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22 Feb 10 21:19
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| Topic/replies: 170 | Blogger: Sliced!!!'s blog
Esteemed Dr Slicer,

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Report Slicer February 23, 2010 7:45 AM GMT
This is Dr Slicer's answering service.
Dr Slicer will be hear between 2pm and 3pm UK time today.
It must also be pointed out that stalkers are eliminated with extreme prejudice.
Report DONEMYLOT February 23, 2010 12:00 PM GMT
or just cut up roughly
Report tol5tov February 23, 2010 12:02 PM GMT
Report Sliced!!! February 23, 2010 5:30 PM GMT

I'm not a stalker, I just had a few questions that was all!

I cannot attend between 2pm and 3 pm.

How's about 8pm and 9pm today?
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 7:25 AM GMT
I cracked what you were doing DR!
Report Slicer February 27, 2010 7:27 AM GMT
Well done!

I hope you live long and prosper!
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 7:29 AM GMT
Will you confirm if I post a couple of questions to you?

And I thought you only played Correct Scores now?
Report Slicer February 27, 2010 7:32 AM GMT
I do correct scores mainly, but I love trying out new things on horse racing betting.

I am only here for 10 minutes, and I must warn you that revealing anything on this forum will affect the prices and everyone will be doing it.
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 7:34 AM GMT
My thoughts exactly!


How would you suggest I reveal what you were doing?
Report Slicer February 27, 2010 7:38 AM GMT
Revealing wot I am doing is not a good idea because it will affect prices. If anyone works out what I am doing it wont really bother me as I will just stop doing it when it becomes unprofitable. I am independently wealthy so it wont really bother me and I shall move on.
And as you have cracked it, you really do not need to ask me any questions, do you!
Report betti78 February 27, 2010 7:38 AM GMT
finally after weeks of calculating, studying and predicting odds movement i also found the magic bet3.... :-) this makes me dr.betti!!!!!!
Report Slicer February 27, 2010 7:40 AM GMT
betti- well done. But I am a double Doctor being a PhD and MB BS and I am registrated.
Have you been registrated, Betti?
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 7:42 AM GMT
I do not wish to reveal what I think I discovered on an open thread doctor but I do not seem to have any kind of PM system available to me on this forum?
Report Slicer February 27, 2010 7:43 AM GMT
Well- it's 2.12 hear in Mumbai so I can only stasy another 5 mins as I have to take my cats Panther and Tiger for a walk.
Report betti78 February 27, 2010 7:44 AM GMT
@sliced just use the "old" email way
@slicer, won't post my bet3 on here, email?
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 7:45 AM GMT
So how would I convey what I know for confirmation by your good self?
Report Slicer February 27, 2010 7:46 AM GMT
Sliced- I cancelled the e mail address I gave to certain BetFairians because some passed it on to others and I actually received begging e mails, some of which were very sad and upsetting if they were true.
So I no longer reveal an e mail address. The only thing I will tell you is that if you really have found out the method, you will know from the results and financial rewards. You should not need to reveal anything to anyone or ask any questions.
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 7:47 AM GMT
I am aware of that DR. You are now quite a famous man!

Try and Google "Slicer's bet" and see what you find!!

I would be happy to post my email address if you would be so good as to respond?
Report betti78 February 27, 2010 7:48 AM GMT
you dont have to tell, just to discuss our strategies. opened an email account and will delete this account after received your email...
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 7:50 AM GMT
Who are you talking to betti?

Me or the Dr?
Report Slicer February 27, 2010 7:54 AM GMT
Just googled Slicers bet and I cannot believe it.
I didn't even realise there was such interest never having googled it before.

I can only stress that you should keep it all to yourselves and reiterate that the only confirmation you need is not from me but from your own bank account. If youve cracked it you will make much monet. The last bunch of begging e mails I received included supposed cancer sufferers, jobless down to their last penny etc and I found this very upsetting, so I will now NEVER reveal an e mail address.

Must go now, not sure when I will be back on the forum, so good luck and thanks for the interest.
Report betti78 February 27, 2010 7:55 AM GMT
to you sliced. Dr.Slicer is the man who started this whole "holy grail" thing. i do respect that and i am glad of the hints he gave us. obviously there are 2 people who had found what bet3 was/is. Maybe there are different opportunities to place this magic third bet. maybe we could discuss this and found out if our bets are different.

if so, maybe there is a combination of our 2 bets that will result in even more profit.
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 8:00 AM GMT
ok betti!

how do you propose i contact you then?
Report betti78 February 27, 2010 8:02 AM GMT
my email is barstreet at web in germany
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 8:03 AM GMT
Enjoy your fame!!

