New Posts For Thread: Lay till the cow comes homehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-homeStarting with 5k bank,all lays 1.5 or shorterLay Rafa v Fish £200 @ 1.24Lay The Power v Anderson £200 @ 1.19Lay PSG V Nancy £100 @ 1.33Depending on who you ask:i) A myth, betfair is too efficient for value to exist after commission. The people making money on betfair are the market makers who get matched both sides. PC was introduced to make money because they make large amounts ohttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513178647#513178647Depending on who you ask:i) A myth, betfair is too efficient for value to exist after commission. The people making money on betfair are the market makers who get matched both sides. PC was introduced to make money because they make large amounts oMon, 28 Nov 2011 13:06:13 -0600What would one say an edge ishttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513178103#513178103What would one say an edge isMon, 28 Nov 2011 12:49:00 -0600Unless you have an edge - YOU WILL NOT WIN Your betting is too random - and your price range of under 1.5 will be very hard indeed to find value on a regular basis good luckhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513177861#513177861Unless you have an edge - YOU WILL NOT WIN Your betting is too random - and your price range of under 1.5 will be very hard indeed to find value on a regular basis good luckMon, 28 Nov 2011 12:41:08 -0600There Is a skill required definitely.I believe I know enough about football and have watched a lot of tennis so I'm getting better at that to pick away at it. I think it has a lot to do with how much time you ave to spare.I had a look at my p/l for ahttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513177269#513177269There Is a skill required definitely.I believe I know enough about football and have watched a lot of tennis so I'm getting better at that to pick away at it. I think it has a lot to do with how much time you ave to spare.I had a look at my p/l for aMon, 28 Nov 2011 12:23:01 -0600Perhaps initially you were lucky and then you were less lucky. What we do is gambling it's random. There is a skill to maintaining an edge in the long run, but in the short term (and short can mean a run of any length, in mathematics long term meanshttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513175261#513175261Perhaps initially you were lucky and then you were less lucky. What we do is gambling it's random. There is a skill to maintaining an edge in the long run, but in the short term (and short can mean a run of any length, in mathematics long term meansMon, 28 Nov 2011 11:11:47 -0600I used to use betfair for odd bet mostly football then in may started tennis. I staked quite large and won about 6 grand in two months. Then for some reason changed what I was doing and lost 2 grand off it so stopped for a bit. I started watching myhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513174617#513174617I used to use betfair for odd bet mostly football then in may started tennis. I staked quite large and won about 6 grand in two months. Then for some reason changed what I was doing and lost 2 grand off it so stopped for a bit. I started watching myMon, 28 Nov 2011 10:50:50 -0600Initially I started 'trading' everything but quickly realised that I just tended to green my winnings and let my reds ride, which is another massive mug trap, so I stopped doing it, and these days I tend to bet either pre-off or in-running but lettinhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513173749#513173749Initially I started 'trading' everything but quickly realised that I just tended to green my winnings and let my reds ride, which is another massive mug trap, so I stopped doing it, and these days I tend to bet either pre-off or in-running but lettinMon, 28 Nov 2011 10:24:14 -0600So there is life out there after all,many thanks for input,much appreciatedhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513173575#513173575So there is life out there after all,many thanks for input,much appreciatedMon, 28 Nov 2011 10:19:30 -0600maybe you should get out more. The start was assuming a perfect market when do they happen. I try to watch most things I bet on and see how it goes. May I ask how you bethttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513173527#513173527maybe you should get out more. The start was assuming a perfect market when do they happen. I try to watch most things I bet on and see how it goes. May I ask how you betMon, 28 Nov 2011 10:17:41 -0600dbrfcno1: So what if most traded higher?Assuming a perfect market, a 1.1 shot wins 10 times in 11.But how often does it go to 1.2?Well 1 time in 11 it loses, so must cross 1.2, however by your rules you always green when it gets to 1.2, so if you werhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28705225/lay-till-the-cow-comes-home?post_id=513173041#513173041dbrfcno1: So what if most traded higher?Assuming a perfect market, a 1.1 shot wins 10 times in 11.But how often does it go to 1.2?Well 1 time in 11 it loses, so must cross 1.2, however by your rules you always green when it gets to 1.2, so if you werMon, 28 Nov 2011 10:01:48 -0600