sep-10 19:07 PAL will be aware they NEED to get at least a pint .....and I suspect they will score. MGOFS is 0-1 or 1-1. GL with bets. |
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Brilliant... layed Palermo @ 6.2... they score in the 1st minute [>o]
At least your 1-0 has won. gl all this evening |
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I'm on top form tonight.. layed Malaga pre-ko.. they've just gone 1 up on 55 mins.
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Do not play RUSSIAN ROULETTE tonight J[:p]
GL ...games might turn ...I hope |
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Getafe 0-2 now, good job I took a 50% red on that one.
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Fixtures 23 September / Sevilla v Santander / Correct Score 2 - 2 Lay 23-Sep-10
20:29 23 12.00 23 23-Sep-10 20:29 ================================================================================== Although SEVILLA well near top of league....they do seem to leak goals at present. RACING only lost 1-0 to VAL away...though VALENCIA had an imporatnt European match to play within a few days of that 1-0.....so doubt about how good defensively they are.....and they seem to struggle scoring away from home more than 1 goal. So TIGHT game could be likely tonight ....and my GOFS is 1-0 or 1-1. GL with bets. |
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Breda v VVV - Correct Score (IP 1-1 48 mins)
Lay Any Unquoted 6.4 £3.00 £19.20 £16.20 Ref: 12210383176 Bet placed: 20:52 23-Sep-10 managed to pull back a bit, (red Juve 7.00!) Won lay draw Villareal, won lay Hughes at Wolver., so no damage tonight..so far! |
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Breda 3-1 82 mins... Venlo heads down, what's the odds they let in another?.. hold on [smiley:crazy]
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3 main bets up tonight and 2 of the £2 guesses. 3 more of them to go so about £90 profit tonight barring disastes in the 3 other games....
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3-1 FT TFFT!
Actually managed a 3 quid profit tonight |
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WD "guys".....always good not to have a loss !!!!!
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Didn't want to frighten you DFC...
Sevilla v Santander - Correct Score (IP 1-1 57 mins) Lay 2 - 2 10.5 £3.00 £31.50 £28.50 Ref: 12211072752 Bet placed: 22:18 23-Sep-10 |
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.....................I chickened out lay a wee bit at 1-1 to go all green J.....nnever saw your post or would have bailed out earlier[:p]
================================================================== Fixtures 23 September / Fluminense RJ v Atletico-MG / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 23-Sep-10 22:19 17 12.00 17 23-Sep-10 22:19 Tricky game , as home team struggling to win ....but opposition have been strong generally ...so i suppose not surprising! Just believe that home team will score.....but suspect away team score too.....MGOFS is 1-1 or 2-1. ========================================================================== Fixtures 23 September / Vitoria-BA v Avai / Correct Score 2 - 2 Lay 23-Sep-10 22:14 18 12.00 18 23-Sep-10 22:14 This is likely to be TIGHT game ....as both struggling near foot table. Should be a good game to watch ...as could be end to end ...without a goal , but plenty or near things. Home team likely to win 1-0 or 2-1. GL with bets. |
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All bets won, including the 5 x £2 guessed. Just shows you how hard it is to predict correct scores.
Bank is now £1,720.19. Profit on Thus £100.70 Still on target for my target of £700 a week profit |
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THURSDAY- DAY 5 - RESULTS PROFIT 106.25
Soccer / Vitoria-BA v Avai : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 01:00 24-Sep-10 02:55 5.80 Soccer / Fluminense RJ v Atletico-MG : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 01:00 24-Sep-10 02:35 11.59 Soccer / Sevilla v Santander : Correct Score 23-Sep-10 21:00 23-Sep-10 22:54 7.73 Soccer / AFC Wimbledon v Crawley Town : Correct Score 23-Sep-10 19:45 23-Sep-10 21:46 11.59 Soccer / Juventus v Palermo : Correct Score 23-Sep-10 19:45 23-Sep-10 21:41 11.59 Soccer / Getafe v Malaga : Correct Score 23-Sep-10 19:00 23-Sep-10 20:51 11.59 Soccer / Villarreal v Deportivo : Correct Score 23-Sep-10 19:00 23-Sep-10 20:50 11.59 Soccer / Gaz Metan Craiova v Steaua Bucharest : Correct Score 23-Sep-10 18:30 23-Sep-10 20:29 11.59 Soccer / Osters v Vasby : Correct Score 23-Sep-10 18:00 23-Sep-10 19:51 11.59 Soccer / Astra Ploiesti v Otelul Galati : Correct Score 23-Sep-10 16:30 23-Sep-10 18:20 11.59 ========================================================================================= Therefore since thread started ....the results have been DAY 1 - SUNDAY..............PROFIT.....95.92 DAY 2- MONDAY..............LOSS.... ( 22.66 ) DAY 3- TUESDAY.............PROFIT..... 2.01 DAY 4- WEDNESDAY...........PROFIT....169.21 DAY 5- THURSDAY............PROFIT.... 106.25 CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 5 DAYS........ 350.73 So going fine SO FAR. WD S. GL with bets today |
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Fixtures 24 September / Uni Cluj v CFR Cluj / Correct Score Any Unquoted Lay 24-Sep-10
13:27 17 12.00 17 24-Sep-10 13:27 Away team has a CL game v ROMA looming up....and can't see them trying to go for 4 goals here. Home team does not have a great record against opponents...so likely to be a TIGHT game. MGOFS is 1-1. ========================================================= Fixtures 24 September / Spartak Moscow v Amkar / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 24-Sep-10 13:23 17 12.00 17 24-Sep-10 13:23 Just likely home team scores.....though could be a very late goal. MGOFS is 1-0 or 2-0. Gl with bets. |
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DFC views please.....
