*** England v Slovenia & Serbia v Denmark - June 25th - Euro 2024 ***

should have been  kane off

Jude is a good player, the manager is the problem.

Bring on Wilshere, we need a game changer

Kane shouldda stayed on his feet there

i fancy England to win.

Yeah Kane dived

miles wide, and Rice thinks it's close.

Couldda just pushed the guys arm away and was in on goal

Only three yards wide...

England could play Holland next

30 yds wide and lee dixon waiting for the net to bulge

"closest England had come" the Rice shot then... Ffs

Glad the handbrake is off

Palmer best player on the pitch! Why aren't Bowen and Gordon on too?

Scotland would have got out of this group

0-0 in other game

This is the "Group Of Dearth"

I fail to see what the fuss is about with Rice. he's bang average whenever i watch him.

YouTube

England like a Ferrari but your gran driving it

55th in the world and the loony dixon thinks this an improvement than against denmark

This tournament should be the end of Southgate and Kane.

Bellingham valuation....19 quid now

Typical sychophantic gravy train merchant, sport is infested with them.

£9.37.....

southgate on a plane to Rwanda extra time

Palmer doing v well

Gordon might as well go home.

Bellingham more like  bell end tonight.

I've had to red out on this. Wish I'd done it sooner. See if they fecking score now, I'll be very annoyed.

Slovenians are coming it a bit with the supposed facial injuries. Although England are mugs for getting in this situation in the first place.

Gordon getting 5 minutes.

These lads could have a future in walking football...

Lovely skill by Palmer

Not sure what Gordon can do in 2 minutes. Just go Southgate you fecking mug

Will they still win the group? Very lucky if so.

lost 90 mins of my life

very fortunate to win this group with 5 points, shocking in all honesty. embarrassing

Getting excited by a tame Palmer shot,heart to God!

K_RAP

embarrassing

Southgate you are scheidt.

Denmark 0-0 FT

0-0 Danes FT

Top of group, easy side of draw.

Well done Gareth, feckin clueless, but well done.

Absolutely appalling performance in every department.

southgate - a nice bung finishing top of group

An awful game of football.

Lasso SOUTHGATE
Its Tough
Bollocks

Mr Southgate is sh1te!

Playing for penalties in last 16.

All you need to know about them.

Mainoo was an improvement.

But I feel we need to lose either Foden or Bellingham, it just
doesn't work.

I think you need to be drunk to watch any England game, but look at my post close to the top of this page where I stated an England Lay at 1.32 was value

Well done Slovenia. It shows what you can do with organisation and commitment against a side with hardly any ideas at all. Two ways to beat a side like that: take players on, which has disappeared from the game, or pass the ball quickly. England couldn't do either.

In the second half Saka had chances to take on the full back, but just bottled it. Is Watkins injured?

The only positive for England is that the quality of this tournament is terrible, as bad as the last one. It's not going to by won by an outstanding side thumping someone.

Harry Kane just too slow.

Rather have the Villa lad.

Only highlight was the bits Palmer did when he got on.

Best part of the evening for England was the Danes not being overly bothered with winning the group. The Serbs could have nicked it bear the end.

Lose Mr Southgate. He's the weakest link. He'll never make a football manager Internationally of Premiership. He's a football fraud. I pity the England supporters.

It’s time for Arsenal to cash in on Saka…he’s good but not elite.

Poor again…

Very overrated player who just gets the attention because he ticks them boxes.

How do you not start Palmer? Ridiculous!

Most times they have a group of death.

The football produced in that group was instead the "Death of football"

Horrible turgid crap.

So just more money to made laying engerlund.



5.0 at the start, free money.

Laying eng against serbia, a small hit.

laying eng against den, then laying when wining at 1.31 a nice win.

laying eng angainst slov at 1.35 tonight a good win.

Well done Sonko. At least England are making someone happy lol

You gotta be in it to Win it    Gareth singing one Game at a time Sweet Jesus

it would take the divine inspiration of sweet jesus for me to watch anymore of this dross..

Southgate said there are playing in a difficult environment  were are they playing North Korea Iran Outer Mongolia

Is difficult environment a reference to media criticism?

Danger from tonight is now going overboard about the substitutes in the way they did about Bellingham after the first match. Yes, they improved things a bit, but none of them were fantastic. Palmer didn't curl that decent chance into the top corner, he squandered it.

I can't believe Phil Foden is a father.  He looks about 14.

Harry is ready for Extra time and Shoot Outs

I thought Walker played well , fook me he covers some Milage during a Game ,doesn't stop Running ,never gets a Mention by the TV experts

Just convey to Mr Southgate and his players one does not win matches by playing the ball backward or sideway; the opposition goal is straight ahead and forward.

I'd like the statisticians to tell me how long does the England team take on average to build/mount an attempt at the opposition goal? It was another dreary game to watch; Serbia, Denmark and Slovenia only managing 5-points. It's pathetic.

The substitutes showed what was possible starting with Mainoo who should have started.

Palmer looked direct from the off and to a lesser extent Girdon in his limited time.

The problem though is fitting them all in. I would not drop Foden, Saka or Bellingham.

Saka got sheite service from Gallagher and Walker.

