New Posts For Thread: We gamblers can only prayhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-praythat these outages don't lead to another walk out by the middling men. Can you imagine what the site would be like without their famous liquidity and value offers? It would be like The Beatles without Pete Best (IMO).Sandown, you're right in saying both that bf are wedded to an apparently no-risk model and that their risk lies in having tied themselves to an expensive infrastructure (w/ further expensively goes wrong, resulting in their having to stand SP bet andhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490349217#490349217Sandown, you're right in saying both that bf are wedded to an apparently no-risk model and that their risk lies in having tied themselves to an expensive infrastructure (w/ further expensively goes wrong, resulting in their having to stand SP bet andFri, 25 Mar 2011 10:08:52 -0500askari1The only reason why BF might ever change their present platform is if it dawns on them that their business model is stalling because they are not attracting big players, especially in the horse racing markets where the obstacles to such playerhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490330185#490330185askari1The only reason why BF might ever change their present platform is if it dawns on them that their business model is stalling because they are not attracting big players, especially in the horse racing markets where the obstacles to such playerFri, 25 Mar 2011 07:19:16 -0500Many of the new winning gamblers are people w/ a financial or trading background who have downshifted to work for themselves. How is coming up aainst their expertise likely to benefit recreational punters?https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490326337#490326337Many of the new winning gamblers are people w/ a financial or trading background who have downshifted to work for themselves. How is coming up aainst their expertise likely to benefit recreational punters?Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:36:50 -0500Lusitano, if you're saying that w/ bf the people winning at gambling are not the people who won more than 10 yrs ago, I don't think that's strictly correct. I'm of an age where I couldn't have started gambling more than 15 yrs ago and I've been ablehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490326217#490326217Lusitano, if you're saying that w/ bf the people winning at gambling are not the people who won more than 10 yrs ago, I don't think that's strictly correct. I'm of an age where I couldn't have started gambling more than 15 yrs ago and I've been ableFri, 25 Mar 2011 06:35:16 -0500this remainds me of pokerhow many poker experts have won the World Series of Poker since the poker boom or even got close to the final table?nothing but newcomers have won and if there is one in the final table is one too many, the experts dont evenhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490290881#490290881this remainds me of pokerhow many poker experts have won the World Series of Poker since the poker boom or even got close to the final table?nothing but newcomers have won and if there is one in the final table is one too many, the experts dont evenThu, 24 Mar 2011 20:06:07 -0500we are socially connected and if the "non-expert" spread the word (that either by pure luck or shrewd choices or whatever) they made money here trading and because of that they will make more people to join in, by simply passing the wordwhat makes pehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490284809#490284809we are socially connected and if the "non-expert" spread the word (that either by pure luck or shrewd choices or whatever) they made money here trading and because of that they will make more people to join in, by simply passing the wordwhat makes peThu, 24 Mar 2011 19:20:46 -0500"dear betfair, please hide information from people so I can get big bets on at wrong prices without having to put any effort in or compete with people willing to offer better prices than me. yours repetitively, feck".https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490284709#490284709"dear betfair, please hide information from people so I can get big bets on at wrong prices without having to put any effort in or compete with people willing to offer better prices than me. yours repetitively, feck".Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:19:51 -0500the number of people that have contributed to this thread shows how delusional you guys are about your claims and argumentsBetfair has found the golden eggs and if they move it much more than what they already did...then the eggs WILL rotten...NAPhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490281889#490281889the number of people that have contributed to this thread shows how delusional you guys are about your claims and argumentsBetfair has found the golden eggs and if they move it much more than what they already did...then the eggs WILL rotten...NAPThu, 24 Mar 2011 18:53:22 -0500Hi The Investor, as you're working to tiny margins, are yr initial positions determined by an estimate of fair value independent of market movements? I guess that someone cd play this way in IR football--it wd be like have an actuarial table of deathhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=490233813#490233813Hi The Investor, as you're working to tiny margins, are yr initial positions determined by an estimate of fair value independent of market movements? I guess that someone cd play this way in IR football--it wd be like have an actuarial table of deathThu, 24 Mar 2011 10:58:08 -0500askari1[...]Taking your closed room scenario, what it seems to suggest is that traders can only step in to offer a not-too-painful price to the general market once the price has been determined for them by the balance of opinion-pricers-up. Since thehttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27237413/we-gamblers-can-only-pray?post_id=489959473#489959473askari1[...]Taking your closed room scenario, what it seems to suggest is that traders can only step in to offer a not-too-painful price to the general market once the price has been determined for them by the balance of opinion-pricers-up. Since theMon, 21 Mar 2011 17:25:43 -0500