My opinion on going full-time/earning a living on Betfair.

odwyer is one of those people who loves attention whether its good or bad. He probably walks down the street with "i am a complete**" written on his forehead just so people notice him.

You really are on another planet..........

Some on here are more blatant in their idiocy, but I genuinely think that you surpass everyone in that regard.

Callataxi, learn how to spell conservative, then I will give you an example.


conservative. there u go odwyer im really sry for typing wrong letter, but have typed it for u now, awaiting example of a conservative bet now ty.

I know.....

I'm sure he'd make a facsinating physchological case study........

Once you could get past his external - I'm a boring f*ckwit - appearence.

fascinating even

And Psychological too :^0

Odwyer
Unless you are finding and exploiting good value odds, then it doesn't matter one iota when you are betting on an event ( before or during, at the beginning or at the end etc) or what the actual sport is.
It also doesn't matter whether the odds are short or long.
You give no indication that you know how to find good value, and unless you can do that, you never will become the successful professional gambler that you seem so earnestly to desire to be.

YOULITTLEBOOTY

Only time will tell.

In 3/4 months, I'll get a better idea if how it will go etc.

Can't profit from that "sport" without gambling.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Breath

Hahahahahahahahahaha

Breath

Hahahahahahahahaha

O.K. I've composed myself to post this...

Horse Racing / Ling 5th Mar : 7f Hcap 06-Mar-08 03:10 06-Mar-08 03:15 200
Horse Racing / Catt 5th Mar : 2m Nov Hrd 06-Mar-08 02:50 06-Mar-08 03:02 200
Horse Racing / Ling 5th Mar : 7f Mdn Stks 06-Mar-08 02:40 06-Mar-08 02:47 200
Horse Racing / Catt 5th Mar : 2m Mdn Chs 06-Mar-08 02:20 06-Mar-08 02:32 200
Horse Racing / Font 5th Mar : 2m4f Hcap Chs 06-Mar-08 02:00 06-Mar-08 02:07 200
Horse Racing / Ling 5th Mar : 1m4f Claim Stks 06-Mar-08 01:40 06-Mar-08 01:44 200
Horse Racing / Sthl 4th Mar : 1m Hcap 05-Mar-08 03:40 05-Mar-08 03:44 200
Horse Racing / Extr 4th Mar : 2m3f Nov Chs 05-Mar-08 03:00 05-Mar-08 03:10 200
Horse Racing / Extr 4th Mar : 3m6f Hcap Chs 05-Mar-08 02:30 05-Mar-08 02:46 200
Horse Racing / Sthl 4th Mar : 1m4f Hcap 05-Mar-08 02:40 05-Mar-08 02:45 200
Horse Racing / Sthl 4th Mar : 1m3f Sell Stks 05-Mar-08 02:10 05-Mar-08 02:19 200
Horse Racing / Extr 4th Mar : 2m3f Nov Hrd 05-Mar-08 02:00 05-Mar-08 02:13 200
Horse Racing / Newc 4th Mar : 2m Nov Hrd 05-Mar-08 01:50 05-Mar-08 02:01 -200
Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Mar : 1m Hcap 04-Mar-08 04:20 04-Mar-08 04:24 100
Horse Racing / Strat 3rd Mar : 2m3f Hcap Hrd 04-Mar-08 03:00 04-Mar-08 03:10 100
Horse Racing / Ling 3rd Mar : 7f Hcap 04-Mar-08 02:40 04-Mar-08 02:43 100
Horse Racing / Strat 3rd Mar : 2m1f Nov Chs 04-Mar-08 02:30 04-Mar-08 02:39 100
Horse Racing / Ling 3rd Mar : 1m2f Mdn Stks 04-Mar-08 01:40 04-Mar-08 01:44 100
Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Mar : 1m6f Hcap 04-Mar-08 01:20 04-Mar-08 01:25 100
Horse Racing / Clon 2nd Mar : 2m INHF 03-Mar-08 04:15 03-Mar-08 04:24 -200
Horse Racing / Bang 2nd Mar : 2m1f NHF 03-Mar-08 04:00 03-Mar-08 04:12 -300
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m INHF 03-Mar-08 03:55 03-Mar-08 04:05 100
Horse Racing / Bang 2nd Mar : 2m4f Hcap Chs 03-Mar-08 03:30 03-Mar-08 03:48 -300
Horse Racing / MrktR 2nd Mar : 2m6f Hcap Chs 03-Mar-08 03:40 03-Mar-08 03:47 100
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m1f Nov Chs 03-Mar-08 03:25 03-Mar-08 03:39 100
Horse Racing / Hunt 2nd Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 03-Mar-08 03:20 03-Mar-08 03:25 100
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m5f Hcap Chs 03-Mar-08 02:55 03-Mar-08 03:17 100
Horse Racing / Clon 2nd Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 03-Mar-08 02:45 03-Mar-08 02:55 100
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 03-Mar-08 02:25 03-Mar-08 02:41 -400
Horse Racing / MrktR 2nd Mar : 2m2f Nov Chs 03-Mar-08 02:10 03-Mar-08 02:18 100
Horse Racing / Bang 2nd Mar : 2m1f Nov Hrd 03-Mar-08 02:00 03-Mar-08 02:09 100
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m Hrd 03-Mar-08 01:55 03-Mar-08 02:06 100


Simply add up how it can't be done ;)

beat the overound:
Dont let idiots get under your skin.........keep doing what you very good at, let chancers keep trying to get free info.