I will never disclose the method on here for I am not stupid!

Just good to talk that's all!

You even have a thread about you on a Slovenian forum!!
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 8:03 AM GMT
betti could you not type it in regular email format?
Report betti78 February 27, 2010 8:08 AM GMT
think betfair will make it unreadable, but may give it a go.
Report betti78 February 27, 2010 8:09 AM GMT
works fine, will delete this account after you emailed
Report Sliced!!! February 27, 2010 8:17 AM GMT
ok!will email as soon as possible!

Report betti78 February 27, 2010 8:37 AM GMT
thanks, i wrote back
Report FunBob February 27, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
Kmabet, twinkletoes and now you are Sliced!! - you were banned twice on UK Betting tips I believe. For PRETENDING to have found Slicers bet. You did kindly offer to look at other peoples ideas via PM's- to let them know if they were close to the Holy Grail - which you assured everyone - YOU HAD CRACKED!!!

Great scam Sliced!!!

Take care guys.
Report sweetchildofmine February 27, 2010 10:46 PM GMT
yeah its him...its already been proved by someone that had contact with slicer that the whole ..holy grail.. thing was a con and no less
Report betti78 February 28, 2010 8:07 AM GMT
can confirm the post above :-)
Report Slicer February 28, 2010 9:34 AM GMT
I am only posting on this thread AGAIN to inform all and sundry that at no time have I told anyone that the Holy Grail is a con or a scam. If you read through every posting I have ever made on this subject you will see that I have NEVER offered it for sale or offered to reveal it.

I have had several e mails from people asking for details and some begging e mails.

Indeed one of these e mailers had an e mail supposedly from me asking for details so that he could could confirm the details. That was his way of trying to get hold of the method.

Let me point this out- I have cancelled that e mail address and will not accept any e mails. I was prepared to enter into discussion and banter on here with regard to the Holy Grail, but will not now do so because my name has been associated with a scam or a con. This is a pity, what with the World Cup approaching with many opportunities.


This is my last posting on this thread unless I am personally insulted. And if that happens, WATCH OUT!
Report Hopeless bettor February 28, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
Heh heh
Report Trevh February 28, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
To the gullible...

If there was a holy grail system/method it wouldn't last very long as more and more people attempted to exploit it in a mad rush to make hay before the sun went down.

BF operatives would know exactly where to look and easilly identify it, which would make anyone boasting of such a method rather foolish, unless of course said claim was BS. :)
Report sweetchildofmine March 1, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
slicer it wasnt me that said the holy grail was a was said by posters on ukbt that claim to have been in contact with you in the far as i know no money ever changed hands, so at worst, people have wasted a lot of their valuable time in pursuit of this
Report Slicer March 1, 2010 7:31 AM GMT
Glad to hear it wasn't you.
You see this is what you get if you have e mail contact with certain forumites. They claim all sorts of things. and it led to someone impersonating me by e mail. I can categorically state that I have never revealed the method to anyone and have never said it is a myth. But this won't happen again on my part because that e mail address no longer exists AND I SHALL NOT BE IN E MAIL CONTACT AGAIN WITH ANYONE REGARDING THIS SUBJECT.

Definition of a scam:

1. A ploy by a shyster to raise money.
2., A fraudulent business scheme. To scam means to victimize: deprive of by deceit; "He swindled me out of my inheritance"; "She defrauded the customers who trusted her"; "the cashier gypped me when he gave me too little change"
3. A confidence trick, confidence game, or con for short (also known as a scam) is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the mark) usually with the goal of financial or other gain. The confidence trickster, con man, scam artist or con artist often works with an accomplice called the shill, who tries to encourage the mark by pretending to believe the trickster.

I certainly do not qualify. I have nothing to gain financially, and as no one knows the method, the odds cannot be manipulated in the same way that certain racing punters tip horses to get the odds shortened so they can lay them at better prices or vice versa.

It is not me who keeps reviving this subject, and as it appears to be causing such ill feeling, I suggest that the whole matter is allowed to drop. This is a great pity as big international competitions like the Euro and World Cups seem to provide greater opportunity as there is no league form to follow so some prices are out of kilter.

I didn't even know about the discussion on other sites until it was pointed out on this thread.

