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By:
johnizere
When: 30 Jul 10 20:18
1-1 won't be so bad for me, but I can't see Liege scoring... if anything, Zulte look more likely to score, so here's hoping!
By:
johnizere
When: 30 Jul 10 21:17
1-1 Standard... small loss instead of a big loss, Plain
By:
'MonTheRovers
When: 30 Jul 10 21:28
Unlucky johnizere, i felt sure i was going to take a hit there[:p]
Bank now £26.11Grin
By:
johnizere
When: 30 Jul 10 21:52
Nice one 'Mon.. the red card put paid to Zulte scoring a second, which imo was likely. I said before ko that Liege were cr@p.. and haven't changed my mind. Staying away from this league from now on.
Layed Unquoted in the Benfica match (at 7.2).. will trade for a bit of profit. gl.
By:
'MonTheRovers
When: 30 Jul 10 23:24
I hope you traded out johnizere, AU didn't look possible at half time[smiley:crazy]
I'm going to lay 1-0 in the Portuguesa game, Sao Caetano should score imo

Lay       Backer's Odds     Backer's Stake     Payout  Liability
1 - 0       10               £2.90        £29.00      £26.10

Good luck all
By:
'MonTheRovers
When: 31 Jul 10 00:23
I've bottled out of the 1-0 lay[:p] lost 6p in the trade so my CS bank is now £26.05
AU looks like a better lay @9.4

Lay         Backer's Odds     Backer's Stake     Payout  Liability
Any Unquoted       9.4            £3.10         £29.14      £26.04
By:
Bet of the Decade
When: 31 Jul 10 00:25
Portugaesa v Sao Caetano.

0-0 Lay.

£9 at 16.5

Good Luck.
By:
Bet of the Decade
When: 31 Jul 10 01:38
Landed.

+£8.55
By:
'MonTheRovers
When: 31 Jul 10 03:03
3-1 ft [smiley:crazy] my AU lay sqeezed throughLaugh

Bank now £29 exactlyCool
By:
johnizere
When: 31 Jul 10 06:53
No, I didn't trade the benfica match, I was too greedy... I could have taken 3.00 just before the 2-1 score, then the odds went way too low, and never recovered. Down 45 quid on the night, thats over half the weeks profit gone, and I was doing so well. Onwards and upwards [;)]
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 31 Jul 10 21:43
Guess this is done with DFC must of done his bank in, time for the new seasons one now screw this one has ended on a bad note
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 31 Jul 10 21:43
Guess this is done with DFC must of done his bank in, time for the new seasons one now screw this one has ended on a bad note
By:
johnizere
When: 31 Jul 10 22:01
I wouldn't say it's a bad note, MM, just a bit of a mystery, that's all. Look forward to the new season, and good luck with it!
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 01 Aug 10 11:21
come back dfc
By:
jimbobjones
When: 02 Aug 10 14:03
Only 2weeks to go until the new season :)

Lets get ready to rumble.................
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Aug 10 14:19
STARTING BANK was £2,000, but I used this plus profits plus an input of extra £1,000 approx to cover position when a number of games being played roughly at same time etc.

I don't go "all-in" ....but was prepared to use up to £5,000 exposure on some games where I felt there was a strong chance bet would "win". WAS restricting liability GENERALLY to max limit of £1,750 on any one event.

As from WEEK 18 have changed STAKING drastically, and GENERALLY will, at start of day's betting, just go for 0.01% of that day's starting bank as profit target per game. This will substantially reduce the level of liability risked on most games. If I lose on a CS LAY, then I will substantially INCREASE STAKES witha view to recoup the loss on previous lay, BUT ONLY IF I FEEL STRONGLY ON CS LAY'S CHANCES OF WINNING FROM IT.

I might not go for all the amount lost on CS LAY, and might spread it over 2/3/4 CS LAY bets, but the objective will be to recover the loss and to end up with an average profit per game bet on of 0.01% after commission IT WILL NOT BE AN AUTOMATIC INCREASE IN STAKING, BUT BE BASED ON MY EXPECTATIONS THAT THE BET WILL WIN. I MIGHT JUST GO FOR THE NORMAL PROFIT PER GAME OF 0.01% ON THE NEXT MATCH, IF I THINK IT IS NOT A STRONG BET ETC.