Beat the overound. Big deal. A few days of luck. Come back in 3 months.

I won't see you though, because you won't have any noteworthy profit to show.

You can't profit long-term from Horse-racing.

What can a long term profit be made on then Odwyer?

Without gambling, that is.

If you gamble and you win at the horses, well done. You've had good luck.

There is no system for horse-racing. No system works. Guess work. Gambling. Avoidment.

No point in coming back in 3 months Odwyer, you're internet will be disconnected by then :D

Troy McClure 05 Mar 16:34


What can a long term profit be made on then Odwyer?


A plan.

See post 1.

3 factors that are highlighted. Can't miss them.

Beat The OverRound 05 Mar 16:36


No point in coming back in 3 months Odwyer, you're internet will be disconnected by then

No problem. I will not see you in 3 months. Case closed.

;-)

I won't see you because you will have no profit to show from HR in 3 months.

That's HR for you.

Either Odwyer is a master fisherman, or incredibly low intelligence

One of those outcomes can be backed at 1.08 ;)

Yeah it was a fluke...

Horse Racing / Catt 5th Mar : 3m1f Hcap Chs 06-Mar-08 03:20 06-Mar-08 03:33 200

:D

I can only assume from hereon in that this is simply a fishing expedition.

No-one can be so blinkered into thinking they are right and everyone else is wrong, can they?

I am on the verge of increasing my bank to 2,000.
Considering this has been my full time job these past few months

I have a feeling Odwyer lives on 2 minute noodles and has a trained monkey peddling for electricity.

Get real mate.

D_U.

There is no right and wrong.

I'll be back here in 3/4 months and only then will you know the answer. Evidence will be provided.

The monkey is teaching him how to ride a bike. Stabalisers are not yet ready to come off. Nearly though... 3-4 months.

Beat The OverRound 05 Mar 16:42


I am on the verge of increasing my bank to 2,000.
Considering this has been my full time job these past few months

I have a feeling Odwyer lives on 2 minute noodles and has a trained monkey peddling for electricity.

Get real mate.


:D

You're the one betting on horses. How do you know the horses state of mind on the morning of the race? Who are you, the forum Dr Dolittle?

Odwyer, quit while you're ahead, you are showing your ignorance of why bookmakers win and punters lose regardless of knowing nothing about a horse's mind.
Nice try at deflection, but you've been punting on here for a few months and clearly show a distinct lack of savvy and punting maturity.
Take your $2,000 and do something constructive.
You cannot live of a bank of $2,000 talking about 1.01 shots and Dr Dolittle.

why do u bother starting threads when almost without exception u answer peoples questions and responses with a differing view? u still havent given me an example of a conservative bet yet have u? amazing that u have been on here for such a short time and yet apparently know it all. ive been gambling/involved in bookmaking longer than u have been on this earth, yet im sure u have much more knowledge than me!!

Without trying to sound clever, I feel like Gordon Ramsey here teaching a load of failed gamblers how to profit.

I really should change.

:D

here u'll need this soon http://www.gamblingtherapy.org/

People have been punting longer than you've been alive, been on betfair ten times longer than you and understand odds and percentages.

You're not Gordon Ramsey, you're the retaurant that went under because they didn't listen to him.

Beat The OverRound 05 Mar 17:00


Odwyer, quit while you're ahead, you are showing your ignorance of why bookmakers win and punters lose regardless of knowing nothing about a horse's mind.
Nice try at deflection, but you've been punting on here for a few months and clearly show a distinct lack of savvy and punting maturity.
Take your $2,000 and do something constructive.
You cannot live of a bank of $2,000 talking about 1.01 shots and Dr Dolittle.

How about you stick you unwanted advice and series of "hahahahahah's" that only a school boy would, use strictly where the sun doesn't shine? ;-D

I will not take any advice from someone who claims to make money from the horses. Can't be done. I dont care what anyone says. I also know proof will never come my way - hence I wont even bother asking.

Long term racing system do not exist, nor work. The proof is the fact that there is no proof.

I am confident in what I talk about. It will require what I have stated in my initial post. I know you and others won't read it all because you are so up your own backsides, so just look at the 3 highlighted words. If I can pass them, then my knowledge on most sports should work for itself.