Anyway, that's all I have to say, so I'm off for a bit of tiffin.
Report sweetchildofmine March 3, 2010 3:36 AM GMT
Sliced!!! 27 Feb 08:25

I cracked what you were doing DR!

Report sweetchildofmine March 3, 2010 3:37 AM GMT
Sliced!!! 15 Feb 20:15

Anybody ever crack this??????

Report whelk March 3, 2010 6:32 PM GMT
I won't say that it can never happen, but there does not appear, following a detailed spreadsheet analysis, to be three bets, starting with a lay of HT 0-0, that can guarantee a return in all circumstances. There are some FT scores that are unlikely to occur after a HT 0-0, but the fact that they are possible invalidates the claim.

It occurred to me that that encouraging punters to lay HT 0-0 might tweak the odds a bit, and an investigation of sequences containing a 0-0 HT back produces several dynamic overround sequences which require a lot of management to guarantee a small return.
Report sweetchildofmine March 3, 2010 6:58 PM GMT
if there was a loophole, those sharp minds within bf would exploit it fully
Report Sliced!!! March 3, 2010 8:55 PM GMT

are you itcata?

have you ever seen this proof???

just because YOU cannot do something, it doesn't not mean it cannot be done!

you take it as gospel what your little pals (who you probably don't know) say on other forums, yet Dr Slicer is now a legend worldwide and yet you come here and insult him!

why don't you explain to the rest of the forum where this proof has come from?
Report kingmax March 3, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
funny i heard of this system on a betting forum..

the thread was over 50 pages long. and everyone come to the conclusion its a wind up.

think it goes something like.

3 bets.

bet 1.. lay 0-0 HT
bet 2..back 0-0 FT.

but nobody can work out bet 3. if it does exist it must be from a 3rd market?
Report ROB_D March 3, 2010 10:08 PM GMT
Sliced!!! 03 Mar 21:55


are you itcata?

have you ever seen this proof???

just because YOU cannot do something, it doesn't not mean it cannot be done!

you take it as gospel what your little pals (who you probably don't know) say on other forums, yet Dr Slicer is now a legend worldwide and yet you come here and insult him!

why don't you explain to the rest of the forum where this proof has come from?

i think thats taking it a bit too far its only bettting ffs
Report FunBob March 3, 2010 10:39 PM GMT
This attack of sweetchildofmine is a tired old but favored tactic of Sliced!!!. He offers nothing new. He twists words, squirms and wriggles, slings mud, avoids personal scrutiny. He truly is an attention seeking moron with a long tongue and a taste for sh1t.

Dr Slicer really is a legend, if only for his wit, charm, entertainment and mystery. And for his love of tiffin and Carol Vorderman.

Sliced!!! is not on the same level. He is desperate to be the Dr's buddy. He can offer nothing, he pretends a lot - yet knows fk all, he knows we know he knows fk all. He plays on his own in junior league, lives in la la land and owns a small, empty net.
Report sweetchildofmine March 3, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
slicer is totally harmless and whether or not his system is foolproof is his business, but he is a character no doubt....sliced however has cropped up on numerous forums claiming to have cracked it, but inviting others to email him with their findings, so he can see if they are nearly there...hence picking the brains of many wihout any work or input by himself
Report tobermory March 3, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
I still don't believe in this stuff , good fun though :)

FWIW Slicer's original thread on this , from the Euro 2008 Forum , can still be viewed in gubbed (though not ttt'd)
Report Slicer March 4, 2010 10:49 AM GMT
I can not read this thread again without passing on my thanks to Mr Mine and Mr Bob for there very kind comments. I am a very modest person. In fact modesty is one of my many outstanding attributes. Harmless-NEVER, disarming-ALWEIGHS! I am truly amazed at the coverage of all this on other forums, I never realised that this had occurred. I would guess it is down to Sliced and his alter egos and possibly a few others.

I re read the Euro thread wot you kindly posted a link to and it brought back fond memories. Thank you.

I really would not wish for any nastiness or ill feeling to arise from this matter, and one cannot blame punters adopting subterfuge to try to get hold of successful systems. BUT- that is why I stopped taking e mails.

As far as being a world legend in my own lifetime, an ex girfriend did state once that I was a legend in my own bathtime, but that is another matter.

Finally-I could not believe that I was able lay HT 0-0 at 3.5 and back FT 0-0 at 15 in the Ingerland game yesterday before ko. The World Cup in Saaarf Afreeeeeeka will certainly present grate opportunities!

