New Posts For Thread: Laying at 20+ on betfairhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfairIs it a realistic path to success,study the race form and then lay a twenty to one or bigger shot if the market principals look strong,I am sure smarter than me have done it.You need an edge , or edges, plus a way to identify VALUE, whether it is to lay or back.wolf3011 is spot on re having an edge.You are playing Russian Roulette otherwise.......and a BLACK SWAN day will happen playing RR.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553791989#553791989You need an edge , or edges, plus a way to identify VALUE, whether it is to lay or back.wolf3011 is spot on re having an edge.You are playing Russian Roulette otherwise.......and a BLACK SWAN day will happen playing RR.Wed, 28 Mar 2018 03:37:24 -0500If the odds are accurate and statistically they are on betfair, whats it matter whether you lay at 12, 20 or 200? If you have no edge its completely irrelevant .https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553790389#553790389If the odds are accurate and statistically they are on betfair, whats it matter whether you lay at 12, 20 or 200? If you have no edge its completely irrelevant .Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:25:20 -0500Any horse,can win any race.(or nearly)8.10 NewcastlePrimos Comet 136.31 £25.17 £3,405.73https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553789397#553789397Any horse,can win any race.(or nearly)8.10 NewcastlePrimos Comet 136.31 £25.17 £3,405.73Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:17:30 -0500And maybe that just means more but less expensive losers.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553787851#553787851And maybe that just means more but less expensive losers.Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:12:23 -0500Might it be worth looking at laying odds between say 12 to 24/5. Every one layed makes laying the winner a little less painful and surely, on the basis that there Must be a lot of winners at lower odds, well?Just a thought.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553787717#553787717Might it be worth looking at laying odds between say 12 to 24/5. Every one layed makes laying the winner a little less painful and surely, on the basis that there Must be a lot of winners at lower odds, well?Just a thought.Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:47:15 -0500Which is pretty much what I said by advising that the last year of lays was not the norm, there was 2 winning years for layers in the last 10, and heavily down in total.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553783381#553783381Which is pretty much what I said by advising that the last year of lays was not the norm, there was 2 winning years for layers in the last 10, and heavily down in total.Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:48:18 -0500115 points profit equates to just 6 of those 20-1 shots coming in which over a random time could well occur, not that impressive avoiding 6 winners really is it as in a bad year you could have over ten meaning your banks wiped outhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553782707#553782707115 points profit equates to just 6 of those 20-1 shots coming in which over a random time could well occur, not that impressive avoiding 6 winners really is it as in a bad year you could have over ten meaning your banks wiped outMon, 26 Mar 2018 12:23:08 -0500Laying 20/1 shots will be profitable if they should really be a higher price. You can have all the systems in the world , handicaps , flat racing , this meeting , 20/1 shots etc etc but it all boils down to beating the price. If you are getting valuehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553781833#553781833Laying 20/1 shots will be profitable if they should really be a higher price. You can have all the systems in the world , handicaps , flat racing , this meeting , 20/1 shots etc etc but it all boils down to beating the price. If you are getting valueMon, 26 Mar 2018 09:11:30 -0500Hi DFCIRONMAN, all of them are horses that started at 21 on Betfair, odds vary from 3 that started at 7/1 up to 9 that started at 20/1 at ISP, there are no IR prices included at all.A couple of other figures to go with the 115.85 pts profit from layihttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553780837#553780837Hi DFCIRONMAN, all of them are horses that started at 21 on Betfair, odds vary from 3 that started at 7/1 up to 9 that started at 20/1 at ISP, there are no IR prices included at all.A couple of other figures to go with the 115.85 pts profit from layiMon, 26 Mar 2018 04:58:25 -0500That's a very good point DFC,The markets don't stop do they.What if you lay a 20 and the price tumbles at the off? Or vice versa.Maybe best to watch for 20s on the slide.This interesting stuff guys.Keep it coming.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30987579/laying-at-20-on-betfair?post_id=553780765#553780765That's a very good point DFC,The markets don't stop do they.What if you lay a 20 and the price tumbles at the off? Or vice versa.Maybe best to watch for 20s on the slide.This interesting stuff guys.Keep it coming.Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:29:49 -0500