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EXCLUSIVE: Premier League clubs to vote on proposal to scrap VAR from next season. Resolution formally submitted by Wolves to abolish system + will be on agenda at June 6 AGM. Any rule change needs 2/3s majority (14 of 20 members) to pass @TheAthleticFC


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By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 15 May 24 17:58
Great idea, been saying this for a while
By:
sparrow
When: 15 May 24 18:17
Premier League clubs will vote on whether to scrap video assistant referees (VAR) from next season at their annual general meeting next month.

Wolves have formally submitted a resolution to the Premier League which will trigger a vote when the 20 member clubs meet in Harrogate on 6 June.

The club said VAR was introduced "in good faith" but has led to "numerous unintended negative consequences that are damaging the relationship between fans and football".

VAR was introduced in 2019 to help support on-field officials with key match decisions, but there have been a number of controversial incidents involving the technology this season.

"The price we are paying for a small increase in accuracy is at odds with the spirit of our game," read a Wolves statement.

The Premier League said it "acknowledged the concerns" about VAR but "fully supports" technology and will continue to work with referees' body PGMOL to make improvements.
By:
themightymac
When: 15 May 24 18:18
Yep, scrap it. Ruined football as a spectacle.
By:
11kv
When: 15 May 24 18:19
Its ok done professionally

But the current refs are sheite.

The teq is there to take it oot of their hands ...
By:
themightymac
When: 15 May 24 18:23
Drawing lines across a computer screen to determine a players big toe is in an offside position is pathetic.

Better option is simple. Scrap the stupid offside Rule from a bygone age.
By:
Aspro
When: 15 May 24 18:25
I'd like to see a season without the offside rule
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 15 May 24 18:26
have 2 leagues, the varless league and the var league ( ie what would have happened if var applied )
By:
john42
When: 15 May 24 18:26
please god, scrap it, we can finally celebrate scoring a goal again.
By:
sparrow
When: 15 May 24 18:27
My view would be to scrap the present handball rule and revert back to as it was previously and also the interfering with play so if player is in an offside position then he must be ruled offside.
By:
Aspro
When: 15 May 24 18:30
A little research said that the offside rule was introduced in 1863... what do you remember of it sparrow?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 24 18:32
Laugh aspro
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 15 May 24 18:34
Just scrap offsides, simple.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 15 May 24 18:35
VAR just needs to be sensibly used. Of course for that we'll need someone smarter than Howard Webb in charge of PGMOL
By:
sparrow
When: 15 May 24 18:37
Well it changed a few times......

The offside rule originated in 1863. A player was considered offside unless three players of the opposing side are in front of him (includes goalkeeper). So in the above diagram, the player with the ball is considered offside because only two players are in front of him.

The Offside Rule – 1925
The offside rule was changed in 1925. A player was considered offside unless two players of the opposing team are in front of him (includes goalkeeper). So in the above diagram, the player with the ball is NOT considered offside because two players are in front of him.

The Offside Rule – 1990
The offside rule was changed again in 1990. A player is onside if he is level with the second-to-last player of the opposing team (includes goalkeeper). So in the above diagram, the player with the ball is NOT considered offside because he is level with the second-to-last player.

Even though the rule has changed a couple times, many still have issues with the rule. Some say making an offside call is impossible and feel that FIFA should change the rule again. Only time will tell!

http://www.sidelinesoccer.com/history-of-the-offside-rule
By:
sparrow
When: 15 May 24 18:38
Maybe Aspro only arrived with the Premier League.
By:
Aspro
When: 15 May 24 18:39
So the stork was fiction? Shocked
By:
sparrow
When: 15 May 24 18:40
Margarine?
By:
Aspro
When: 15 May 24 18:43
Thanks for that sparrow (6.37pm) - I wonder if they will ever reconsider it
By:
sparrow
When: 15 May 24 18:46
Well I'm with Bill Shankly on this as he famously said..."if he's not interfering with play then what's he doing on the pitch" or something similar. I don't think they can consider no offside at all.
By:
brentford
When: 15 May 24 18:57
they changed it 1990 because there were so many tedious offsides as strikers closed down a keeper and couldn't re-establish themselves onside before the ball was headed or played back in to the half they were in...despite the striker making no attempt to play the ball the offside would be enforced.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 15 May 24 18:58
Great news about the VAR vote. Surely nailed on to go if it’s a simple as that?