Anyway off for tiffin now, and with regard to Carol Vorderman, it was a rumour put about by a certain tv presenting lady in an effort to get hold of my Holy Grail.

Good luck from

Your friend and his,

Dr Aristotle Slicer PhD MB BS B Pharm MRCVS DRCOG Cert BHD
Consultant in Almost Everything
Report Rockinron March 4, 2010 3:42 PM GMT
Ooooooh lots of red herrings in here ....but many thanks to this thread managed to work it out .....EUREKA !

Lets face it boys ...if you come up with a winning formula - the last thing you'd want to do is share it with ANYBODY !

Many thanks Dr. Slicer
Report Sliced!!! March 5, 2010 2:16 PM GMT
Sweetchildofmine offers no proof whatsoever.

Yet accuses my good self of avoiding questions, slinging mud etc, etc, etc....

It's boring and very hypocritical.

You do not know me or anything about me child!

I have no desire to become Dr Slicer! I merely came here to thank him for his good work and commend him on his genius.

And another small point before I go,

How can you know what I know if I have never told you????
Report FunBob March 5, 2010 2:41 PM GMT
You're so dumb. Re-read the posts before replying.
And remember "Tis far better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
Report Slicer March 5, 2010 2:44 PM GMT
Please- no arguements and no unpleasantness.
You'll put me off my tiffin!
Report Ivor March 5, 2010 3:03 PM GMT
oh come on Dr.Slicer - EXPOSE yourself!
Report Slicer March 5, 2010 3:06 PM GMT
Not likely- I had enough trouble when I had an erection in the garden when I lived in the UK. The neighbour saw it, reported me to the council and I had to have it knocked down!
Report boxingthefox March 5, 2010 3:06 PM GMT
Ivor, what a disgusting request, lol.
Report Ivor March 5, 2010 3:10 PM GMT
I understand - the United Police State of Great Britain and Northern Iceland :(
Report boxingthefox March 5, 2010 3:12 PM GMT
Slicer you could tell them because.....A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle.

Except on a Betting Exchange of course !!!
Report Slicer March 5, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
btf- because you is one good egg on hear, I have just lit a candle and litted another candle with the first candle as you requested.

I hope this of very grate assistance to my fellow general forumites!
Report boxingthefox March 5, 2010 3:20 PM GMT
Slicer, you are the bringer of light to this dark forum.
Report Slicer March 5, 2010 3:22 PM GMT
Many thanks for you're kind words.
I hope you and your family prosper.
Report boxingthefox March 5, 2010 3:24 PM GMT
I'm off for some tiffin myself now, catch you another time, cheers.
Report Slicer March 5, 2010 3:28 PM GMT
I'm logging off now to cos I am goaing to goa on a daytrip and have to get ready.
Good luck all especially on your football betting over the weakend.
Report sweetchildofmine March 5, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
enjoy your tiffin :)
Report sweetchildofmine March 5, 2010 4:25 PM GMT
slicer..are you indian?
Report Zola's Back Heel March 5, 2010 10:10 PM GMT
Good day Dr Slicer. Good to see you are still going strong.
One day, in some plaice, our paths will meat and I will shake you by the hand and by you a jin.

Dr Z.
Report dukeofpuke March 6, 2010 1:08 AM GMT
check the thread on ukbettingtips

the answers are there ;)

Report K8 March 6, 2010 2:09 AM GMT
I believe I have the answer. Bet 1 we know, Bet 2 we know and Bet 3 isnt just bet 3 but bet 3,4,5 and 6 rolled into one press of the submit button.
Report Sliced!!! March 6, 2010 5:20 PM GMT
Funbob, you don 't really sound like much fun!
Report tier March 8, 2010 3:06 PM GMT
Dear Dr. Slicer.
Can You confirm that holy grail still works and is profitable? Or how comes that You are again here in forums and laying whole banks on some horses although back in 2008 You claimed that from then on You will be betting exclusively on football correct scores?
Report Slicer March 8, 2010 6:40 PM GMT
Thank you for your interest Mr Tier.
You are correct that is wot I stated at the time. But in my never ending search for the perfect hoarse racing systim, already having found the perfect footie systim, I entertain myself during some of my now extremely limited leisure time.

I have had some success recently with The Jockey whose name contains a metal System and The If the hoarse drifts in the win market does the jokies silks have colours that clash System.

