New Posts For Thread: without inside knowledge a staking plan is the only way to win on betfair, fact!https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-facttheres hundreds off them, some sound gd , some bad , some absolutely crazy lol but after being on betfair for a few yrs ive come to the conclusion that without needing to spend hrs on studying a staking plan is the way forward, i use my own which i whi folks lots of interesting posts etc just let me clear up a few things1. my op was about using staking plans and how people find them to use, its pretty unanimous from the posts that the general opinion is there crap, i personally held similar viewhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513028287#513028287hi folks lots of interesting posts etc just let me clear up a few things1. my op was about using staking plans and how people find them to use, its pretty unanimous from the posts that the general opinion is there crap, i personally held similar viewThu, 24 Nov 2011 16:51:01 -0600ha ha sounded like it was one to wade in on, it amazes me how many good horses when raised into higher class races keep there small price tag and get run out the race, the a-plan which ran a few Saturdays ago was just such a horse, been winning lasthttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513014065#513014065ha ha sounded like it was one to wade in on, it amazes me how many good horses when raised into higher class races keep there small price tag and get run out the race, the a-plan which ran a few Saturdays ago was just such a horse, been winning lastThu, 24 Nov 2011 10:44:49 -0600That happened recently BF.I laid a horse that lost and a week later it was running in exactly the same circumstances but in a more competetive race,strangely enough it was a shorter price.Needless to say it lost again.I wish I could find one like thahttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513013963#513013963That happened recently BF.I laid a horse that lost and a week later it was running in exactly the same circumstances but in a more competetive race,strangely enough it was a shorter price.Needless to say it lost again.I wish I could find one like thaThu, 24 Nov 2011 10:40:32 -0600I took it that you would know this as your quite pro in your approach, just stating for others benefit really and on this topic I bet you love laying at smaller prices when the filed strength is high(competitive race) although very large fields can bhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513013733#513013733I took it that you would know this as your quite pro in your approach, just stating for others benefit really and on this topic I bet you love laying at smaller prices when the filed strength is high(competitive race) although very large fields can bThu, 24 Nov 2011 10:33:51 -0600Bf I am well aware of this,I was just trying to point out if you look hard enough there is value still to be found.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513013137#513013137Bf I am well aware of this,I was just trying to point out if you look hard enough there is value still to be found.Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:18:31 -0600A runners price is not just a reflection of its form profile but also a product of the size and strength of the field, thus similar profile runners can have a wide variety of prices dependent on the profile of the competition.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513013083#513013083A runners price is not just a reflection of its form profile but also a product of the size and strength of the field, thus similar profile runners can have a wide variety of prices dependent on the profile of the competition.Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:15:50 -0600I'm strictly a layer on the horses.95% of my bets are to level stakes,occasionally I dip below my usual stakes.As to the question of value I generally look for horses with a certain profile.The funny thing is I quite often find these horses can go ofhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513012919#513012919I'm strictly a layer on the horses.95% of my bets are to level stakes,occasionally I dip below my usual stakes.As to the question of value I generally look for horses with a certain profile.The funny thing is I quite often find these horses can go ofThu, 24 Nov 2011 10:11:32 -0600on average all betfair markets return say 98.5% at market maturity then on average most customers have to pay 5% commission, therefore any stake-plan that you care to mention if used without an edge will generate 93.5% return so this hardly confirmshttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513009139#513009139on average all betfair markets return say 98.5% at market maturity then on average most customers have to pay 5% commission, therefore any stake-plan that you care to mention if used without an edge will generate 93.5% return so this hardly confirmsThu, 24 Nov 2011 08:23:37 -0600Perhaps this will help, Mr frimpong:www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0eAMDtuTWghttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513007387#513007387Perhaps this will help, Mr frimpong:www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0eAMDtuTWgThu, 24 Nov 2011 07:23:54 -0600I do like there choice in the paddy power boss as he will be quite aware of competing with other bookmakers and give betfair some teeth and growl.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28714161/without-inside-knowledge-a-staking-plan-is-the-only-way-to-win-on-betfair-fact?post_id=513007163#513007163I do like there choice in the paddy power boss as he will be quite aware of competing with other bookmakers and give betfair some teeth and growl.Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:14:57 -0600