Feck

I didn't back it Feck but it was returned at 2.04 for a place.  (Premier Clarets) A decent start if place backing.

Well done with Harbinger stewarty. Pity Peslier's ride wasn't as inspired on Imperialistic Diva. Stopped in its run and ended up challenging on the wide outside but just failing to get up for 3rd. Ruined my day.

Only just noticed Harbinger was 4/1.

Cheers Feck. I meant to post yesterday but had to go out at lunchtime and I was a tad Banff and MaCduff in the forenoon, I don't know if you saw the race but that was mighty impressive imo. I always had doubts about the Derby form (like I have done since 1995) and was glad to be proved correct. I haven't bought a RP since saturday or had a bet but I'm sure someone said on the Brazil show this morning that Haringber is now rated higer than See the Stars?. Brazil reckoned 'doubt it'. I disagree. I know there are discrepancies in the form at times, but there's a
big difference between 15L and 2L, re; Youzmain and I might have found my other selection to go with Celtic in the SPL. (if it runs in the Arc)

As regards Imperialistic Diva, was that an EW acca? Ihad a few more things to mention to you but the've gone out my mind for the time being, (I'll post when the cells join up again!! )

Finally for now, isn't it amazing how the ''ranch forman's'' ear muffs seem to come off about 5pm on saturday, when the tide begins to turn. 

*foreman's

It was 2 e/w dbls I had stewarty (the last two horses mentioned were both in the same race). I'm afraid my ranch foreman's ear muffs only come off at the end of the flat season, large scoop 6 wins excepted.

large scoop 6 wins excepted.


Shouldn't that be expected Feck? 

if only

Aye Feck, and they say the masons keep things close to their chest!!! 

stewarty, the one big win I had the cumulative odds were bigger than both of the magician's big wins yet I got a lot less as I had to share with a lady who had a single £2 line . To rub it in the bonus race (~250K) was won by a 50/1 shot. I contacted the woman beforehand (racing post put us in touch) and explained the last thing we wanted was to end up on the same horse and I offered her first choice provided she contacted me and told me what it was. She never even phoned. I was doing her a favour yet I got the impression she thought I was trying to rip her off.

Dear God Feck that's a pigs ear and a half. I take it the bonus wasn't won by her. I would have bit your hand off at the offer. Some people just can't comprehend the game, hence a lucky two quid winner who has probably never bought a RP in her life gets lucky. (no harm in that btw) As it would probably been akin to buying a lottery ticket to her and you put in all the hard graft. 'darks forces' springs to mind....

TBH, it's a pity a £2 punter didn't take it every week because, let's face it, it's pretty parasitic only joining in on big rollovers. They should give losers from the previous (pool not won) week a free line for every line they place this week up to the total losing lines they had last week.

Feck, as you know, there is no sentiment in gambling and I was teasing the ranch foreman at lunchtime if she would like to stick a few bob on Braga to get a better interest rate than her savings account. She never took the bait, (as per usual, but asked the price). I said to her it would be about 8/13 without having even looked. (genuinely) I was going to stick this on the football forum, however I thougtht I would mention it to you first. Lennon has bought players who MIGHT cut it in the SPL, but as for being a 'team' at the moment, I have my doubts. I was amazed to see 2.1 Braga. Don't know what your thoughts are on this but I'm backing Canford Cliffs in the Sussex and all returns, (if any) are going on Brada.

I couldn't do it myself stewarty but if someone suggested last week Braga would be 2.1 I would've thought no chance. I can't believe this is Goodwood week and I haven't even found the enthusiasm to look at the horses. I doubt I must be on my way out.

When you say you couldn't do it Feck, do you mean under any circumstances? (Hannon on fire there again)

I wouldn't say under any circumstances but the value would have to be considerable or the game meaningless. It's not like I need the money. It would just seem totally alien to me not to be shouting on Celtic / Scotland or not supporting the opponents of Rangers / England. I wouldn't consider myself a bitter person but it's hard to be neutral when you live in an in-your-face area. Personally I wish they'd both get into the EPL so we'd only have to put up with gloating once in a blue moon. They are not worth the stabbings.

Thought I was beat there Feck espesially when Moore bagged the rail but first leg up.

