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scandanavian_haven
13 May 24 22:27
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this is where the title will be decided this season, a City win and the title is theirs, a draw or loss and it's Arsenals, as both Arsenal and City will win their home bankers against beach teams on the last day of the season.

I don't buy Tottenham players will down tools, none of them grew up on the Arsenal/Tottenham rivalry, none of them care who wins the title but a lot of them are playing for spots in their national team and they have a chance of CL.

Having said that, it's all probably academic as City really should be winning this game anyway.

If Tottenham go ahead early, will be funny seeing no fans celebrate the goal!

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By:
tobermory
When: 13 May 24 22:54
A City win seems so inevitable that it will take quite a bit to get me interested in it.....

Either Spurs being in front in the 2nd half, or drawing with 78+ minutes gone...

Spurs 1 up in first half, or drawing HT, the inevitability is still there.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 13 May 24 22:58
Almost hoping for a draw, and a goal difference fight
on Sunday. Could be fascinating. A draw and city need to
win by 3 more than arsenal, then city lead on goals scored!
By:
the fink sisters
When: 14 May 24 09:22
I also don't buy the narrative that Spurs will down tools. They still have a chance of Top 4 if they win this (Villa have form team Palace away on the last day). When Spurs are on it they are a good side as we have seen in the early weeks of the season. It's fallen apart a bit in recent weeks though. You'd expect City to win, probably comfortably as they've been here, done that. Spurs are very open, I expect goals.
By:
Storm Alert
When: 14 May 24 09:41
I agree Spurs players should not down tools as they still have a reasonable chance of qualifying for the Champions League after Villa's recent results. It's just some Spurs fans are more worried about Arsenal winning the league than their own team qualifying for the Champions League; pathetic really. Even the Man Utd fans were behind their team when Arsenal played them on Sunday, despite a win virtually guaranteeing their rivals Man City the Premier League.

Unfortunately the Postecoglou high-line set up will play right into City's hands and he seems very one dimensional when it comes to tactics. Still another excellent season for Arsenal,
By:
Pilsudski
When: 14 May 24 10:06
Biggest game of the EPL season.
By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 10:16
It's just some Spurs fans are more worried about Arsenal winning the league than their own team qualifying for the Champions League; pathetic really

I'd prefer to call it realistic; Spurs are not a CL team at this juncture. What's pathetic is defending a game that you should be trying to win, to WIN THE LEAGUE. If City win, then you've only yourselves to blame for not at least trying to win that game.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 14 May 24 11:00
Difficult to believe but ... Tottenham have won each of their past four Premier League home games against Manchester City without conceding a goal.

Due a trouncing then.
By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 11:30
Spurs have already taken 2 points from City and for the record, we didn't sit back and came away with a 3-3 draw. In other words, we've already helped Arsenal out but no, they are not satisfied with that, they want even more help, but are not prepared to help themselves when the opportunity arose Crazy - If it wasn't for Spurs, City would be a point ahead of Arsenal with a game in hand.

The players are pro's and will want to at least try to get CL qualification, which becomes a realistic option if they can overturn City. I believe the game will be played professionally regardless of what the fans may or may not want.
By:
penzance
When: 14 May 24 11:39
If it's a draw tonight,to say the titles Arsenal's is a bit
premature.City are more than capable of hammering West Ham.
We've already been caned a good few times this season.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 14 May 24 11:48
Arsenal playing Everton, they'd beat them comfortably as well, I think City will beat Tottenham something like 1-3 or 1-4 anyway so wont really matter.
By:
Wesdag
When: 14 May 24 12:20

May 14, 2024 -- 11:39AM, penzance wrote:


If it's a draw tonight,to say the titles Arsenal's is a bitpremature.City are more than capable of hammering West Ham.We've already been caned a good few times this season.


Correct.
City would only need to beat WH by 3+ goals more than AFC beat Everton.

