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The Dragon
08 Sep 24 18:23
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they are in the middle east ffs.

dont see saudi arabia or eygpt for example

please explain

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By:
mesmerised
When: 08 Sep 24 18:37
Jewish state surrounded by Muslim countries who refuse to play them, massive target for terrorism.
By:
sparrow
When: 08 Sep 24 20:34
They didn't agree with Brexit.
By:
salmon spray
When: 09 Sep 24 10:28
It used to be a complete anomaly,but there are now nations to the east of Israel which play in Europe. Plus I believe Australia is now in Asia.
By:
lurka
When: 09 Sep 24 12:06
It's more of an Arab thing than a Muslim thing and goes back to the 70s when they boycotted them and kicked them out of the AFC. Muslim UEFA countries like Bosnia, Kosovo, Albania, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan do not have a problem playing against Israel, although I'm sure they're kept apart from some of them in the draws. It's a security issue really.
By:
mesmerised
When: 09 Sep 24 13:29
those Muslim countries in the Arab world are far more aggressive, militant minded and conservative with values than the European ones.
By:
lurka
When: 09 Sep 24 17:57
People the world over get aggressive when land is taken from them or people they call kin, whatever their race, religion or politics.
Israel is in breach of countless UN resolutions on Palestine going back decades and it is the support of the west that allows that to continue. They have always sought to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state with east Jerusalem as its capital, as resolved at UN security council in 1967 and which most countries support to this day.

When the dust settles on the live genocide we are all watching in 4KHD, while being lied to for 2 years that Russia is genociding Ukraine, every single citizen of the west should ask themselves how they sat by and did next to nothing, didn't even ban them from football.
By:
sofaking
When: 09 Sep 24 18:29
Lurka knows the score.
By:
brassneck
When: 09 Sep 24 18:36
Why do Berwick play in the scotland leagueShocked
By:
brassneck
When: 09 Sep 24 18:38
Why do Derry City play in the League of Ireland
By:
Emitdeb
When: 09 Sep 24 18:39
4KHD.. Shocked Slow down cowboy! I'm not..
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Sep 24 20:11
Lurka appears to have an agenda here.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 09 Sep 24 20:43
Agenda's could be everywhere, even in the 'holy land', c'mon Italy,get another 6 or 7.
By:
Crisp77
When: 09 Sep 24 20:49
Why do Man United have a women’s team?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 09 Sep 24 20:53
They are just a bit emasculated,that's all^
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 09 Sep 24 21:23
careful gents, the PM observes Shabbat.
By:
lurka
When: 10 Sep 24 02:50

Sep 9, 2024 -- 12:39PM, Emitdeb wrote:


4KHD..  Slow down cowboy! I'm not..


Agenda? More attack the messenger but ignore the uncomfortable message nonsense as spoon fed to you by the media. If you question Israel's response you must be a Hamas supporter etc.

Why don't you tell me that I'm wrong about humans being píssed the world over when their land is taken?
Why don't you tell me that Israel is not in breach of countless UN resolutions going back decades?
Why don't you tell me that if the west didn't give them carte blanche it would continue?

Because you fúcking can't.

The German people and everyone else didn't know the extent of the atrocity they went along with. They learned about it slowly over decades. We do. And it's Liiiiive in 4kHD.

By:
lurka
When: 10 Sep 24 02:52
Sorry emitdeb that was meant in response to sparrow
By:
lurka
When: 10 Sep 24 03:02
The IRA was a necessary response in the 70s in NI and Hamas is a necessary response since the late 2000s in Palestine when Israel assassinated their own peace-friendly leader. What Isreal has done for decades is 1000x worse than Bloody Sunday.

There is no negotiation with a pariah state. Netanyahu was quoted in 2019 as stating that 'if we want to thwart the formation of a Palestinian state (as mandated by the UN since 1967), we must ensure that Hamas is prominent and adequately funded' (paraphrasing). Hamas has been funded indirectly by Israel since then thru Qatar, where all the Hamas leadership are based. That is the basis of Netanyahu's power. You need a lunatic to deal with lunatics and the madness is perpetuated. You don't have to support that.
By:
brians
When: 10 Sep 24 08:28
I have no views on the situation but if you talk about anyone owning “ Their land” then I wanted to point out it was owned by Turkey for centuries and various cultures before that. On the same basis Britain belongs to the Celts, Italy to the Romans, Australia to the aborigines etc etc.
By:
Crisp77
When: 10 Sep 24 09:17
It all belongs to the dinosaurs
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 10 Sep 24 09:44
Not sure it's about owning the land historically. History can be used to argue multiple sides.
If you've got families living there peacefully for the last few generations, and then foreigners coming in from Eastern Europe and South America start calling themselves Israelis and then force you out of your home at the end of a gun, well you can understand why those people would be a bit miffed and might want to organise themselves to defend themselves.
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Sep 24 09:47
In response to lurka. The politics forum has been reopened.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 10 Sep 24 10:34
Ironically Israel is allowed to defend "herself" but lurka isn't.
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Sep 24 10:42
People can defend their political positions on the appropriate forums.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 10 Sep 24 11:43
it would only take half of the 20 regular posters to turn this into a Furry Sex forum.
By:
MALAY
When: 14 Sep 24 09:16
brassneck
brassneck09 Sep 24 18:38Joined: 13 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 20,477 | Blogger: brassneck's blog
Why do Derry City play in the League of Ireland



There is actually a cracking documentary on it, the brandywell is actually only 5 minutes away from Donegal.
By:
MALAY
When: 14 Sep 24 09:38
worth a watch lads a bit of politics in it, but mainly about the football, like the title "skint hill" were fans without admission fee could watch from outside


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000vcdr
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 14 Sep 24 09:42
lurka
The IRA was a necessary response in the 70s in NI and Hamas is a necessary response since the late 2000s in Palestine when Israel assassinated their own peace-friendly leader. What Isreal has done for decades is 1000x worse than Bloody Sunday.

There is no negotiation with a pariah state. Netanyahu was quoted in 2019 as stating that 'if we want to thwart the formation of a Palestinian state (as mandated by the UN since 1967), we must ensure that Hamas is prominent and adequately funded' (paraphrasing). Hamas has been funded indirectly by Israel since then thru Qatar, where all the Hamas leadership are based. That is the basis of Netanyahu's power. You need a lunatic to deal with lunatics and the madness is perpetuated. You don't have to support that.


JFK - Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 14 Sep 24 09:45
Israel play in the European competitions because of their control of European politics.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 14 Sep 24 11:35
Agree with Sir Norbert...and Edward I.
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