I find your last post interesting Feck! Fair enoutgh you don't need the money but I thought you were a value man, and Braga are 'good' value tonight as opposed to 'great' value. I myself am not a bitter person and would have no problem in shouting on the h u ns opponents or the England team if my money was down at what I considered value. I know what you mean by 'in-your-face', my late father refused to let me attend an old firm game when I was younger and I can see his reasoning now.(albeit it's not so drastic aftermatch as it used to be)

As for the EPL, well, I'm sure you've read some of my threads on the subject on the football forum.....

You're lucky I wasn't on stewarty. Moore's never done me a turn in my life. He wins on ridiculously short priced, full exposed favourites that no tissue maker could justify but first sign of value and he's nowhere to be seen. How unlike Dettori and even Felon at their peak.

And he just goes and steals a race at 5/1 in which I thought 100/1 in the photo!! (although I didn't see the photo betting, I was convinced it was beat)

I misunderstood your previous post stewarty. I thought Moore was on CC.

Feck, just a couple of points if you don't mind.

At what price would you have backed Braga?

Secondly, I won just over a monkey on CC and I'm thinking there are too many nosey cnuts on this thread as it looks like they will go off odds on now. (btw it's everybody'e right to look into any thread!!)

I'm now thinking of sticking my winnings only on Braga so I don't have a `losing day.

And lastly, please don't think I'm a nosey cnut for asking you Q'S!, it's because I know I'll get a sensible answer from someone with a bit of common and feel free to ask me anything you want.

It's hard to say stewarty. In the old days I was very adept at working out football odds but never really bothered with foreign matches because I didn't have sufficient data. If someone offered me 3.0 Braga just now I'd just back them and (whisper it) lay them off so I could shout on Celtic. Is it on the telly?

Sh1t. I see it's not on sky (I can get sky on the internet via that old skybet promotion I took up).

I'm not sure where it is on Feck thh. I was thinking ESPN but may be way off the mark there. There's betting in running so should be available somewhere?

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its on atdhe.net n all

That link is coming back to me...........


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Forgeting the coverage, the value is waning a bit. I might do the overs at 2.46 for a few bob instead. It's bound to be on Radio Scotland.

You may already know this Feck, but the SFA are employing a 'performance director' and the new chief executive is Stewart Regan, an Englishman who's last job was chief executive of Yorkshire cricket club. I would normally say it makes you want to weep, but in this case, Hampden should be turned into a bigger version of Carstairs so the have plenty of room to dance and excersise around the track.........hand in hand.

*they

He'll be a friend of a friend (or should that be handshaker).

stewarty, you don't usually get anything on those links till kick-off.

Cheers Feck. In case of aftertiming, I've decided no bet. Hope it's 1-1.

2.1, now 1.86. I'll have to get you my E.mail address sometime Feck. With your permission I could phone my man at BF and ask him if he would pass it on, but this may not be company policy. (although my man is very near the top of the tree.) Anyways, I'm not getting paranoid, I'm sure the price looked good to many. Anybody looking previously I hope they get fcked.

PS It would be just for the odd bit of banter and views.

feel free stewarty

Morning Feck. I know that's not the result you wanted. I'm a bit pig sick after changing my mind THREE times last night. Had I stuck to my guns origanally I would have bagged approx. 1250. Then I change my mind and my winnings would have been just over a monkey. Then I change my mind again on the overs which cost me 300. Perhaps it's the physcology of gambling? Because my luck has turned for the better, maybe I'm getting too cagey?

Anyways, I have a feeling that a cerain 'frames' was looking in and picked my brains and the price went into downturn He had a pop at me the other day on my Premiership thread
and called me a Jock! I've no idea if that was a bit of bait but I noticed he had a pop at you the same day on your thread. Anyways, I blame him!! (hope he's looking in)

As for today, I'm feeling like I have to get my balance up a bit due to yesterday's hesitation. However, although I'm not that superstitious that's akin to a bit of chasing, so it's only the one bet at Goodwood. Tactic, win and place in the 3.25. 4.7 and 1.71 as I type. I'll see how the price developes.  gl if you're having a punt.

*certain

I forgot to ask Feck, did you see the game on that link?

stewarty, frames is one of my long standing b1tches . When I downloaded the decs last night and imported the rp betting f/c, Courageous in the last looked good at 14/1 (thinking it would maybe be 16/1 or 20/1 in a place). Forgot all about it until you mentioned Goodwood but the 14's is gone so don't think I'll bother although 12/1 still value if Buckley hasn't been indulging in selective watering.

frames is one of my long standing b1tches



PMSL

Nice to see feck playing nicely with some other children.

