New Posts For Thread: Poor market depths and allowed bot use.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-useThis makes betting on many betfair markets a complete waste of time.I think this is why their is never any improvement and people are being driven away from the betfair product.No good for serious punters that's for sure.Cross matching was trumpeted as providing liquidity to these side markets but never seems to have materialised, for any other punters using the main markets to feed derivative ones commission especially PC comms makes it a no go area.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535959731#535959731Cross matching was trumpeted as providing liquidity to these side markets but never seems to have materialised, for any other punters using the main markets to feed derivative ones commission especially PC comms makes it a no go area.Tue, 15 Oct 2013 07:23:01 -0500Yep, Betfair are concerned by empty markets. They know a less-informed punter seeing this will be put off the site for good. As Latalomne says, the liquidity in plenty of side markets has disappeared until close to the event's start time.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535952115#535952115Yep, Betfair are concerned by empty markets. They know a less-informed punter seeing this will be put off the site for good. As Latalomne says, the liquidity in plenty of side markets has disappeared until close to the event's start time.Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:19:03 -0500I haven't even inferred bots/people should be banned, let alone said it outright. There is no solution to the issue I highlight. As for adapting, I have. I now rarely seed markets, I've become a position taker waiting until closer to an event starhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535952091#535952091I haven't even inferred bots/people should be banned, let alone said it outright. There is no solution to the issue I highlight. As for adapting, I have. I now rarely seed markets, I've become a position taker waiting until closer to an event starMon, 14 Oct 2013 16:17:04 -0500Again, I agree with TheInvestor. Alongside liquidity, BF's other great strength was in it's vast array of markets available. While matched amounts might have been a fraction of what was available on the main markets, historically, those numbers havhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535930621#535930621Again, I agree with TheInvestor. Alongside liquidity, BF's other great strength was in it's vast array of markets available. While matched amounts might have been a fraction of what was available on the main markets, historically, those numbers havSun, 13 Oct 2013 09:12:13 -0500Obscure markets being close to empty is actually quite a big problem I think. A lot of the fun bettors like to do all their betting in one place, so even if they understand Betfair is best value a fair bit of the time, they might still go to a tradithttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535929693#535929693Obscure markets being close to empty is actually quite a big problem I think. A lot of the fun bettors like to do all their betting in one place, so even if they understand Betfair is best value a fair bit of the time, they might still go to a traditSun, 13 Oct 2013 08:29:43 -0500So the obscure markets are the reason new punters come to Betfair and are then turned off by it? You don't think they are coming for the same markets everybody else bets on? Seems to me, the obscure markets are more likely bet by professionals, orhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535929375#535929375So the obscure markets are the reason new punters come to Betfair and are then turned off by it? You don't think they are coming for the same markets everybody else bets on? Seems to me, the obscure markets are more likely bet by professionals, orSun, 13 Oct 2013 08:13:46 -0500I really hate that 365 tracker bot. Been down for a little time so i hoped that i had disapeard but no no.. Back in full business again.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535929119#535929119I really hate that 365 tracker bot. Been down for a little time so i hoped that i had disapeard but no no.. Back in full business again.Sun, 13 Oct 2013 07:59:01 -0500and fyi, i'm in agreement with Investor - adapt.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535928631#535928631and fyi, i'm in agreement with Investor - adapt.Sun, 13 Oct 2013 07:22:24 -0500so come on then TP, whats your preferred solution?other than banning people who offer better odds than you, of coursehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535928463#535928463so come on then TP, whats your preferred solution?other than banning people who offer better odds than you, of courseSun, 13 Oct 2013 07:13:40 -0500"in advance of a market opening" should read "in advance of an event starting"https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/30103009/poor-market-depths-and-allowed-bot-use?post_id=535928329#535928329"in advance of a market opening" should read "in advance of an event starting"Sun, 13 Oct 2013 07:05:38 -0500