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should be sacked before the game imo make Kane player manager
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First England game I've looked forward to in an age. Bored Sh*tless for the past few years.
...and who gives a f**k if he doesn't sing. This is a football match, not the Eurovision's
Having represented Ireland would have been a media induced controversy regardless...
should be up to players and managers whether they choose to sing or not..
if he gets a tune out of this lot, people will lose interest in the issue pretty quickly..
should be up to players and managers whether they choose to sing or not..
if he gets a tune out of this lot, people will lose interest in the issue pretty quickly..
were you bothered when numerous England players of the past didn't sing it ?
as to how can anyone not be bothered ?...there's more important things in life to lose sleep over (imo)...
as to how can anyone not be bothered ?...there's more important things in life to lose sleep over (imo)...
Main story on today's Telegraph front page, also front page of the Mail. 
The people who go along with this confected rage must be utterly exhausted. Imagine being this angry at such an inconsequential thing. Jesus.
Some people wake up on a Saturday morning and boff the missus, others prefer cornflakes and rage.
if we play in an attacking way that lets the talents of the squad dominate the superior abilities england possess he could sing the red flag for all i care.....absolutely right to keep emotions out of the mind and allow calm temperaments to be the professional attitude required.....
Why does he not just keep his mouth shut?
No sense giving bullets to the press.
No sense giving bullets to the press.
because he was specifically asked presumably ? (open to being wrong on that but feels he'd have been asked rather than gone out of his way to state it)
Some people wake up on a Saturday morning and boff the missus,
and many of them do so without telling her
and many of them do so without telling her
Nor as bottle to drop Harry slowboat Kane
who gives a flying fick
fair play to him gone up in my estimation
fair play to him gone up in my estimation
Sacking is a bit strong, but it shouldn't be too difficult to sing the anthem. If all they do is stand there is it worth bothering with the anthems at all? If nothing else Southgate did get them to sing the anthem after the idea had seemingly gone out of fashion. Looks like we could be heading back in the other direction again.
Asking a mythical figure to save an overly privileged ponce makes it a dumb anthem
The team is representing England the country not some jug-eared tax dodger
You should be more worried about having someone managing a team who can’t sing a song because his “mind might wander off”.
He sounds like the kind of guy who needs his wife to go with him to his local Londis because he might forget the paper and bread when his mind wanders off when he sees half the milk has blue tops and half green tops.
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He sounds like the kind of guy who needs his wife to go with him to his local Londis because he might forget the paper and bread when his mind wanders off when he sees half the milk has blue tops and half green tops.
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He’s caved in,he’s going to sing it.
God save our fields of athenry (crap Betfair pretext).
Long to lie low of us
Send him to the prison ship
God save our fields of athenry (crap Betfair pretext).
Long to lie low of us
Send him to the prison ship
I can remember going to he Picture Houses in Preston back in the sixties. There was the ABC, The Odeon, the Ritz and The Palladium. Usually to watch a 'B' film in black and white and the 'A' film in colour. After the credits had rolled on the 'A' film you were obliged to stand and listen to the National Anthem before leaving quietly.
I must admit, after all these years, I was one of those who used to sneak out early as not to listen to it.
I must admit, after all these years, I was one of those who used to sneak out early as not to listen to it.
Never sung it.Sticking to his guns.
Bit more entertaining than the other fella.
Bit more entertaining than the other fella.
Main story on Spectator and in the comments people are having a Neil Buchanan over it.
I'd have a big issue should he refuse to wear the Poppy...
so why does he come out with utter shyte about focusing on the football
a complete and utter lying t5ssbag
if he is a republican fair enough just be honest and say so
a complete and utter lying t5ssbag
if he is a republican fair enough just be honest and say so
if he was a staunch Republican he'd have sung the anthem of Ireland when he played...
maybe in light of his heritage but personal history he's attempting to respect both (god forbid) or he's telling the truth that as in the numerous examples posted, he personally prefers not to sing anthems full stop....
maybe in light of his heritage but personal history he's attempting to respect both (god forbid) or he's telling the truth that as in the numerous examples posted, he personally prefers not to sing anthems full stop....
bit rich for a L'pool fan getting involved in the rights or wrongs of Carsley's decision negatively imo..
Roy Keane would belt it out if the FA gave him a job....
Happy and GLORRIIIOOOOOUUUUSSSS
God Save Roy Keane......
Happy and GLORRIIIOOOOOUUUUSSSS
God Save Roy Keane......
you must be due a rant at the FAI, RQ...
plenty of bluffers involved there...
plenty of bluffers involved there...
LOL the life support machine for the FAI was turned off long ago.....