Oh dear, looks like frames has more than one username. (nap) (five star)

Alarming drift on Tactic, but I'll persevere and be in front if trickie dickie can use the whip!

* for a place.

I dislike aftertiming, but my thinking was J.Dunlop will come back to some sort of form eventually. Not today. But well keeping an eye open for when he does. I'll stick a few bob on Courageous for an interest, and can blame Feck if i'ts unplaced.

I take it Tacctic got beat stewarty. I've sky +'d it but not looked yet. I see Courageous has shortened further. Here's hoping.

Well beat Feck, then trickie dickie cruises home in a track record at 16/1 for the 'always trying' mob. (in the Arabs colours which Frankie usually rides for) Albeit he has the one boss.

I'll tell you something Feck, if this beast of yours wins that will be some good picking. A mighty tough race imo and no hard feelings if it's beat.  I've had a look at the race and will back your selection with a bet on my fancy, Medici Time to cover the losses for today.  gl if you get involved.

No excuses here Feck, but that  fecker Nicholls knows how to get the corn money......

First 4 drawn 10, 11, 14 & 15. I had a RFC drawn 12 & 13. .

Stewarty ,you need to remove your tongue from Fecks ar$e.

A truley cringeworthy thread.

He can't get near it for your teeth frames.

Stick out value today stewarty. 3.25 Acrostic 12/1 and 4.35 Memen 3/1. I also wouldn't mind a spread bet on Roayh in the 4.00.

Calm down frames or I will steal you from Fecks stable and make you one of my bitches. 


I had a `late night yesterday Feck and I'm a bit seedy but will give these beasts a look.

Many many thanks. (for frames)

Feck, Iv'e had a look at Goodwood and will be backing Sri Putra in the first....w/p. I will also back Memen in the last, albeit Cole is not my favourite trainer.  gl.

Traded at 1/2 there Feck. Thought I had it in the bag, but still a profit with the place at 2.04.

Against my better judgement Feck, I'm laying the Fav here.

(Libranno)

Profit + gone today. Is there no stopping these Hannon's beasts?

Would've laid it myself stewarty. Glad I'm only fiddling. July / August are rarely good months for me.

It just gots on and on and on Feck. Hannon's beast's are untouchable. (fair play to the man)

I would've lost big on that Memen there. Some large amounts available from 4.0 upwards. Terrible ride.

Any thoughts on the over watered filth at Goodwood (3:40), Feck?

Muq, last night I was thinking about making Enact a banker in the scoop 6 and hoping buckley was going high but with pricespoiler tipping it I may not even bother with a scoop now. Acouple of biggies on betfair (80.0+) I'd consider are Iver Bridge Lad (blinkers back on) and Ingleby Lady (drawn near the high drawn principals).

You convinced high will have it? I'm thinking stands side of centre might not be a bad place to be on this softish ground (this stick reading should be good to soft). It will be more churned up far side by 3:40? Ingleby Lady would kill me, I have been faithful to this fair dame for a long time but have chucked her today.

I'm convinced of nothing where this guy's concerned muqbil. It's bad enough having 7 or 8 meetings to deal with without this watering sh1t into the bargain. Is it any wonder people can't be @rsed. I'm a big winner on horses and I can't be @rsed.

ttt

Did you save yourself the scoop 6 pain, Feck?

Rileys my best effort, backed win only on here naturally!

Anyway enough of hijacking the thread. gl chaps.

I cut the perm right down Muqbil so wasn't too bad.

No hijacking involved Muqbil. You're more than welcome to contribute antime.


No bets for me today Feck but I might stick a few bob on Dubai Affair in the 7.55 at Lingfield.

*anytime.

4.3 when I posted. I'll stick a few quid on since it appears the money's down...

I'm glad I've only been fiddling this week because I've barely bet one that gave me as much as a run for my money. I'm on Veroon at 12/1 in the last and then it's back to working on my database.

Are you playing today, Feck?

I did the jackpot Muqbil but fortunately left it too late and only managed to get 60% of my perms on. I'm out but it looks almost certain I'll end up with the 6 winners but not all in one line.Would've still been in had any of the first 3 jollies won. It's not great value when there's so few runners. Pay out will only be around 1.25 times what they took in today.