Question 1st. What was your total liability on Thursday if you got them all wrong (highly unlikely but)? Your aim seems to be the same as mine £100 a day but I bet 3/4 you bet 10/11. My liability if the 3 go wrong is about £700-800 from my bank which is always about 50% |
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squizz - I am deeply absorbed re HORSE RACING at present ....and also I've no idea what my TOTAL LIABILITY was on THURSDAY.........if you want to work it out ...all the odds are shown on thread ! No time to do that etc.
My "aim" is NOT a 100 a day ......I just bet on matches and stake them as I believe is appropriate. If I take a HIT ....I usually UP stakes.....if game is appropriate to do so etc Back to racinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg..GL with bets |
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Fixtures 24 September / Karlsruhe v FSV Frankfurt / Correct Score 2 - 2 Lay 24-Sep-10
15:51 18.5 12.00 18.14 24-Sep-10 15:51 KARLS likely to bounce back after heavy defeat away........and I believe they will score. MGOFS is 2-0. ============================================================== Fixtures 24 September / Cottbus v H Berlin / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 24-Sep-10 15:45 15.5 12.00 15.25 24-Sep-10 15:45 COTT just likely to score. MGOFS is 1-0 or 2-0. ================================================================ Fixtures 24 September / Aachen v Paderborn / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 24-Sep-10 15:42 18 12.00 17.85 24-Sep-10 15:42 Just believe PAD will struggle to score against dour team....and MGOFS is 0-0 or 1-0. GL with bets. |
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HIT IN HERTHA BERLIN GAME ....WILL TRY TO CLAW SOME BACK!
==================================================================== Fixtures 24 September / Piacenza v Siena / Correct Score 1 - 0 Lay 24-Sep-10 19:04 12 24.00 12 24-Sep-10 19:04 SIENA likely to score. MGOFS is 0-1 or 0-2. ============================================================= Fixtures 24 September / FC Koln v Hoffenheim / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 24-Sep-10 19:01 9.4 24.00 9.4 24-Sep-10 19:01 KOLN need to start winning /scoring ...so fair chance they grab at least 1 goal. MGOFS is 1-0, =============================================================== Fixtures 24 September / Legia Warsaw v Lech Poznan / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 24-Sep-10 18:56 9 24.00 9 24-Sep-10 18:56 Hard game to figure ...but fair chance away team scores. MGOFS is 0-2. GL with bets. ======================================================================= |
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Fixtures 24 September / Portsmouth v Leicester / Correct Score 2 - 2 Lay 24-Sep-10
19:26 19 12.00 19 24-Sep-10 19:26 Home team struggling to score goals.....and TIGHT game likely. MGOFS is 0-1...or 1-0. ========================================================================= Fixtures 24 September / L Orient v Brentford / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 24-Sep-10 19:23 12 24.00 12 24-Sep-10 19:23 Fair chance hom team scores...and MGOFS is 2-0. GL with bets. |
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Friday Bets
Lay Orient 1-1 £50 @ 7.2 Lay Kolne 0-0 £20 @ 12 Lay Bray 1-1 £50 @ 7.2 Les Mans 0-0 £25 @ 9.8 Don't know why but BAD feeling tonight !!! |
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ANother 4 winners and a profit of £147.25 tonight.
