New Posts For Thread: Wd it be good business for BF to close API / impose NEW special API fees?https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-feesBetfair has made it plain they are looking for recreational mugs not serious punters / traders, while using the veneer of an exchange as a USP to suck in mugs to their brand. To me this view is sad but understandable give the greater profitability ofThat only makes sense if you assume that PC2-players are about to leave in big numbers, or if BF hands over the PC2-money to these big liquidity providers.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503878643#503878643That only makes sense if you assume that PC2-players are about to leave in big numbers, or if BF hands over the PC2-money to these big liquidity providers.Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:27:24 -0500im not in the know...but he could be right...it doesn't make since to charge me 40% PC but another person 60%...it look like betfair needs to hurt accounts with a high win rate...A PC account at 40% can take out far more money from betfair then an PChttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503877821#503877821im not in the know...but he could be right...it doesn't make since to charge me 40% PC but another person 60%...it look like betfair needs to hurt accounts with a high win rate...A PC account at 40% can take out far more money from betfair then an PCSat, 30 Jul 2011 11:08:42 -0500I would like to believe the recent post by acc, as it seems to make strong, basic economic sense to me.Do any others, perhaps more in the know than me on such matters, have an opinion on what he is saying ?.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503876457#503876457I would like to believe the recent post by acc, as it seems to make strong, basic economic sense to me.Do any others, perhaps more in the know than me on such matters, have an opinion on what he is saying ?.Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:38:13 -0500plenty of third party apps for android iphone would be killed off aswell.the idea that API users are a different class of users and behave in different way to website users is false premise.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503874171#503874171plenty of third party apps for android iphone would be killed off aswell.the idea that API users are a different class of users and behave in different way to website users is false premise.Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:49:59 -0500And if a regular punter uses any of the free applications (like mine) available to them (and including Bf own's Rapid) which comply to the throttling requirements ... and that are just improved versions of the UI ...Should they also be severely punishttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503873437#503873437And if a regular punter uses any of the free applications (like mine) available to them (and including Bf own's Rapid) which comply to the throttling requirements ... and that are just improved versions of the UI ...Should they also be severely punisSat, 30 Jul 2011 09:29:54 -0500Api users already have to bear charges for overuse.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503873325#503873325Api users already have to bear charges for overuse.Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:26:34 -0500The reason for the charges is to protect Betfair's most important market makers(betting promotions etc). These people provide maybe 70 to 80 percent of the liquidity on Betfair. They use the api, but because of the the economic downturn and other reghttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503873303#503873303The reason for the charges is to protect Betfair's most important market makers(betting promotions etc). These people provide maybe 70 to 80 percent of the liquidity on Betfair. They use the api, but because of the the economic downturn and other regSat, 30 Jul 2011 09:26:09 -0500one word no.If you want your website crawling with screen scrapers paying no fees at all then away you go.APIs are essential for a web business. Might aswell close the website and use phones imohttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503872959#503872959one word no.If you want your website crawling with screen scrapers paying no fees at all then away you go.APIs are essential for a web business. Might aswell close the website and use phones imoSat, 30 Jul 2011 09:16:26 -0500betfair will not close or super tax API because that really would open the door to the compition ie betquack etchttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503872829#503872829betfair will not close or super tax API because that really would open the door to the compition ie betquack etcSat, 30 Jul 2011 09:12:34 -0500Betfair has made it plain they are looking for recreational mugs not serious punters / traders, while using the veneer of an exchange as a USP to suck in mugs to their brand. To me this view is sad but understandable give the greater profitability ofhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28083599/wd-it-be-good-business-for-bf-to-close-api-impose-new-special-api-fees?post_id=503872211#503872211Betfair has made it plain they are looking for recreational mugs not serious punters / traders, while using the veneer of an exchange as a USP to suck in mugs to their brand. To me this view is sad but understandable give the greater profitability ofSat, 30 Jul 2011 08:56:14 -0500