I hope this answers your very pertinent question.
Report dukeofpuke March 8, 2010 11:09 PM GMT
K8 06 Mar 03:09

I believe I have the answer. Bet 1 we know, Bet 2 we know and Bet 3 isnt just bet 3 but bet 3,4,5 and 6 rolled into one press of the submit button.

there is no answer

check ukbettingtips forum

the info is there about 50 pages
Report K8 March 9, 2010 4:43 AM GMT
There is an answer. I have it. Unfortunately I will not be sharing it. Obvious reasons.
Report sofiakenny March 9, 2010 6:51 AM GMT
i also have aquired the magic formula
Report Slicer March 9, 2010 7:28 AM GMT
I have a busy day ahead of me so my time is limited. But I want to congratulate those of you wot has cracked it.

Well done. Fortune aweights you during the forthcoming World Cup finals in Saaaaaaarf Afreeeeeeka.
Report Slicer March 9, 2010 7:30 AM GMT
btw- please do not tell anyone else cos the odds will be aphected and the prophets will be lessened.
Report tier March 9, 2010 11:03 AM GMT
Dear Dr. Slicer,

That answered exactly half of my question actually. Main question was that if Holy Grail is still profitable and doable? Because it seems that You are a little worried about it when asking here to reveal it to no one if someone should know it. Back in 2008 You were very comfortable that there is plenty to everyone and You were not so concerned about that when someone cracked it.
Report dukeofpuke March 9, 2010 11:46 AM GMT
go to ukbettingtips and read the 50 odd pages about this

you sad lot
Report Slicer March 9, 2010 12:16 PM GMT
Just finished my tiffin and dropped in to answer any relevantine questions before going out to fulfil my contract.

Mr Tier- are you a lawyer? :)

Again you have raised a valid point. I used to believe their was plenty for everywon. BUT- the prices for the Wigan/Lavapool game demonstrate that the prices is aphected. They were crepe to start with but the FT 0-0 shortened in the 10 mins before the game and this suggests to me more of cracked the method than wot is being admitted to. And it is quiet possible that those wot insult Sliced on the other forums and have a go at me may of cracked it and are trying to put people off because they too know the prices will be aphected.

Thank you for your interest and good luck.
Now I must go and "sort" a few things out.
Report tier March 9, 2010 2:57 PM GMT
Dr. Slicer,

First of all thank You for Your answer!

No I am not a lawyer :) I am just fascinated by Your "Holy Grail" and have been studying it for a long time now. I have read all Your and other's threads about it, have researched all the odds of the games You claimed to have been on, have even read Your threads before "Holy Grail" to see who You are and what were You doing. So I have done some really good and deep research. (Now if that makes me a sad lot dukeofpuke then at least before insulting someone make your facts clear. It is 75 pages that I have read all not 50!) But it is hard to pick out deeply truthful crumbs due to the contraversy in Your postings and that is why I asked these questions.
If it exists then I think I might be close and would like to ask couple of clarification questions but I cant do that in public because I dont want to give away my edge on this research. I have seen in forums false information posted as it was said by You but it actually wasnt and all the odds and so on... If people would just take some time to do a research of their own they would see that false information and I think the ones who are not willing to put effort in it dont deserve this also. So if there is a way to ask You few questions about "Holy Grail" let me know and I will leave my e-mail for You. And considering that incident with Your last email address I can only give You my word that I will not reveal it to anyone and I am a man of my word. But it is really up to You if You are willing to discuss these things a little.
Report hammer83 March 9, 2010 4:14 PM GMT
FAO slicer/sliced and whatever other accounts you have and get this crap off our forum you attention who_re.
Report boxingthefox March 9, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.
Report Slicer March 10, 2010 7:13 AM GMT
Mr 83- Thank you for your constructive comments. Next time you are passing any thread relating to this matter, please feel free to KEEP GOING without reading it." No Likeeee No Lookeeee" as Shang Eyed Jack once said!

I have stated before and will do so again, I have only one forum name. These days I only respond to postings, I do not initiate threads on this subject.

Mr Tier, I am very sorry, but after the last batch of e mails, some of which were quite upsetting (if they were true) I promised myself no more e mail contact. This is not directed at you personally, as I am sure you are a fine upstanding forumite. But I owe it to myself not to make any exceptions whatsoever.

Those who don't want discussion on this subject to continue- do not post, then I will not respomd. No need for name calling and unpleasantness. And with regard to attention seeking, my preference is for no attention whatsoever.

btw- at the moment the Manure v AC/DC Milan games DOES qualify for the method.