Carsley got the job on merit unlike the bloke he's supposed to sing about. Charles was gifted a beautiful young girl and chose to shag an old horse face behind her back. Even if god existed why should he save him?
love the irony of the irish fans booing all things english yet have cheered and worshipped all the english lads who made them a good side over the last 30 odd years.
shouldn't the ? be why didn't carsley make himself look like a complete FOOKING hypocrite and sing the national anthem just like RICE and GREALISH did a few yrs after both belted the Irish national anthem out,
Klopp still available, FA probably want him to do well in these dud games to have an excuse to give him the contract. Klopp would win the World Cup for England with his style and the type of players we have.
brentford • September 8, 2024 12:08 AM BST
bit rich for a L'pool fan getting involved in the rights or wrongs of Carsley's decision negatively imo
ive got no time for liverpool fans who boo the national anthem
when you ask them why they do it they arent very clear - something about the 1980,s and the Thatcher Govt
Perhaps they are thick enough to believe the queen was part of the Thatcher Govt
bit rich for a L'pool fan getting involved in the rights or wrongs of Carsley's decision negatively imo
ive got no time for liverpool fans who boo the national anthem
when you ask them why they do it they arent very clear - something about the 1980,s and the Thatcher Govt
Perhaps they are thick enough to believe the queen was part of the Thatcher Govt
ive got no time for liverpool fans who boo the national anthem
when you ask them why they do it they arent very clear - something about the 1980,s and the Thatcher Govt
Perhaps they are thick enough to believe the queen was part of the Thatcher Govt
Scouse mentality
when you ask them why they do it they arent very clear - something about the 1980,s and the Thatcher Govt
Perhaps they are thick enough to believe the queen was part of the Thatcher Govt
Scouse mentality
Sep 7, 2024 -- 11:13AM, Aspro wrote:
...and who gives a f**k if he doesn't sing. This is a football match, not the Eurovision's
A lot of people lack self confidence about singing in public and/or they just sound terrible. The sound picking up usually the tuneless singers as last night's did with Harry Kane confirms my point.
As long as all stand to attention and respect both anthems, that's fine by me.
If Lee Carsley can keep delivering a positive approach, and hopefully, results, that should be fine for England fans.
I couldn't care less if the reason was *I cant be arsed or I cant carry a tune*.. It's if he has republican or political objection tendencies and is refusing to sing for that reason. I'd have a problem.
If he refuses to wear the poppy come November.. I'd want him out, regardless of results.
If he refuses to wear the poppy come November.. I'd want him out, regardless of results.
If he refuses to wear the poppy come November.
Maybe he doesn't feel like wearing emblems celebrating war criminals.
Maybe he doesn't feel like wearing emblems celebrating war criminals.
The Poppy was introduced to help commemorate those that lost their lives in the first World War, how were they criminals ? It's nothing to do with Ireland, though the British had no business ever being in Ireland or anyone elses' country. Blair is the war criminal and his mate Campbell.
Just think of the millions of words that will be written about this if Carsley gets the job.
Carsley will know exactly what's coming if he doesn't behave correctly...
Yep.. That's what I wrote and it doesn't need explaining really.
I disagree.
What is behaving incorrectly exactly?
What is behaving incorrectly exactly?
Refusing to wear the poppy come November, imo would be behaving incorrectly and I have no doubt would be met by a backlash from a large section of England fans..
I have no knowledge of Mr Carsley's political opinions at all.. I'm basing my opinions on possible scenarios that might occur..
I have no knowledge of Mr Carsley's political opinions at all.. I'm basing my opinions on possible scenarios that might occur..
what's worse not singing an anthem when you never sang Irish anthem when playing for them
or
singing Irish anthem ,then yrs later singing English anthem,then 20 mins later not celebrating scoring for ENGLAND ?
or
singing Irish anthem ,then yrs later singing English anthem,then 20 mins later not celebrating scoring for ENGLAND ?
Carsley will be sh1tting himself when he finds out Emitdeb is going to roast him on a forum with a global reach of around 24 degens.
The anthem isn't even about England FFS. Reign over us?!! It's 2024. I'm sure there are millions of English who don't like the song either.
It is dated, most English people are atheist and have limited interest in Royalty, it's the tourists that flock here that give off the impression that they are still popular. I'm neither a Royalist or Anti Royalists, I'm non plussed, but their relevance died out a very long time ago and Charles has no connection with the general public at large, most think he's just a bit of an oddball that speaks to plants.
I'd rather the National anthem was 'All Together Now which would be far more relevant 'The lyrics were written about the Christmas Day Truce in World War I where, on Christmas Day 1914, soldiers from both sides put their weapons down, and met in no mans land to exchange gifts and play football.'
I'd rather the National anthem was 'All Together Now which would be far more relevant 'The lyrics were written about the Christmas Day Truce in World War I where, on Christmas Day 1914, soldiers from both sides put their weapons down, and met in no mans land to exchange gifts and play football.'
Must admit although I started the thread very promising display on the pitch.
Just caught the headlines that he's making 3 changes "to freshen things up"
Sep 9, 2024 -- 3:18PM, howard wrote:
Must admit although I started the thread very promising display on the pitch.
Yeah, I thought so to mate.
Another false dawn perhaps ?
We shall see eh?
But that squad, those players, so much potential.
How many times have we heard, read and said THAT line ?
Won't know until they face some serious opposition I suppose.
His first two games in charge should at least give him a chance to move things around a bit.
For what it's worth, I blame the tictacs, and I think they play too many games.
Also the players have always seemed shackled, to MY eye, maybe they're just tired.
But what do I know ?
Good luck to him, and THEM, I say.
Yeah, I know, silly eric. 
If people studied the words of our national anthem only idiots would sing it .
Sep 10, 2024 -- 9:37PM, fullset wrote:
If people studied the words of our national anthem
Why would anybody sing an anthem to the Gangster family from Germany?
Cap doffers and forelock tuggers…. Pathetic
Cap doffers and forelock tuggers…. Pathetic
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