We are worried about defence hence Walker and Trippier. Now there is a case for TAA at right back and Walker to the left. Probably evolution rather than revolution is needed gif the next game but…….

                Pickford

TAA      Stones.  Guehi. Saka

Palmer  Rice.   Bellingham. Gordon

                  Foden

                  Kane


A not Kate to be trying this but it provides balance and gets the best players in forward positions. Bellingham can play free and drift forward. Foden roving does not upset thd balance from a central position rather than starting on the left. Of course will our defence be solid enough against the better teams?

Whatever we have wasted 2 years. We are solid ag thd back under Southgate’s system but we will attract pressure as we cannot mover thd ball forward with Yrippier and to a lesser extent Walker

Not rocket science
We all see it
Why can’t Moyes
Sorry Southgate

Saka left bzck Taa right bzck
Against the Dutch ??
Rest is fine

Southgate, “I’m in a really good place,”


Stop with the cod positivity FFS

Mainoo must start and Palmer must get at least 45 minutes. Saka looks like he can only play half a game.

Regarding Palmer and Gordon those shouting for their inclusion from the start should remember wide players always look good when they come on, not always the case when they start. However I can see the case for the 'can they be any worse' camp.

Pep plays Foden on the right. That's where Palmer excels

Saka can only play on the right.

I'd play Palmer there

True MJK but Palmer isn't your typical winger. He comes inside and plays risky balls forward which when they work can open things up. He looks a good fit with Mainoo.

Ideally you want a couple of stoppers in midfield who can also create. As it is we just have a stopper in Rice, and a load of other players who just want to go forward from midfield. Consequently, they are frightened of being caught out defensively, hence the slow, limited risk football. A slow build up of short passes hasn't worked so they need to come up with something better. Three games in, and they are showing no signs of having the know how, or ability to do that.

i wouldn't see saka as a starter id rather go with palmer or bowen, think mainoo has to start in place of all the other options

one of the issues on the left is trippier isn't supporting so u either need gordon to get round the back or you have to do something radical at left back allowing foden to link up better

playing a conservative sideways approach might work against attacking teams but all the group matches have been park the bus episodes and we've had no one taking players on or getting round the back, on the odd time it has happened we've immediately created chances, bowen, walker, gorden & palmer for eg, doing that then allows runners to come thru and attack the crosses, like bellingham & foden

Serbia, Denmark, are all stodgy sides who wanted a draw, which meant they have no space to England, coupled with the fact England didn't try to make space after going a goal up, against the Dutch they will leave oceans of space for England's creative players so they're performances should actually get better against better sides because even Gareth knows by now sitting back on a 1-0 lead against higher quality opposition is stupid, couldn't have got much luckier than to have the 4 big hitters on the other side of the draw.

Mike has a point. Saka got diddly in the first half. Palmer needs to start however. The problem is the full backs doing the crab shuffle.

Radical but Saka at left back and Gordon wide left. Drop Bellingham alongside Rice. Give Foden the 10.

Going extreme TAA at right back never going to happen unless Walked moves to left.

Plenty of shouting tightly but we played well organised teams with limited ambition. Knockout opens things up. I think we retain ball and move down the field with footballers on the pitch but we won’t win anything with poor distribution from the back.

Saka has been one of England’s best players as has Kane. It’s not their fault we have been so poor

Kane's been a good player but would like to see Toney or Watkins
given a crack up front now.Bit more mobile for a start.

How useless does Kane have to get to be dropped?

- Phil Foden has passed the ball more times to Jordan Pickford (3) than to Harry Kane (1) at EURO 2024. Ineffective.

Opta

Kane keeps dropping back into Bellingham space

Nobody to spearhead the attack, Watkins would do that
if Kane doesn't fancy it.

We've got to sort out formation though as we are
stuck in a lampard/ Gerrard World again.

Get the Impression
Southgate thinks the negativity crazy
He ain’t going change nothing

Spot on fatties, Southgate is delighted with progress.

Fattie

Phone adding an s, sorry.

This like purgatory
Westham fans had this all season season befor
Got told by the same media where talking bollox
Well this it 100%

Playing a low block
Playing Brazil number 10 on left
It’s same **** on smaller scale

Moyes as a pundit is great, I expect he felt Southgate was too attacking last night.

Southgate extremely arrogant in that he doesn't appear to want to listen to any other ideas.

Has been extremely lucky that his time as manager has coincided with international football at an all time low. A few decent teams around and he would have achieved absolutely nothing.

It is a bit late to be listening to other ideas if you are in charge! He has wasted two years but at least has confidence in himself if not his players.

I agree with your second paragraph. Luck might force him into blending the right team. Two mistakes have been rectified so far and that is progress. Our skilful attackers will have more opportunities against better and more ambitious sides.

We have problems at full back as well as further up the pitch.

Even TAA at right back and Walker at left will help as the first move to get the ball forward quicker.

it did and it also may help the trippier / foden issue on the left so i did wonder if that was a try out rather than tripp being knackered

also then gives him taa to go forward on the right and with palmer for saka you have a really different set up, then u have gordon and saka on the bench to throw in if needed, mainoo has to go in for gallagher

Foden's left the England squad, girlfriend having a baby, now play Gordon Safegate you mug. Kind Regards.