Hahahahaha

Yeah, I know it's schoolboy stuff, but I just can't help it when a comedy show comes to town.

You want proof - try looking at bookmakers and the tote for a start.

Proof positive ;)

You need to understand WHY they profit before saying it doesn't work.

yr knowledge on most sports? u didnt even know the rules on a tie in cricket the other day. u said something along the lines of i wont believe that i havent lost my money until i see betfair have settled this!! mark webster apparently in the bdo darts was a pub player, of course he ended up winning. i could go on, but why bother, u only start threads to disagree with every view that is put to u. hows that example of a conservative bet looking?

I'm starting to believe that this is surely the best wind up thread of the year ( so far at least).
I'm particularly surprised that BTO seems to have gotten so taken in, by responding in so much detail and with such reative respect.

"relative

yep, definite troll/windup merchant/politician

104 posts,

nice haul.

Cricket is probably my weakest sport, granted. Other then that, you're posting fables, lies and exaggerations, callataxi. It seems a strength you have is buillsh!tting and misguiding people.

Other then Cricket, I'm knowledgeable on most sports, thank you very much.

he posts on most forums, and almost every post by him sounds like someone who is a complete novice at gambling and has barely any knowledge of said sport. if hes fishing, then he must be doing it constantly then. i think u will find hes just some deluded young pup who likes a punt and has just turned to gambling on here from being a regular in a betting shop.

im convinced !! hey guys, even you lot who have been making profit the last 6 or 7 years on here, the guy might have a point, its impossible!!! its pure fluke , you wont carry it on for the next 3 months !! ;)

would be bet on 2 flys going up a wall

Callataxi, would definitely bet on 2 flies on the wall. He has no control over what he gambles on and changes his mind constantly. To be honest, he might as well take up betting on Bandy.

Like I say, and I really don't need to post it again, but will.

3/4 months, I'll be back here with screens to show my progress, all based on what I wrote initially.

Sidchrome

thankfully u have no idea on what i bet on and certainly have no knowledge on how i make a profit. of course i have posted a few times what sports i do trade, but u never take any notice of anyone elses viewpoint. i just see u cut and pasting people responses and offering a differing view, havent seen any signs of someone who is either likeable or knowledgeable or even modest!!

Calltaxi, you will go through 10 times more stress the I will using your system. And even if you claim to make 1,000's of pounds via some system, keep it. I'd never use a system from a car-salesman type punter.

people like odear are paying my mortgage off early
cheers

Potato, won't happen.

Also, boasting about that will get you no where. I'd suggest you and Callatraxi both use your big wads of cash, and go and get an education.

:D

odwyer1980 05 Mar 17:47


Calltaxi, you will go through 10 times more stress the I will using your system. And even if you claim to make 1,000's of pounds via some system, keep it. I'd never use a system from a car-salesman type punter.

what system have i got then? ive never told u one. why should i be stressed by it? my life gambling wise is remarkably stress free on the whole. what is a car salesman type punter then?

Ok, this thread has gone off topic now. I think I'll keep it to facts.

If you wish to spam it with drivel, then go ahead. ;-)

I think for small stakes you probably could make a long-term profit nicking pennies on markets that are almost over. The fundamental problem is these bets are rarely available for decent amounts, so for the time invested you would be better off working in McDonald's.

Owdyer is a case in point - he claimed to have gone full-time in November, yet he has only made a couple of grand so far. How can anyone live on that sort of money unless they live with their parents and never go out? It's not much of a lifestyle - defeats the object of being a full-time punter in the first place.

My advice is to go get a job while you improve your punting.

sensible advice knight rider,although it's eminently more enjoyable to watch an incredibly arrogant,pedigree mug slowly do his dough

Telegram to odwyer80:

please don't ever let him stop

3/4 months, I'll be back here with screens to show my progress, all based on what I wrote initially.

Based on the experience and knowledge you have demonstrated in this thread you'd better get yourself a copy of paintshop pro.

What does full time even mean? A lot of sport is played in the evenings and weekends, all you'd miss during the day is maybe some tennis, ocassionally cricket, and horse racing if at work, but you can easily still do a bit of betting in your lunch hours too, or even at your desk if your company is lenient!

Don't know why this is broken down into either/or scenarios all the time.

"Full time" gambling does not strike me as a healthy lifestyle either. Isolating, pressure to make money, no perspective with too much focus on gambling, why not just have the best of both worlds, a stable job to take care of the bills, and top up with winnings on here?

who give him a job, he'd pi$$ everyone off, cos he knows it all, he can't take advice ;-)

My favourite 'I'm going Pro' thread :)

Pure class.

:D

He didnt get back in 3/4 months then?

what happened to odwyer?

