New Posts For Thread: Impact of PC3 on winningshttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winningsI noticed that when the original premium charge was introduced (PC1) back in September 2008? I no longer was able to win any money on the total goals market in football. Most probably because it dissuaded people to back and lay the same selections.Liquidity will be the saving grace for most affected by premium charges and there is no let up in liquidity rising as it has done for many years now so in five years time possible doubling of liquidity over all markets will cancel the pc out for thehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513311903#513311903Liquidity will be the saving grace for most affected by premium charges and there is no let up in liquidity rising as it has done for many years now so in five years time possible doubling of liquidity over all markets will cancel the pc out for theThu, 01 Dec 2011 18:31:05 -0600It should not be any more difficult or easy to win on betfair post pc2 implementaion, it will be impossible to net more than 50% of your winnings as charges force profit sharing with the eco-system provider in a fairer regime.Luck will change for manhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513311801#513311801It should not be any more difficult or easy to win on betfair post pc2 implementaion, it will be impossible to net more than 50% of your winnings as charges force profit sharing with the eco-system provider in a fairer regime.Luck will change for manThu, 01 Dec 2011 18:27:47 -0600correct score hereSept -lower than averageOct - much lower than averageNov - much higher than average 2010 and 2011 similar year totalshttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513310415#513310415correct score hereSept -lower than averageOct - much lower than averageNov - much higher than average 2010 and 2011 similar year totalsThu, 01 Dec 2011 17:55:04 -0600Not sure what you mean by "make money from mathematical derivative based market inefficiencies". The probabilities almost always add up to just above(back) or below(lay) 1! At least they do when I place my bets which is about 15 mins before the matchttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513308513#513308513Not sure what you mean by "make money from mathematical derivative based market inefficiencies". The probabilities almost always add up to just above(back) or below(lay) 1! At least they do when I place my bets which is about 15 mins before the matcThu, 01 Dec 2011 17:06:49 -0600I thought this was going to be a thread about how much it was costing PC3 players, which is a minimum of 33% for me.Personally, I haven't noticed any changes in how difficult it is to win money period, just Betfair taking a bigger percentage of it.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513297465#513297465I thought this was going to be a thread about how much it was costing PC3 players, which is a minimum of 33% for me.Personally, I haven't noticed any changes in how difficult it is to win money period, just Betfair taking a bigger percentage of it.Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:23:00 -0600My profits are massively down since the PC3 was introduced! So I'm guessing it's just statistical happenstance then . . .? Both for me, and you Lix.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513287395#513287395My profits are massively down since the PC3 was introduced! So I'm guessing it's just statistical happenstance then . . .? Both for me, and you Lix.Thu, 01 Dec 2011 07:34:37 -0600profits up massively since PC3 introduced. can only assume its cos some big winners went elsewhere leaving the lower ranked guys like me to clean up.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513283731#513283731profits up massively since PC3 introduced. can only assume its cos some big winners went elsewhere leaving the lower ranked guys like me to clean up.Thu, 01 Dec 2011 05:02:09 -0600for a while there was a bot running that would drip money into 6+ and 7+ at stupid prices, £2.50ish at a time iirc.frankly, I'm not surprised that stopped because it was basically giving money away. and anyone with the gumption to create a bot in thhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513209157#513209157for a while there was a bot running that would drip money into 6+ and 7+ at stupid prices, £2.50ish at a time iirc.frankly, I'm not surprised that stopped because it was basically giving money away. and anyone with the gumption to create a bot in thTue, 29 Nov 2011 09:06:33 -0600Well I stopped making money on total goals a long time before the 5.5 and 6.5 goals market were introduced. But yes they'll mess things up. Although I can now trade between these overs markets and total goals markets. A very bad idea to do that behttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513187487#513187487Well I stopped making money on total goals a long time before the 5.5 and 6.5 goals market were introduced. But yes they'll mess things up. Although I can now trade between these overs markets and total goals markets. A very bad idea to do that beMon, 28 Nov 2011 16:41:39 -0600That's incredible Cosmic, that's exaclty when I massively scaled up my total goals betting. I can't help but feel I may have cut you out there Taking only total goals betting:2007 avg profit £90 per month2008 avg profit £870 per month2009 avg profihttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28727841/impact-of-pc3-on-winnings?post_id=513186123#513186123That's incredible Cosmic, that's exaclty when I massively scaled up my total goals betting. I can't help but feel I may have cut you out there Taking only total goals betting:2007 avg profit £90 per month2008 avg profit £870 per month2009 avg profiMon, 28 Nov 2011 16:06:13 -0600