New Posts For Thread: A question to trevh orhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-oranybody else who will not automatically jump down my throat for asking.I know you are a football bettor largely ( correct?) and I am having trouble convincing myself to bet on any and all cup related games anywhere at any level.Any and all system anaI think you're far more likely to find big value in cup games, friendlies and exhibitions in sport in general than any "regular" fixtures.Taylor/Davis the reconstruction and Nadal/Federer exhibition 2 both spring to mind.(The first is self-explanatorhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504385067#504385067I think you're far more likely to find big value in cup games, friendlies and exhibitions in sport in general than any "regular" fixtures.Taylor/Davis the reconstruction and Nadal/Federer exhibition 2 both spring to mind.(The first is self-explanatorWed, 10 Aug 2011 04:35:12 -0500Tks for your post tober.Comforting to know that I'm seemingly not totally out of sync with others re cup games of any sort.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504372829#504372829Tks for your post tober.Comforting to know that I'm seemingly not totally out of sync with others re cup games of any sort.Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:09:37 -0500Yes Frog, it is more difficult to accurately assess the strength/motivation of teams in Cup matches, due to the reasons you give.League Cup & FA Cup are best left alone altogether.Europa League is tricky. English and particulary Italian teams do nothttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504370811#504370811Yes Frog, it is more difficult to accurately assess the strength/motivation of teams in Cup matches, due to the reasons you give.League Cup & FA Cup are best left alone altogether.Europa League is tricky. English and particulary Italian teams do notTue, 09 Aug 2011 18:14:56 -0500I'm not a match outcome predictor though,Profitably predicting the result of sporting events is not possible in the long run IMO.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504334435#504334435I'm not a match outcome predictor though,Profitably predicting the result of sporting events is not possible in the long run IMO.Tue, 09 Aug 2011 04:08:39 -0500In cup matches, games are played because of a knockout ethos in a totally different mindsetand teams getting through each level reflect less of there divisional league table abilities and moreof the ability to to win which will distort there perceivehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504333003#504333003In cup matches, games are played because of a knockout ethos in a totally different mindsetand teams getting through each level reflect less of there divisional league table abilities and moreof the ability to to win which will distort there perceiveTue, 09 Aug 2011 03:09:19 -0500Frog I did notice that in my early betting days when I was betting mainly on overs/unders, I actually built my initial bank up backing overs on league games and unders on cup games, but looking back I was probably successful because even then I alwayhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504327131#504327131Frog I did notice that in my early betting days when I was betting mainly on overs/unders, I actually built my initial bank up backing overs on league games and unders on cup games, but looking back I was probably successful because even then I alwayMon, 08 Aug 2011 21:43:00 -0500Btw I take your point, and agree with, messy unfocussed end of season games also being unbettable on in many cases.Not leaving behind too much on the table maybe it seems ?https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504327093#504327093Btw I take your point, and agree with, messy unfocussed end of season games also being unbettable on in many cases.Not leaving behind too much on the table maybe it seems ?Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:41:15 -0500I'm not talking about games where teams are not trying, but games that don't seemingly conform to conventional valuation approaches because they are essentially one offs and often involve teams very different in ability and professionalism and culturhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504327047#504327047I'm not talking about games where teams are not trying, but games that don't seemingly conform to conventional valuation approaches because they are essentially one offs and often involve teams very different in ability and professionalism and culturMon, 08 Aug 2011 21:39:09 -0500Are you serious mate? It's been like that for years, but you know what to do, just always back the outsider of the ties ... BUT, Champions League is "CUP" games, are you saying you also avoid that too? In Scotland and germany, cup games are treated ahttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504326691#504326691Are you serious mate? It's been like that for years, but you know what to do, just always back the outsider of the ties ... BUT, Champions League is "CUP" games, are you saying you also avoid that too? In Scotland and germany, cup games are treated aMon, 08 Aug 2011 21:26:31 -0500anybody else who will not automatically jump down my throat for asking.I know you are a football bettor largely ( correct?) and I am having trouble convincing myself to bet on any and all cup related games anywhere at any level.Any and all system anahttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28105579/a-question-to-trevh-or?post_id=504324877#504324877anybody else who will not automatically jump down my throat for asking.I know you are a football bettor largely ( correct?) and I am having trouble convincing myself to bet on any and all cup related games anywhere at any level.Any and all system anaMon, 08 Aug 2011 20:23:39 -0500