Not that a 25% expected profit is to be snuffed at. What I should've said was the pay out divided by the take is often much higher.

I had a relatively small perm (104 lines), had 1st,2nd in l1, 1st,2nd in l3, 2nd,3rd in l3, banked secretive to keep perm down in l4, had discarded uphold & dolphin rock, had 1st, 2nd in l5.

1 & 5 in final leg.

Hard to win with small perms.

I had all 6 winners but only 4 in one line. Return wasn't much better than SP accum.

Looking at it again, if I had done a 'dumb' perm (i.e. just one large combo for the same money staked) I'd have got it up. I sometimes do just one large combo when I'm short of time but thought I'd manage to get it all on.

I need to get some maths skills sharpened up.

Screen scraping skills I'm needing to do these combos automatically. I'd do them on betfair through the API but their discounts are the meanest in the game.

Lads, if I may interject. You can still get a 5k bet on the footie down here in Ayrshire if you're ever looking......

After the last few games wee're looking for 6/4 as well john

The Champions League qualifier was always going to be too early for a new collection of players. If Samaras is shipped out, and Mulgrew kept away from left back, domestically they should cope.

(There doesn't seem to be a "fingers crossed" emoticon)

Samaras has been one of our better players so far. If we could get more consistency out of him I wouldn't like to see him go. I think he loves being at Parkhead as well which I imagine is one of the reasons Lennon kept him.

I'd love to see Bellamy back.

Six winners today Feck. Did you come anywhere near to hitting the crossbar?

**Six winning tickets that is.

4 winners just. I got 18 place divis though so won around 1700 out of it. With a bit stewarty of luck I could've won it on my own as I had Silver Rine 2nd 25/1 as well as a few other big priced places.

That stewarty's in the wrong place [:o]

Have you tried solid state storage yet, Feck?

Just ordered a new disk for my video and was almost tempted to get a solid state disk for my SQL storage. Decided I wantrf to learn more about them before taking the plunge. Reading data from disk is a real bottleneck for my db queries etc.

Muqbil, I may well go down that road next time I upgrade my equipment. When it first came out it didn't look like a safe option for long term storage but it's came on leaps and bounds lately in that respect.

Feck, It's doubtful if I'll back Celtic now. After much thought I was going to stick a 2K ante-post double on Harbinger for the Arc and Celtic at odds of approx. 9/2. Celtic still look the team, however a few seeds of doubt have crept into my mind. As for Harbinger's injury I'm genuinely gutted, not only from a punting point of view but I'm convinced this beast would have turned out to be something very special. I know it's all about opinions but that's mine. GL if you lump on again, I might still, if I can find something else to go with them. (Only Chelsea appeal at the moment)

The pre-season results do not inspire confidence stewarty. The worry has to be that a bad result or uninspiring performance is going to bring the fan's frustration down on their heads. I daresay it will be the same for the currents though.

Did you mean currants Feck?

Must've been a Freudian slip stewarty as they're the current champions.

Sorry Feck, I think it's me who misunderstood. I thought you meant currant buns.

All boils down to the same thing!

I did stewarty.

Hello Feck. Was just wondering if you got involved with Celtic in the SPL. 4/6 the average price now as I forecasted. I didn't bother myself as Watty may have made up for Lennon buying 11 new players. As for today, I've had my first bet for over a month on Cape Blanco in the champion. Beaten 11L last time by Harbinger, and although that doesn't look too good, I rated Harbinger very very highly. (it would have slaughtered this bunch imho) I was nearly matched at 8.6 but have taken the 7.8. GL for today if you're having a punt.

Get in there you Fkn beauty,!!!!!!!!

wd stewarty. good call. Easiest winner I have seen today.

Wish I had seen this earlier, would have had a small bet to get back this aftys losses!


Excellent ride too.

Thanks Muqbil, It was always on my mind to back this beast after finishing second to a great horse. (imho, AGAIN) I wonder now where Harbinger stands along side the greats??? Perhaps we will never know, but there is a slight chance it might run again. No doubt Feck will give me the face!!!!   

Feck; I am halfway through a paperback (fiction) that I thought you would really enjoy if you haven't already guffawed your way through it.

Meltdown - Ben Elton