He's posting on bet da q, still exactly the same as he was on here, he even has a blog nowadays ;)

what is the blog called

found it.

buzzer your name is a shocking ommission from the list as is the INVESTOR.

Last two months made about £200 each about 20% of bank. Most stock market fund managers would do anything to achieve that! But not enough to live on! Everyones needs are different for myself £1000 a month profit I'd give up my job. Find a few good systems.Ideally one for different sports. The above was for football, have a good one for flat racing and always looking for an edge.
Also approach it as a part-time business,keep records,etc,also read some philosophy & physcology.You can if you believe you can!

Hope it helps

Agree tony. I make a similar amount from arbing, trading and bonus hunting but could never live on the amounts I make (or at least live comfortably). Happy to spend an hour a day doing it but no more than that now. Full time it would be a different ball game, and imo probably one of the most boring jobs you could do ;)

betfair banned owdyer.

Its hard belive me my turnover is about 80k per month 2% profit

Bridgeboy 03 Feb 09:27

He didnt get back in 3/4 months then?

Ove the next 3/4 months he started a string of some of the most calamitous tipping threads ever seen on Betfair.

The most spectacular being one that he abandoned after back to back lays of football teams @14 and 80 , both of which won .

During that time he also layed the winner of Britains Got Talent at 30+ as well as countless other classics.

:^0 :^0 :^0

Remind me, what is the address for his blog? I could do with a laugh.

http://odwyer1980.blogspot.com/

Well done that man.

Update 17:50pm: MONEY TREE was taken off due to ** voting. Feel free to vote again. £100 awaits the winner.



This is the best betfair poster poll. How can Money Tree not be listed? He would be a clear winner.

what has happened to betfairy?

is alex unwrinkled on purple an imposter/

at least one Odwyer thread needs to survive the cull :)

A Chance for people to invest in Odwyer's Pro Punting - and share in the profits - has arisen ......

Basically, I've messed up big style. I have won consistently on Betfair in the past, making around 27k in total from February to September last year and was even lucky enough to go to Flushing Meadows in New York and Wimbledon for the tennis, but in the last month it has gone very wrong because I have taken far too many risks. And because of this I have lost my bank and now have no funds left to work with. :-(

I am writing this to ask if anyone out there would be so kind as to lend me some funds to start again so I can build it up slowly into the numbers I made last year. I am very confident, and if you could do this, I will not only pay you back, but I will give you a massive slice of any profit I make in future on Betfair - which I expect to do.

I know this is asking a lot as you do not know me, but I will totally make it worth your while in future if anyone could do this.


Posted, then deleted , from his blog

but saved by someone and posted here by Buzzer

get a job... you mug lol

If I started a 2k bank I could turn it into 100k in a year. It is do-able but it would take time, patience and consistent divisions of the bank into loads of markets and sports bets in order to minimise any potential losses.

I may attempt this in May and see my luck...

c0ck

Starting Again
It feels that way anyway. I have 250 pounds so I'll see where it goes. It's not ideal of course as it's no where near a big enough starting bank to make a go of this, but I have little choice at the moment. I'll have to be extra careful and build it into something more manageable.

Thanks and good luck all!

Looks like he is back on the Road........but for how long

I am still confident of making money on Betfair, but without any funds, this is obviously an impossible task.


At least he's confident

Some of the mindless drivel i've read on a couple of forums by the viper reminds me alot of odwyer.

Viper does it on purpose, Odwyer was a simpleton.

ttt

does anyone make money on betfair

im relatively new to betfair and im down ten grand i cant get a handle on it so i need advice

is there any edges to be had out there please advise

This is an old thread lisa - from years ago. A lot of it is wrong as well.

Is there a reason why you're down that much btw?

I can only assume she followed your tips.

Let it go Lori, you are better than resorting to getting digs in on somebody who so obviously needs some sort of help ( and I don't mean funds )

Did someone loan you £200?
I see you've lost over half of it already! You need to knock this on the head and seek help!

[;)]

Does Humpty Dumpty get a mention on this thread?

That guy has absolutely no disipline, I must say after reading his blog. Why would people want to be a fulltime gambler anyway? As one said, it must be a very boring and lonely "job". Im happy that I have a really exciting job, and can afford being a sparetime gambler or whatever you want to call it

He has no idea how to make money gambling, this thread demonstrates that quite clearly.

Why would people want to be a fulltime gambler anyway? As one said, it must be a very boring and lonely "job". Im

happy that I have a really exciting job, and can afford being a sparetime gambler or whatever you want to call it

_______________

you've answered your own  question -  not many folk have a really exciting job

Why would people want to be a fulltime gambler anyway?

------------

it's an ego thing. except for people who make enough that it's a money thing, who tend to have their egos pretty well under control.

Why would I want a job? :p

Nothing wrong with it being an ego thing. It has to be one of the most difficult professions/trades to succeed in.