By:
Storm Alert
When: 14 May 24 12:33
If Spurs are able to set up and play like they did in 2nd half against Arsenal, they are a match for anybody. Injuries going to make it difficult for Spurs defensively. I had forgotten about the 3:3 result, normally associating Spurs as beating City by hitting them on the counter attack, but that day they went head2head. And yes I do wish Arsenal hadn't been so negative away at City (who weren't at their best), at the time 0:0 seemed a good result thou.
By:
lurka
When: 14 May 24 12:34
If Spurs win, they have a great chance of CL. Even if Villa draw they could trounce Sheff U.
Spurs got a draw away to City with Emerson and Davies at CH and Gil and Lo Celso starting, so you never know.
More likely City will win by 3/+ tho. They are a different animal in the run-in and Spurs form is v poor but if Spurs turn up they have a chance.

Criticising Arsenal for not trying to win at City of all places is ridiculous. They were a point ahead (with +12 GD) before (and after) that game and they'd have very likely lost if they'd played differently. Literally every other game they dropped points in was easier to win.
By:
Wesdag
When: 14 May 24 12:36
49 out of 54 points this year for AFC, iirc.
Title winning form if not for a state owned club.
By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 12:46
You have a point lurka and yes, at the time it wasn't a terrible result, but the way I see it, Champions should act like Champions and anything less is unacceptable. The days of Vieira, Petit, Overmars, Bergkamp, not forgetting one of the best defences to ever have played, would they have settled for a draw? They always went toe-to-toe with Utd and didn't fear them at all, home or away. That's how Arsenal, or any other potential winner should act; they were a joy to watch. Winners don't sit back, they keep pushing, which is why City currently have the upper-hand.

Nice response Storm... respect.
By:
elise
When: 14 May 24 12:55
im thinking draw, certainly worth laying city. Don't agree both teams have a gimme on sunday, city more than capable of dropping a goal early on v west ham, same everton at arsenal, city have seen plenty of last day drama and they are due a fall so even if they get past spurs im still feeling like the value is arsenal

go draw tonight and ars for the title
By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 13:05
Realistically, a draw is no good for either team elise. Arsenal have scored 3, 4, 5 goals many times this season and are quite capable of doing it against Everton. City will not want to take that chance and will only accept a draw as a last resort. Spurs simply have to win.
By:
Wesdag
When: 14 May 24 13:12

May 14, 2024 -- 12:46PM, Aspro wrote:


You have a point lurka and yes, at the time it wasn't a terrible result, but the way I see it, Champions should act like Champions and anything less is unacceptable. The days of Vieira, Petit, Overmars, Bergkamp, not forgetting one of the best defences to ever have played, would they have settled for a draw? They always went toe-to-toe with Utd and didn't fear them at all, home or away. That's how Arsenal, or any other potential winner should act; they were a joy to watch. Winners don't sit back, they keep pushing, which is why City currently have the upper-hand.Nice response Storm... respect.


Football has changed massively.
It's like chess these days lacking the flair of days gone by.
Citeh may be dominant but they're not an exciting watch - even AFC are dull compared to the early Wenger days.

By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 13:18
Fair point Wes, but be honest. Have you ever seen contenders hold back like Arsenal did that night? Even those games that end 0-0 or 1-1 between two top side, both are trying to nick it.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 14 May 24 13:23
Im surprised the OP didnt start the thread with
FREE MUNIE
Cant see Citeh messing up
Ange needs to be carefull
as he needs a point against Sheff to guarantee Europa footie
Injuries tonite could torpedo that though
Devil
By:
1st time poster
When: 14 May 24 13:46
think its good news/bonus for city that SPUDS still have a chance in theory of finishing 4th as more chance of a typical spuds collapse and maddo pulling a hammy as soon as spuds go behind,as compared to getting a free hit in a deead rubber for spuds with nothing to lose
By:
1st time poster
When: 14 May 24 13:48
according to sky showing a computer image of tkt sales,seat plan theres 1000,sd of unsold tkts for this game,surely this was a sell out weeks/months ago ?
whats this all about ?
By:
lurka
When: 14 May 24 13:53
It was a worse result for City. I'd be looking at games earlier in the season as much worse results and the Villa game at home where the manager had one eye on Bayern, played Havertz in midfield and that clown Zinchenko at left full which cost us. He was in the RB position for the first Villa goal and his man scored it at the the far post. He has become ten times the liability he was last season.