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CUMULATIVE PROFIT B/F FROM END WEEK 8 .............£ 5,924.23

PROFIT FOR DAY 57(SUNDAY).................................. 482.49
PROFIT FOR DAY 58(MONDAY)................................. 304.60
LOSS FOR DAY 59(TUESDAY)................................. )
LOSS FOR DAY 60(WEDNESDAY)............................... )
PROFIT FOR DAY 61(THURSDAY)...............................468.99
PROFIT FOR DAY 62(FRIDAY)...................................330.47
LOSS FOR DAY 63(SATURDAY)................................ )

CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 63 DAYS.......................£ 5,350.89 END OF WEEK 9

PROFIT FOR DAY 64(SUNDAY)....................................929.85
PROFIT FOR DAY 65(MONDAY)...................................211.11
PROFIT FOR DAY 66(TUESDAY).................................. 295.29
PROFIT FOR DAY 67(WEDNESDAY)............................. 511.45
PROFIT FOR DAY 68(THURSDAY)............................... 334.13
PROFIT FOR DAY 69(FRIDAY)................................... 233.15
PROFIT FOR DAY70(SATURDAY)............................. 990.09

CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 70 DAYS.......................£ 8,855.96 END WEEK 10

WEEK 11
PROFIT FOR DAY 71(SUNDAY).................................. 90.61
PROFIT FOR DAY 72(MONDAY)................................... 410.36
PROFIT FOR DAY 73(TUESDAY)................................. 68.69
LOSS FOR DAY 74(WEDNESDAY)............................... )
PROFIT FOR DAY 75(THURSDAY)................................ 162.20
PROFIT FOR DAY 76(FRIDAY)................................... 709.45
PROFIT FOR DAY 77(SATURDAY)............................... 240.59

CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 77 DAYS.......................£ 10,454.50 END WEEK 11

WEEK12
PROFIT FOR DAY 78(SUNDAY).................................. 452.64
LOSS FOR DAY 79 (MONDAY).................................... 385.81 )
PROFIT FOR DAY 80(TUESDAY)................................. 450.01
PROFIT FOR DAY 81(WEDNESDAY).............................. 602.53
PROFIT FOR DAY 82(THURSDAY)................................ 491.64
PROFIT FOR DAY 83(FRIDAY).................................. 429.37
PROFIT FOR DAY 84(SATURDAY)................................ 659.29

CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 84 DAYS.......................£ 13,154.57 END WEEK 12

WEEK 13
PROFIT FOR DAY 85(SUNDAY).................................. 648.07
PROFIT FOR DAY 86(MONDAY)................................... 287.87
LOSS FOR DAY 87 (TUESDAY)................................... 418.36 )
LOSS FOR DAY 88 (WEDNESDAY).............................. (.978.88 )
LOSS FOR DAY 89 (THURSDAY).................................. )
PROFIT FOR DAY 90(FRIDAY).....................................578.06
LOSS FOR DAY 91 (SATURDAY)................................( 2,702.00 )


CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 91 DAYS.......................£ 7,845.55 END WEEK 13

WEEK 14
PROFIT FOR DAY 92( SUNDAY).................................2,166.02
PROFIT FOR DAY 93(MONDAY)................................... 659.48
PROFIT FOR DAY 94(TUESDAY).................................. 245.38
PROFIT FOR DAY 95(WEDNESDAY)............................. 605.01
PROFIT FOR DAY 96(THURSDAY)............................... 589.87
PROFIT FOR DAY 97(FRIDAY)................................... 394.54
PROFIT FOR DAY 98(SATURDAY)............................... 972.91

CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 98 DAYS.......................£ 13,482.76 END OF WEEK 14

WEEK 15
LOSS FOR DAY 99(SUNDAY)................................... ( 617.75 )
TOOK A HOLIDAY ON DAY 100 (MONDAY)........................ 0.00
PROFIT FOR DAY 101(TUESDAY)............................... 384.87
LOSS FOR DAY 102(WEDNESDAY).............................. )
PROFIT FOR DAY 103(THURSDAY)................................ 9.72
LOSS FOR DAY 104(FRIDAY)................................. 2,035.38 )
PROFIT FOR DAY 105(SATURDAY)............................. 1,059.68


CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 105 DAYS.£ 12,075.26 END OF WEEK 15

WEEK 16
LOSS FOR DAY LOSS FOR DAY 106(SUNDAY)........( 112.50 )
PROFIT FOR DAY 107(MONDAY)................ 386.80
PROFIT FOR DAY 108(TUESDAY)................129.43
PROFIT FOR DAY 109(WEDNESDAY)..............412.57
PROFIT FOR DAY 110(THURSDAY)............... 290.11
PROFIT FOR DAY 111 (FRIDAY)................ 249.48
PROFIT FOR DAY 112(SATURDAY)............... 504.38


CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 112 DAYS..£ 13,935.53 END WEEK 16

WEEK 17
LOSS FOR DAY 113 (SUNDAY)..........( 550.23 )
PROFIT FOR DAY 114(MONDAY)........... 244.69
PROFIT FOR DAY 115(TUESDAY).......... 116.04
LOSS FOR DAY 116(WEDNESDAY).........( 333.77 )
LOSS FOR DAY 117(THURSDAY).........(2,466.94 )
PROFIT FOR DAY 118(FRIDAY)........... 462.23
PROFIT FOR DAY 119(SATURDAY).......... 78.82   


CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 119 DAYS  £ 11,486.37 END WEEK 17
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NEW METHOD OF STAKING APPLIED FROM START OF WEEK 18
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 119 DAYS..b/f  £ 11,486.37

PROFIT FOR DAY 120(SUNDAY)................. 385.69
PROFIT FOR DAY 121(MONDAY)................. 212.74
PROFIT FOR DAY 122(TUESDAY)................ 161.49
PROFIT FOR DAY 123(WEDNESDAY).............. 431.35
LOSS FOR DAY 124 (THURSDAY)...............( 694.46 )
PROFIT FOR DAY 125(FRIDAY)..................510.50
PROFIT FOR DAY 126(SATURDAY)................470.01


CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 126 DAYS .....£  12,963.69 END OF WEEK 18

WEEK 19
PROFIT FOR DAY 127(SUNDAY)................. 498.15
PROFIT FOR DAY 128 (MONDAY)................. 412.85
PROFIT FOR DAY 129 (TUESDAY)................ 344.43
PROFIT FOR DAY 130 (WEDNESDAY).............. 395.7
PROFIT FOR DAY 131 (THURSDAY)............... 228.55
PROFIT FOR DAY 132 (FRIDAY)....................4.33
PROFIT FOR DAY 133 (SATURDAY)............... 287.93

CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 133 DAYS .....£  15,135.63 END WEEK 19

WEEK 20
PROFIT FOR DAY 134 (SUNDAY)................ 443.81
LOSS FOR DAY 135 (MONDAY)................ ( 144.30 )
LOSS FOR DAY 136 (TUESDAY)................(. 84.13 )


CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 136 DAYS .....£  15,351.01


SINCE LAST ABOVE UPDATE RESULTS HAVE BEEN


338.85    -704.66    WED    2ND JUNE
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
505.56    -303.42    THURS    3RD JUNE
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-1065.77    365.15    FRID    4TH JUNE
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-2457.04    1241.38    SAT    5TH JUNE
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
407.78    551.03    SUN     6TH JUNE
           
           
           
           
           
338.44    142.13    MON    7TH JUNE
           
-370.93    HOLIDAY    TUES    8TH JUNE
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
401.79    544.23    WED    9TH JUNE
           
           
           
           
           
           
437.93    231.1    THURS    10 June
           
           
150.25    223.41    FRID    11 June
           
           
           
           
-2327.1    -2627.3    SAT    12 June
           
           
           
           
           
           
482.36    -2179.01    SUNDAY    13 June
           
           
           
           
418.63    -934.37    MOND    14 June
           
           
           
1.34    174.06    TUES    15 June
           
           
           
           
482.46    -396.16    WED    16 June
           
           
           
           
-1898.76    1277.6    THURS    17 June
           
           
           
           
-25.11    -1598.4    FRID    18 June
           
           
           
           
515.3    -137.7    SAT    19 June
           
           
           
           
297.41    -977.87    SUN    20 June
           
           
           
           
364.29    512.37    MON    21 June
           
           
           
           
           
259.29    -808.19    TUES    22 June
           
           
           
           
           
-608.42    615.65    WED    23 June
           
           
           
           
           
283.17    441.41    THURS   
            24 June
           
           
           
           
344.39    -1231.94    FRID    25 June
           
           
           
           
           
-54.85    540.79    SAT    26 June
           
           
           
           
256.72    449.89    SUN    27 June
           
           
           
-747.28    450.62    MOND    28 June
           
           
           
260.66    -1833.37    TUES    29 June
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
772.52    291.21    WED    30 June
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
161.74    -33.41    THURS    01 July
           
           
           
           
           
-205.33    86.56    FRID    02 July
           
           
           
634.91    325.64    SAT    03 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-1294    407.38    SUN    04 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-5.25    441.42    MON    05 July
           
           
           
           
-1118.97    164.56    TUES    07 July
           
           
           
           
           