Bank stands at £1,867.44 |
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About 20 down after hit early on ...so
Fixtures 24 September / Independiente v Gimnasia La Plata / Correct Score 2 - 2 Lay 24-Sep-10 22:33 24 12.00 24 24-Sep-10 22:33 IND have COPA 2st leg tie looming up on TUESDAY ......so suspect they will play a containing game 1st half and try to steal game 1-0......MGOFS. =============================================================================== Fixtures 24 September / Ponte Preta v Sao Caetano / Correct Score 2 - 2 Lay 24-Sep-10 22:27 18.5 12.00 18.32 24-Sep-10 22:27 PONTE P if they win cam make major move to top part of league.....and their opponents appear to struggle to score goals....MGOFS is 2-0 or 3-1. =============================================================================== Fixtures 24 September / Velez v Olimpo / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 24-Sep-10 22:19 12.5 24.00 12.5 24-Sep-10 22:19 VELEZ should be too flexible in attack for away team to stop them scoring. MGOFS is 3-0. GL with bets. |
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FRIDAY - DAY 6 - RESULTS PROFIT 26.02
Soccer / Independiente v Gimnasia La Plata : Correct Score 25-Sep-10 01:20 25-Sep-10 03:11 11.59 Soccer / Ponte Preta v Sao Caetano : Correct Score 25-Sep-10 01:00 25-Sep-10 02:51 11.59 Soccer / Velez v Olimpo : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 23:10 25-Sep-10 01:03 23.18 Soccer / L Orient v Brentford : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 19:45 24-Sep-10 21:42 23.18 Soccer / Piacenza v Siena : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 19:45 24-Sep-10 21:39 23.18 Soccer / FC Koln v Hoffenheim : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 19:30 24-Sep-10 21:20 23.18 Soccer / Portsmouth v Leicester : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 19:45 24-Sep-10 21:05 11.59 Soccer / Legia Warsaw v Lech Poznan : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 19:00 24-Sep-10 20:57 23.18 Soccer / Aachen v Paderborn : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 17:00 24-Sep-10 18:58 11.59 Soccer / Cottbus v H Berlin : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 17:00 24-Sep-10 18:53 -171.01 Soccer / Karlsruhe v FSV Frankfurt : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 17:00 24-Sep-10 18:50 11.59 Soccer / Spartak Moscow v Amkar : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 15:00 24-Sep-10 16:56 11.59 Soccer / Uni Cluj v CFR Cluj : Correct Score 24-Sep-10 14:30 24-Sep-10 16:22 11.59 ==================================================================================== As there was 1 HIT yesterday ......it took a while before got back into profit for day. Having a go with JAPANESE games .....but with lower stakes. GL with bets today. |
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ixtures 25 September / Yokohama FM v Sendai / Correct Score 2 - 2 Lay 25-Sep-10
07:56 23 6.00 23 25-Sep-10 07:56 ==================================================================== Fixtures 25 September / Kawasaki v G-Osaka / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 25-Sep-10 07:55 17.5 6.00 17.13 25-Sep-10 07:55 ===================================================================== Fixtures 25 September / Kyoto v Iwata / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 25-Sep-10 07:53 12 6.00 12 25-Sep-10 07:53 ============================================================================= Fixtures 25 September / Urawa v Niigata / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 25-Sep-10 07:51 15.5 6.00 15.5 25-Sep-10 07:51 =============================================================================== Fixtures 25 September / Montedio Yamagata v Shonan / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 25-Sep-10 07:49 16.5 6.00 16.5 25-Sep-10 07:49 ================================================================================ GLWBT. |
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Since thread started ....the results have been
DAY 1 - SUNDAY..............PROFIT.....95.92 DAY 2- MONDAY..............LOSS.... ( 22.66 ) DAY 3- TUESDAY.............PROFIT..... 2.01 DAY 4- WEDNESDAY...........PROFIT....169.21 DAY 5- THURSDAY............PROFIT.... 106.25 DAY 6- FRIDAY..............PROFIT..... 26.02 CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 6 DAYS........ 376.75 |
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Fixtures 25 September / Man City v Chelsea / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 25-Sep-10
12:07 10.5 12.00 10.5 25-Sep-10 12:07 MC just likely to score....and I also believe there will be at least 2 goals in game. MGOFS is 1-1. ================================================================== Fixtures 25 September / HJK Helsinki v TPS / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 25-Sep-10 12:11 13 12.00 12.95 25-Sep-10 12:11 This is FINAL of Summer Cup.....and fair chance there will be a goal ....as TPS tend to concede them. MGOFS is 2-1. ========================================================================= Fixtures 25 September / Koblenz v Offenbach / Correct Score 0 - 1 Lay 25-Sep-10 12:18 10.5 12.00 10.5 25-Sep-10 12:18 Away team being banging in goals for fun.....but K appear to be tough to score against at home.....So this game might finish 1-0 or 0-0 or 0-2. GL with bets. |
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Not correct scores but posted to keep bank in check
All over 2.5 goals Cheltenham Yeovil Reading swindon Rotherham 5 x 4 folds and accum x £10 total £60 invested |