New Posts For Thread: PC payers - Group Hughttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hugYou gotta love all this new moaning and whinging (welcome to the club) about the new hike in commission in various other countries! and the sooner the uk com level is increased to 10% also...... the better. why should i be on 20% or super pc level wttthttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537824051#537824051tttWed, 05 Feb 2014 10:41:19 -0600Thanks, a bigger question for me is- What is my rate of return on here? I estimate about 8% from bets I leave at a final position. With commission going up that could leave much less - maybe only 3% for me. Is it worth the negative health consequencehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537673361#537673361Thanks, a bigger question for me is- What is my rate of return on here? I estimate about 8% from bets I leave at a final position. With commission going up that could leave much less - maybe only 3% for me. Is it worth the negative health consequenceMon, 27 Jan 2014 13:39:04 -0600It very much affects 40 percenters too. More often than not the negative impact, measured in percent reduction of annual profit, will be greater for them actually. It's only half of the commission you actually pay that counts towards commission generhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537672989#537672989It very much affects 40 percenters too. More often than not the negative impact, measured in percent reduction of annual profit, will be greater for them actually. It's only half of the commission you actually pay that counts towards commission generMon, 27 Jan 2014 13:19:22 -0600Sorry I guess my point was for 40% PCers. But I can see where taking it off the top is more punishing. I just know I have to generate 40% total charges(some how) in their complicated calculation system.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537672383#537672383Sorry I guess my point was for 40% PCers. But I can see where taking it off the top is more punishing. I just know I have to generate 40% total charges(some how) in their complicated calculation system.Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:40:06 -0600^That's charges actually paid (not generated, which is shown on the PC portal).https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537662627#537662627^That's charges actually paid (not generated, which is shown on the PC portal).Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:25:53 -0600It's not quite a moot point for PC payers.If you are on 5% commission and 20% rate PC and Win £1,000 lose £750, you pay £50 commission and £13.75 PC for £186.25 net profit.Total Charges 25.50%If you are on 7% commission and 20% rate PC and Win https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537662607#537662607It's not quite a moot point for PC payers.If you are on 5% commission and 20% rate PC and Win £1,000 lose £750, you pay £50 commission and £13.75 PC for £186.25 net profit.Total Charges 25.50%If you are on 7% commission and 20% rate PC and Win Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:23:57 -0600For PC payers the new raise is a mute point. In theory we should now pay less PC. The only downside will be the tougher task of trying to recover from a losing run.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537662299#537662299For PC payers the new raise is a mute point. In theory we should now pay less PC. The only downside will be the tougher task of trying to recover from a losing run.Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:41:32 -0600i thought the pc was to advertise for new punters ?not to advertise for sportsbook, where newbies are directednew deductions will be like the old days of tax on bookies bets, willthere be a pop up offering the option to pay tax on bet, not winnings..https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537636885#537636885i thought the pc was to advertise for new punters ?not to advertise for sportsbook, where newbies are directednew deductions will be like the old days of tax on bookies bets, willthere be a pop up offering the option to pay tax on bet, not winnings..Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:21:01 -0600per month ... in my casehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537636525#537636525per month ... in my caseSat, 25 Jan 2014 16:03:48 -0600If a Company earned 4000 up to 5000 Euro from you, this Company normally should kiss your ass, but betfair instead kicked you in the ass.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30186289/pc-payers---group-hug?post_id=537636467#537636467If a Company earned 4000 up to 5000 Euro from you, this Company normally should kiss your ass, but betfair instead kicked you in the ass.Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:00:33 -0600