As i have a day off, I shall be back in time for the UK Hoarse racing to test out my latest Systim, so if you do not wish to hear from me again on this matter, SIMPLY DO NOT POST ON THIS THREAD!

Asta Latwista
Report sofiakenny March 10, 2010 11:18 AM GMT
anyone who doesnt have the intelligence to work out how its done has my sympathy....Slicer i shall forever be in your debt sir.
Report undern March 10, 2010 11:27 AM GMT
I thought I was fairly intelligent but unfortunately I can't see it :(
Report Slicer March 10, 2010 12:56 PM GMT
You are welcome sk. Glad you were able to work it out!

Now- off to trial The Horses That Smile while at the post Systim.

Good luck all!
Report tier March 10, 2010 1:07 PM GMT
I understand Dr. Slicer. I just have to keep working with slightly distorted information :)
Report Slicer March 10, 2010 1:25 PM GMT
I know what you mean. Unfortunately some peopul have claimed to be me in e mails and put out misleading info and also asked others to send there systims to him or her for confirmation.

I ONLY post on this site and NOT on any other site or forum. I do not exchange e mails as explained and I have no other BetFair forum user name. The only genuine stuff from me is on hear. No confirmation of a successful method is necessary from me cos, if it keeps winning, you've got it right!

Good luck.

I hope this is of assistance.
Report The_Laypreacher July 26, 2012 7:09 PM BST
Is this thread dead? Or maybe I've revived?
Report U.A. July 26, 2012 7:24 PM BST
Given that the last post was over 2 years ago it should be dead. At least I do hope it is.
Report cpfc4me July 28, 2012 9:37 PM BST
Two years on, and this is still being discussed?
Report Slicer July 29, 2012 7:48 AM BST
Just seen this!
That blog's entry is in 2010, so I do not think that qualifies as "still being discussed".

I cannot get over the fact that this thing has gone international and given rise to such conflicting opinions. Over the years, YES YEARS, since my first posting on this matter, I have had all sorts of messages: insulting, pleading for me to reveal the systim (including one from someone who said he was suffering from cancer so would I please help him out), other upsetting ones from people claiming to be poverty stricken destitute with ill children etc. However, I have also had great messages and have enjoyed much banter.

Someone actually impersonated me to contact someone to get some info out of them as it was thought they had cracked it. BUT the best one was someone who thought he had cracked the systim and went on to sell copies to the easily led and guess wot- they all lost on the first match. I only know this from reading the many threads that rose up on other forums. I didn't even know these forums existed until someone on the BetFair forums pointed this out to me.

Opinion on me is divided on this matter. Some think I am an arrogant, evil, self opinionated egotist craving attention who was working up to sell a systim. Some think I have several user names and was talking to myself on the various threads.Others think I have a good sense of humour and help out from time to time on various BetFair forums with bits of advice. You must all make up your own minds. In life, it is always nice to be liked. But really and truly, on these BetFair forums we are all anonymous names, so it really is not that important.

I have always said that I have only one user name and that the only gambolling forum on which I post is the BetFair forum. And those of you who read my posts will know that I have always quoted Phill Bull, the founder of Timeform,, "A goose that lays golden eggs is never for sale!" That is why I would never buy or sell a systim. If a systim works, why would anyone need to sell it, letting others in on the secret.

Please let this lie now. Reviving it serves no useful purpose and any further discussion on it will have to be without my input. My final word on the Holy Grail is
Report cpfc4me July 29, 2012 6:32 PM BST
The 'still being discussed' comment referred to this thread, not to the post from 2010.
Report Slicer July 29, 2012 7:19 PM BST
Ok, sorry I misunderstood your posting.
Please let this thread undergo the Laxative Effect and drop out of the bottom!

Thank you in advance!
Report U.A. July 29, 2012 7:53 PM BST
My final word on the Holy Grail is

Report U.A. July 29, 2012 7:55 PM BST
oh cr8p, how am i supposed to make sarcastic comments if i can't spell properly.
Report Calderid April 19, 2016 4:32 PM BST
...............bump  lol
Report Slicer April 21, 2016 3:15 PM BST
I am truly amazed that after all these years, there is still interest in this. Indeed, I was messing around on t'internet and found a new thread on a different esteemed gambolling forum. Some appear to be following this, almost as a religion. None of this is my work because the only forum I post on is Betfair, and I almost never do that these days.

More importantly, I am concerned about my old pal boxingthefox. I came across a thread which is of concern. I sincerely hope he is ok.

Anyway, kind regards to my friends and the opposite to my enemas!
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