New Posts For Thread: Uk Racing Handicap ratings... Any Experts ?https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-expertsI've kinda got along in UK racing with out really understanding the Handicap rating system, (a.k.a BHA or OR) that you see on the cards for UK races.After some excellent posts on the 'tosh' thread by Compound Magic and top2rated, I thought I'd try anI do miss this sort of discussionhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=535242741#535242741I do miss this sort of discussionTue, 03 Sep 2013 17:10:53 -0500Thanks for that info guysAs the difference from mine is the most at 1600 and over, will try some tandem ratings mine against those figures and see if what I use at the moment can be improved upon by using this info. All for improvements. After testinhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473793053#473793053Thanks for that info guysAs the difference from mine is the most at 1600 and over, will try some tandem ratings mine against those figures and see if what I use at the moment can be improved upon by using this info. All for improvements. After testinThu, 11 Nov 2010 05:08:18 -0600Compound Magic Distance Lbs per length Max weight advantage (same mark) Weight advantage for each 1lb rise in class (same mark) Weight / Class adjustment factor all other cases 1000 3.3 -14https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473788409#473788409Compound Magic Distance Lbs per length Max weight advantage (same mark) Weight advantage for each 1lb rise in class (same mark) Weight / Class adjustment factor all other cases 1000 3.3 -14Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:27:19 -0600I wouldn't argue with your evaluations CM.Timeform is like this apparently.....Timeform rating represents "the merit of the horse expressed in pounds and is arrived at by careful examination of its running against other horses using a scale of weighthttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473701113#473701113I wouldn't argue with your evaluations CM.Timeform is like this apparently.....Timeform rating represents "the merit of the horse expressed in pounds and is arrived at by careful examination of its running against other horses using a scale of weightWed, 10 Nov 2010 10:52:25 -0600This from tobermory post"In general, horses are rated by distances, which are then converted to weight,typically 2 lb per length (though there is a complex scale based on the distance of the race)So Horse A beats Horse B by 5 lengths , he will be rathttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473531497#473531497This from tobermory post"In general, horses are rated by distances, which are then converted to weight,typically 2 lb per length (though there is a complex scale based on the distance of the race)So Horse A beats Horse B by 5 lengths , he will be ratMon, 08 Nov 2010 22:01:05 -0600Using the latest OR will rate and test results to see if I come up with the same new OR, if not why it differs.Have to get my head around Lbs, not that easy when I have been doing Kgs for so many years.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473529861#473529861Using the latest OR will rate and test results to see if I come up with the same new OR, if not why it differs.Have to get my head around Lbs, not that easy when I have been doing Kgs for so many years.Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:38:49 -0600This URL to download all OR ratings to excelhttp://www.britishhorseracing.com/inside_horseracing/media/ratings/Great! Now to start manipulating, filtering, check results etc....https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473529073#473529073This URL to download all OR ratings to excelhttp://www.britishhorseracing.com/inside_horseracing/media/ratings/Great! Now to start manipulating, filtering, check results etc....Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:28:55 -0600Now this is an interesting thread! An oldie like me can still learn something new about handicapping.Been reading up on the OR and found out they update it every weekGoing to do a lot more delving.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473528585#473528585Now this is an interesting thread! An oldie like me can still learn something new about handicapping.Been reading up on the OR and found out they update it every weekGoing to do a lot more delving.Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:23:06 -0600*the handicaper cannot put up a horse by more...https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473527329#473527329*the handicaper cannot put up a horse by more...Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:08:23 -0600Escapee, traditionally you have either to look for horses that are 'ahead of the hcapper' or that 'have dropped to a winning mark'.The second is harder b/c of the trainer chicanery involved.As regards the first, the hcapper cannot not up a horse by mhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/26224941/uk-racing-handicap-ratings-any-experts?post_id=473527313#473527313Escapee, traditionally you have either to look for horses that are 'ahead of the hcapper' or that 'have dropped to a winning mark'.The second is harder b/c of the trainer chicanery involved.As regards the first, the hcapper cannot not up a horse by mMon, 08 Nov 2010 21:07:54 -0600