-1239.37    -1378    WED    08 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
394.29    210.74    THURS    09 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-596.41    -211.78    FRID    10 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
390.69    159.24    SAT    11 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-9.72    1809.56    SUND    12 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
347.99    -93.59    MOND    13 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
95.75    521.44    TUESD    14 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-1059.76    -2889.01    WED    15 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
486.15    531.44    THURS    16 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
315.04    83.37    FRID    17 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
430.1    -1253.17    SAT    18 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
109.21    -500.04    SUN    19 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
272.65    -192.3    MON    20 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
214.78    184.05    TUES    21 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
364.71    -455.3    WED    22 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
198.37    225.78    THURS    23 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
240.85    113.11    FRID    24 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
351.92    190.12    SAT    25 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-213.86    90.42    SUN    26 July
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
-712.78    188.55    MON    27 July




THEREFORE CUMULATIVE PROFIT WAS AFTER 136 DAYS  15351.01


LOSS DURING ABOVE PERIOD ON THREAD            (   6953.08 )

NET PROFIT ON THREAD                             8397.13



The World Cup cost a few thousand ...but still in profit on thread posts.....

Racing started ...will post thoughts later.

GL with bets today
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Aug 10 14:23
Ignore figures on left hand side ....as that was horse racing results.....eg on last day above the profit was 188.55 from CS LAYS etc...the -712.78 was loss on horses
By:
Avocado
When: 02 Aug 10 14:36
What's your strategy for laying the correct scores? What is your criteria etc. for laying them?
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Aug 10 14:39
I'm busy with racing A........why don't you list what you think the strategy is based on.......basically "common sense" using stats...and some guesses....

I will post "thoughts2 later re my views on CS LAYS etc
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DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Aug 10 14:40
World Cup was where it is far harder to weigh up what might happen......far easier with league matches....
By:
Bet of the Decade
When: 02 Aug 10 19:34
Good to see you posting again DFC.

Hope you're well and looking forward to the new football season.

Good Luck mate.
By:
Bet of the Decade
When: 02 Aug 10 19:39
Avocado.

If you trawl through the posts on this thread DFC has posted lots of info on his reasons for choosing various CS Lays and readily highlights how he doesn't possess an 'edge'  (although he is in profit over a long period of time of laying CS).

I think the key for CS lays, is to use your judgement, look at some previous results of both teams, look at team selection maybe, look at goals scored and conceded and formulate your own view.

No edge. Just an informed 'guess'.  Then there's staking....another big issue! You'll find yourself laying higher prices which if caught can wipe a lot of your bank/profit.

Good luck anyway.  Looking forward to new season starting!
By:
Bridgeboy
When: 02 Aug 10 22:17
Good to see you back DFC not been the same. . .
By:
OldGold
When: 02 Aug 10 22:40
If a new thread for the season ahead is started and this drops away, I'd just like to say well done to all posters and it has been a great read.
By:
Avocado
When: 02 Aug 10 23:40
This is mugs stuff. The real money is in match odds, backing and laying.
By:
Avocado
When: 02 Aug 10 23:41
The problem with laying correct scores on here is that you can't get the value price that the bookies lay at. The prices are all inflated on here.
By:
sevey
When: 03 Aug 10 09:51
Welcome Back DFC
By:
Bet of the Decade
When: 03 Aug 10 09:54
Avocado..

'The real money is in match odds, backing and laying'.

Do you mean liquidity for the amounts you are wanting to trade or better value to return profit?

I sometimes find 'value' or what I perceive to be 'value' in the HT/FT markets.

GL.
By:
REM
When: 03 Aug 10 10:08
It's a fair point. Most markets are derived from only two factors. Goal supremacy (how much better one team is than the other)and goal expectation (how many goals is the match likely to produce). If either of these are wrong, value will be found and found most easily in match odds or overs/unders, but also in many other linked markets. For a CS to offer value, these other markets will offer value too.

CS prices are not inflated, it's just that bookies are carrying a healthy margin.
By:
sevey
When: 03 Aug 10 10:09
Decade like betting a team double result then if in front at half time lay it back ?
By:
Avocado
When: 03 Aug 10 17:17
Bet of the Decade I mean big punters (not me) make money out of the match odds. Six figure bets on teams to win, that sort of thing.
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 03 Aug 10 17:31
mmmmmm
By:
Avocado
When: 03 Aug 10 17:48
Or big lays of short price favourites.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 18 Jan 11 23:25
ttt for acornel...the bad losses were from JUNE 2010 throughout World Cup
By:
acornel
When: 18 Jan 11 23:44
wow, nice to read this thread! really good lessons to learn for me!
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