Scrapping offside wouldn’t help the game imo.
By:
Aspro
When: 15 May 24 18:59
Will it be a transparent vote so that we get to see who voted for/against it?
By:
brassneck
When: 15 May 24 19:00
great news.bring back the beautiful game of football,and it will stop all the football actors rolling about looking for a free kick.
VAR has caused many many more problems than it has solved.
football was dying a slow death all over the world,who would have thought that the WOLVES would save football .
Well done Wolves ,you will never be forgotten ,when they rewrite the history of world football.Happy
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 15 May 24 19:02
Sparrow - why not? (can't consider no offsides)
By:
sparrow
When: 15 May 24 19:05
Lee Ho Fooks 15 May 24 19:02 
Sparrow - why not? (can't consider no offsides)





Goal hanging for starters.
By:
brentford
When: 15 May 24 19:07
Dyche would probably have a lot of success with it but football would be finished as a watchable game without offsides...

just keep loading it into the 6 yard box with 5 or 6 giants to win the headers
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 15 May 24 19:11
Turn that round & both sides can have goal hangers, the more goal hangers you employ the more chance you will have goals scored against you. Also, by having no offsides the play wouldn't be condensed in a small portion of the pitch. Chasnce is that you'd get many more 1 on 1 battles because you wouldn't be able to condense play.
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 15 May 24 19:15
My suggestion gives an immediate knee-jerk reaction that it couldn't possibly work but think of positives eg linesmen could me better employed flagging foul play, teams instructed to use the full pitch to find space etc
By:
GoBallistic
When: 15 May 24 20:16
The people who actually matter (the paying customers) won't be getting a vote, probably because they know what the result of the vote would be.
By:
brentford
When: 15 May 24 21:01
* just to correct an earlier comment (18.57)

it was the 2005 change to interfering with play that resolved that issue as part of a re-writing..

The impact of the 2005 change
So to be offside, a player has either to touch the ball or be in a position potentially to make physical contact with an opponent.

Crucially, if a defender steps up because he senses by so doing he would force a forward into an offside position, that is no longer sufficient to render him active. Which means that against savvy opponents, who contrive to keep the ball away from those who have wandered offside, the offside trap has been rendered ineffective.
By:
mecca
When: 15 May 24 21:55
I hope that they do tell us who voted for or against .... my guess would be that the "big" clubs vote to keep VAR
By:
dambuster
When: 16 May 24 12:00
Refs and Lino's have become very lazy, we need to scrap it to liven them up.
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 May 24 12:06
The solution is very simple & obvious imo.
VAR was brought in to deal with clear & obvious decisions that were wrong not offsides decided by millimetres!
Solution: bring in a challenge system like in cricket.
If a team feels wronged let them challenge & ask for VAR and not the busybodies at Stokeley Park after every incident!
By:
s.kenbo
When: 16 May 24 12:15
I quite like that idea, Wes. I think it would add a bit of excitement to a VAR decision if nothing else.
By:
Aspro
When: 16 May 24 12:43
Players challenge almost every decision regardless; don't think that would work myself Wesdag, I believe it would add to the misery. Just my opinion.
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 May 24 12:50
Aspro, it would have to be an official challenge like they do in cricket.
I think they can make 3 unsuccessful VAR appeals per innings.

With this at least EVERY decision won't get looked at by VAR. We've all seen decisions where a goal's been scored, not a hand has gone up in protest then some **** at Stokely Park gets involved & chalks it off! Angry
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 May 24 12:55
I think the choice shouldn't be between VAR & no VAR.
It should always be an option but in much limited circumstances.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 16 May 24 13:07
They’d still challenge every decision. They’d just know not to waste one of their ‘lives’ appealing something they knew wasn’t really an infringement.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 16 May 24 13:20
I would vote to scrap it.

The technology seems okay even though I still have some doubts on the line drawing.

But I’m afraid it’s being used incorrectly by a bunch of idiots and for that reason it needs to be binned.

The same morons who make decisions on the pitch are the ones trying to use it.

And there are no protocols or strict guidelines to follow like for a LBW in cricket or a high head tackle in Rugby.

This is just some idiot referee giving his interpretation of things.

It has to go. Unfortunately at the moment it’s doing more damage than good.

Pre VAR bad decisions would even themselves out over 38 games…not anymore…go back to the old ways imo
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