New Posts For Thread: Laying Systemshttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systemsLads, just wondering which was the best option.. laying to a fixed liability or a fixed stake?I was thinking fixed liability but then should you be laying an evens shot for €100 and a 10/1 for a tenner? That said I'd rather not have the fixed stakeBet of the decade , believe me you are not small fry on here. 95% of the clowns on the forums write BOOOM if they win £2https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419151094#419151094Bet of the decade , believe me you are not small fry on here. 95% of the clowns on the forums write BOOOM if they win £2Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:05:10 -0600thanks-just regarding the PC, I take it that is the 'Premium Charge' which is much discussed onthis forum. At what point will someone have to pay the PC? As far as I'm aware I have never paid this, I'm only paying the 5% comm on each win I make.Obvhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419151090#419151090thanks-just regarding the PC, I take it that is the 'Premium Charge' which is much discussed onthis forum. At what point will someone have to pay the PC? As far as I'm aware I have never paid this, I'm only paying the 5% comm on each win I make.ObvTue, 24 Nov 2009 02:02:22 -06002skidbums 23 Nov 23:25 what way does de kelly system workYou have to know three things: the percentage chance of your selection winning, the odds available and your betting bank. From this, the Kelly Criterion will calculate the optimum amounthttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419151054#4191510542skidbums 23 Nov 23:25 what way does de kelly system workYou have to know three things: the percentage chance of your selection winning, the odds available and your betting bank. From this, the Kelly Criterion will calculate the optimum amountMon, 23 Nov 2009 18:16:10 -0600I do something similar- I keep a fixed ammount in, withdraw profits at the end of the day and if I'm down I don't withdraw untill I'm back over the threshold. On Sundays I work out my PC position and leave enough in to cover the payout on wednesday.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419151018#419151018I do something similar- I keep a fixed ammount in, withdraw profits at the end of the day and if I'm down I don't withdraw untill I'm back over the threshold. On Sundays I work out my PC position and leave enough in to cover the payout on wednesday.Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:26:45 -0600what way does de kelly system workhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419151014#419151014what way does de kelly system workMon, 23 Nov 2009 16:25:01 -0600You should try start each day with a limited sum of money in the account. If youve a losing day dont deposit until the next morning and if youve a winning day withdraw it.. thats what I do anyway. At least if I've a bad day, it wont kill me anyway.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419151006#419151006You should try start each day with a limited sum of money in the account. If youve a losing day dont deposit until the next morning and if youve a winning day withdraw it.. thats what I do anyway. At least if I've a bad day, it wont kill me anyway.Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:20:47 -0600i have a few hundred in my pot left now and just going to try and progress that as much as possible - slowly but surely (hopefully)...laying outcomes where im not putting too much liability on the line...that's something i need to learn!!cheers for ihttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419151002#419151002i have a few hundred in my pot left now and just going to try and progress that as much as possible - slowly but surely (hopefully)...laying outcomes where im not putting too much liability on the line...that's something i need to learn!!cheers for iMon, 23 Nov 2009 16:18:33 -06005-8 percent is a figure which traders would be happy withDecent position players take trader's pants down and spank their office chair imprinted @rses.https://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419150998#4191509985-8 percent is a figure which traders would be happy withDecent position players take trader's pants down and spank their office chair imprinted @rses.Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:14:50 -0600If you're betting pre-off then paper trading is fine, the important thing to remember when you're betting with real money is that you need to asess all your strategies on the basis of level stakes even if you're increasing your actual stakes- otherwihttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419150990#419150990If you're betting pre-off then paper trading is fine, the important thing to remember when you're betting with real money is that you need to asess all your strategies on the basis of level stakes even if you're increasing your actual stakes- otherwiMon, 23 Nov 2009 16:12:27 -0600I'm alright. Ups and downs like the rest of us really. Have staking plans for each sport, and what sports to avoid completely. Been struggling with pre-off lately so cut stakes down for that and left in running stakes the same. Will play in running fhttps://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23469274/laying-systems?post_id=419150986#419150986I'm alright. Ups and downs like the rest of us really. Have staking plans for each sport, and what sports to avoid completely. Been struggling with pre-off lately so cut stakes down for that and left in running stakes the same. Will play in running fMon, 23 Nov 2009 16:12:01 -0600