That's the only game they've dropped points since. Wouldn't really criticise the manager too much but after City I said that I couldn't see us staying the course if we went all out for the CL games because that would mean resting players. Squad is not built to do that yet although if Timber were fit it might have made the difference.
By:
Wesdag
When: 14 May 24 14:15
correct
not done too much wrong to get 49 from 54 pts
By:
elise
When: 14 May 24 14:19
agree draw no good for either but equally i think city may be chasing and a draw is as good as they get, not writing spurs off as city tend to concede and don't always fire


city more than capable of turning up and burying them, but pressure is on and i can't see it 2nite
By:
NFL_Man
When: 14 May 24 14:25
Ange with the real Aussie mentality. 'A win at all cost' attitude and his press conference before the game suggested to me, he doesnt really see the point of helping his rivals out. (Man City) Think Ange with that Australian allegiance, North London derbies are just 'another game'. Dare I say it even the attitude of alot of the non-English and non-British players is to win the game.
By:
NFL_Man
When: 14 May 24 14:29
Do we honestly think a player of Korean, Australian or Brazilian heritage care if their rivals Arsenal go on to win the Premier League?

To those guys from those nations, its just another game. They also dont care about the fans. Its just 'soccer' to them.
By:
Wesdag
When: 14 May 24 14:34
Big bonuses for players & staff for CL qualification.
That's more influential than fan sentiment.
By:
NFL_Man
When: 14 May 24 14:37

May 14, 2024 -- 2:34PM, Wesdag wrote:


Big bonuses for players & staff for CL qualification.That's more influential than fan sentiment.


Right now Spurs if they are mathematically still possible to get a Top 4 spot at the expense of Arsenal winning the league, they would take that in a heartbeat.

They would rather take that scenario, than say finish 5th and be happy that Arsenal finish 2nd.

By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 14 May 24 14:37
If Maddison starts Ange has lost the dressing room
Devil
By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 14:38
Postecoglou is right; tonight will be as its always been and that's an effort (if you can call it that of late) to win the match. We are City's bogey team no less. The worst result for Spurs is a draw; that would really suck (sorry elise); otherwise it's a kind of win/win situation for the fans.
By:
NFL_Man
When: 14 May 24 14:43
On a serious note, which scenario would Spurs fans prefer?
By:
NFL_Man
When: 14 May 24 14:46
A) Spurs finishing 4th, Arsenal winning league or B) Spurs finishing 5th, Arsenal finishing runners-up?
By:
Wesdag
When: 14 May 24 14:54
B) 100%
If it was down to fans.

A)
If up to players, staff & L£vy
By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 15:03
B - Because it is the most realistic route for a trophy. Spurs would most likely qualify from CL group stages only to be knocked out soon after, especially with an inexperienced manager who has no Plan B. Europa would be a good tournament for him to gain experience before trying to take on the elite of Europe.
By:
Wesdag
When: 14 May 24 15:09
My take would be get to the CL & see what happens.
Who would've predicted Dortmund in the final? Devil
Get behind your team. Cool
By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 15:17
Of course that would be your take Wes Grin
By:
Aspro
When: 14 May 24 15:22
Going back 15 years I reckon we'd all have gone for A, having not previously qualified for the CL, but even if we did beat City, Villa only need to gain a point to thwart us anyway, so when you say "get to the CL" that still isn't in our hands, regardless.
By:
impossible123
When: 14 May 24 15:35
'sly' is offering 2/1 from 'evens' for 1+ shot on target for Folden, Haarland and Son only for a miserly £2.50p. Is that the most stingy offer ever promoted by a bookie?
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