New Posts For Thread: Finding value in the (any) market?https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-marketat one given moment a football team's odds for a game's stands at 2.42 win (with loss or draw the other two outcomes). basically how high can i post my odds without seriously damaging my chances of it not being matched? i ask this because if i werethanks UAhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480455833#480455833thanks UAWed, 05 Jan 2011 10:40:25 -0600Man United back and lay was 1.3 and 1.31 on 2nd Jan and on 3rd Jan it was 1.33 and 1.34https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480451925#480451925Man United back and lay was 1.3 and 1.31 on 2nd Jan and on 3rd Jan it was 1.33 and 1.34Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:01:48 -0600I would agree if there was evidence that these big players onlymiss the softer matches, and without such evidence, the figuresare all we can go by. I believe certain key positions are more significant than others, goalkeeper for instance, (where woulhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480450573#480450573I would agree if there was evidence that these big players onlymiss the softer matches, and without such evidence, the figuresare all we can go by. I believe certain key positions are more significant than others, goalkeeper for instance, (where woulWed, 05 Jan 2011 09:51:41 -0600What price were United before the drift please ? I know i came a cropper on that one ,losing 143 pre matchhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480445561#480445561What price were United before the drift please ? I know i came a cropper on that one ,losing 143 pre matchWed, 05 Jan 2011 09:10:09 -0600Cheers tobes, that makes a lot of sense.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480427341#480427341Cheers tobes, that makes a lot of sense.Wed, 05 Jan 2011 05:49:03 -0600They do make a difference.Kevin Pullein did some research which showed the points per match gained by teams with and without Rooney ,Torres,Fabregas,Ronaldo etc was not much different .But from what i recall the research did not make allowances for thttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480427185#480427185They do make a difference.Kevin Pullein did some research which showed the points per match gained by teams with and without Rooney ,Torres,Fabregas,Ronaldo etc was not much different .But from what i recall the research did not make allowances for tWed, 05 Jan 2011 05:46:11 -0600Soccer is a game I'll never be able to price pre-match, but why would sides sign expensive players if they make no difference - or is it that if a player is out of form enough to be left out then a poorer player would do just as well?https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480424205#480424205Soccer is a game I'll never be able to price pre-match, but why would sides sign expensive players if they make no difference - or is it that if a player is out of form enough to be left out then a poorer player would do just as well?Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:56:53 -0600Invariably when a high profile player (Rooney) is left out, the market moves markedly, and yet thereis no evidence to suggest poorer results without same player. This has been covered before and thedifference with or without the key player is minimalhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480423901#480423901Invariably when a high profile player (Rooney) is left out, the market moves markedly, and yet thereis no evidence to suggest poorer results without same player. This has been covered before and thedifference with or without the key player is minimalWed, 05 Jan 2011 04:51:22 -0600Tobermory, I think a lot of the price drifting is explained by the fact that at this time of the year there are many games in a short period of time and managers are often making many changes from game to game. I think Sir Alex made 6 last night andhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480423417#480423417Tobermory, I think a lot of the price drifting is explained by the fact that at this time of the year there are many games in a short period of time and managers are often making many changes from game to game. I think Sir Alex made 6 last night andWed, 05 Jan 2011 04:39:44 -0600The odds can move a great deal in the days before a match.It's hard to say which way they will go though One thing i've noticed in the last few weeks is that almost all the favourites for premier league games have drifted a lot. Before the boxing dayhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26564589/finding-value-in-the-any-market?post_id=480399917#480399917The odds can move a great deal in the days before a match.It's hard to say which way they will go though One thing i've noticed in the last few weeks is that almost all the favourites for premier league games have drifted a lot. Before the boxing dayTue, 04 Jan 2011 19:09:42 -0600