New Posts For Thread: fill and killhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-killhi there , is there any software out there that i could use that could place bets with fill and kill with with less than the 1 second function?,i.e 0.1or 0.2 of a second or faster?many thanks for any adviseSo the "description" of FOK is not correct.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497794249#497794249So the "description" of FOK is not correct.Fri, 03 Jun 2011 07:46:13 -0500If you were trying to be extremely clever, you might try and guess the betID (if you are a V high frequency trader, this might not be as unrealistic as it sounds). Since you cant cancel bets on another account, you spray in a load of cancels for thehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497793529#497793529If you were trying to be extremely clever, you might try and guess the betID (if you are a V high frequency trader, this might not be as unrealistic as it sounds). Since you cant cancel bets on another account, you spray in a load of cancels for theFri, 03 Jun 2011 07:38:54 -0500@chilly - exactly so. The 'place bet -> cancel as soon as a bet ID comes back' gives IOC neatly enough, but only approaches FOK if you don't mind partial matches - which rather misses the point of FOK :)https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497787229#497787229@chilly - exactly so. The 'place bet -> cancel as soon as a bet ID comes back' gives IOC neatly enough, but only approaches FOK if you don't mind partial matches - which rather misses the point of FOK :)Fri, 03 Jun 2011 06:04:01 -0500Since the exchange doesnt offer an explicit FOK order type, you have to "best effort" it by placing the bet, and sending a cancel a short amount of time later. There's no guarantee you wont get partially matched, though.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497785733#497785733Since the exchange doesnt offer an explicit FOK order type, you have to "best effort" it by placing the bet, and sending a cancel a short amount of time later. There's no guarantee you wont get partially matched, though.Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:38:13 -0500Could someone give an example on Betangel do this? It can't be a complete FOK.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497700577#497700577Could someone give an example on Betangel do this? It can't be a complete FOK.Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:46:53 -0500Shold love to know how that works - I can't see how you can avoid getting partially matched.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497692773#497692773Shold love to know how that works - I can't see how you can avoid getting partially matched.Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:55:38 -0500I know Bet Angel does this. It has fill or kill functions and it can instantly offset or partial offset if using batching. I often use 0.2, 0.5 and so on as the kill delay.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497690745#497690745I know Bet Angel does this. It has fill or kill functions and it can instantly offset or partial offset if using batching. I often use 0.2, 0.5 and so on as the kill delay.Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:13:30 -0500Don't see how any software could do FOK on the Exchange; it's not available as an order type and can't be synthesised.IOC would be easy enough to do, but IOC allows partial fills.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497688097#497688097Don't see how any software could do FOK on the Exchange; it's not available as an order type and can't be synthesised.IOC would be easy enough to do, but IOC allows partial fills.Thu, 02 Jun 2011 05:25:44 -0500Curious....you wrote Fill AND kill.Did you mean "Fill or kill" ? If not, what is the definition of F "AND" K.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497224737#497224737Curious....you wrote Fill AND kill.Did you mean "Fill or kill" ? If not, what is the definition of F "AND" K.Sat, 28 May 2011 07:40:57 -0500gruss does tenths of a secondhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27683445/fill-and-kill?post_id=497176665#497176665gruss does tenths of a secondFri, 27 May 2011 15:31:33 -0500