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scandanavian_haven
17 Mar 24 19:56
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don't know how you can have all those years of coaching experience and end up with just 30% of the ball and almost 400 less passes than the opposition - at home, against a team of similar size and expenditure, if Moyes was brave with his set up, his teams will be dangerous, he rarely let's them off the leash like he did against Freiburg.
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Report sparrow March 17, 2024 6:59 PM GMT
Possession football is not our game and thank goodness too. If you enjoy the play it out from the back sideways backwards game then Villa is your team.
Report scandanavian_haven March 17, 2024 7:02 PM GMT
I rate Moyes, think West Ham are lucky to have someone who's got them to 3 European quarters in a row and much further up the table, but he is painfully pragmatic at times, he has some really good players, the way they played against Freiburg was brilliant to watch that attacking football, they can win the Europa with the players they have imo but not if they put the handbrake on, the second leg just gone was a case of needs must, Moyes's default setting is sit back and wait to counter, reactive rather than proactive
Report sparrow March 17, 2024 7:09 PM GMT
Freiburg are nowhere near as good as Villa and with such a small squad we can't afford to throw caution to the wind. Our improvement in the last 4 years or more justifies the tactics and I don't want to see another Pellegrini who was brought in last time to replace Moyes and plunged us into the relegation struggle yet again.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK March 17, 2024 7:51 PM GMT
We hunted like pack of wolves
Played fantastic football on front foot
Second half he reverted back to type, sat on a pen box
Gave 3 point away
We had that game by bollox
And surrendered it in the second half
**** var musks Moyes being useless **** that won’t let play
Front foot attacking football which works better for us
Cos we can’t defend 30% football
Stats bzck that today
Stats in burnley game other week another tale of too half’s
We look dangerous going forward
Sit back look ****
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK March 17, 2024 7:54 PM GMT
We went from looking like Brazil in first half
To Scunthorpe in a second ffs
Both teams played Thursday
Report brentford March 17, 2024 7:55 PM GMT
with such a small squad we can't afford to throw caution to the wind

little West Ham who've had a bigger net spend than L'pool in the last 5 years...
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK March 17, 2024 8:00 PM GMT
I text a mate said if Moyes keeps playing
Setting up a team to play like this
I’m going get off his back
But **** me he reverts to type
Try sit on 1-0 lead in second half
****g madness
Report sparrow March 17, 2024 8:02 PM GMT
You think our squad should be above all of those in the top six Brentford?
Report brentford March 17, 2024 8:04 PM GMT
I think par is 7th or 8th and can understand some of the fanbase wanting better football at home against teams lesser or equal to them...but none of my business at the end of the day..on here like everyone I'll add it though...
Report scandanavian_haven March 17, 2024 8:05 PM GMT
Moyes just has to understand that attacking IS defending, further ball is away from your own goal the better, camping deep in your own half against multi million pound teams is not a good tactic in this day and age.
Report sparrow March 17, 2024 8:11 PM GMT
What I've learnt watching West Ham over the years was that you win nothing if you can't defend properly and attacking is not the be all and end all and far from it.
Report brentford March 17, 2024 8:17 PM GMT
very true sparrow, and I think that side of the game doesn't always get the appreciation at any club..

but still West Ham even in my lifetime have a great rep for attractive football..the feeling I guess (and I don't see enough of your games to have a strong view) is that they have enough quality to play more on the front foot in some games where he chooses not to..

if gets top 8 come the end of the season he's probably done ok especially with some Euro fun..

Spurs fans wanted Conte out...record wise no that different to Big Ange but a better watch...can always end in tears though.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK March 17, 2024 8:22 PM GMT
Kalvin Phillips, debacle we’ve got his brother Alvin Phillips
Should be sacked on that note alone
Our bench is disgrace
On him sack for that too
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK March 17, 2024 8:26 PM GMT
we can’t defend Properly camp in our own half another fact
Report sparrow March 17, 2024 8:30 PM GMT
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but still West Ham even in my lifetime have a great rep for attractive football..the feeling I guess (and I don't see enough of your if gets top 8 come the end of the season he's probably done ok especially with some Euro fun...



That reputation for attractive football came in the 1960s along with Moore, Hurst, Peters etc. but the reality was we never once in that decade challenged for the league because Greenwood the manager never bothered about defenders.  Bobby Moore made the point in his book and I was there watching throughout that period and it was heartbreaking giving away goals after scoring great ones ourselves. The best team we ever had came in the mid 80s but was broken up after one excellent season.
Report sofaking March 17, 2024 8:36 PM GMT
Moysey is box office. Him and West Ham are made for each other and it would be a catastrophic blunder to get rid of him now.
Report 11kv March 18, 2024 5:03 PM GMT
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- March 18, 2024 7:32 PM GMT
Moyes does a decent job, west ham have some
excellent exciting players, who don't really
want a slow build up.

Maybe slow build up and possession is better
for points gained but can kill the joy out
of the game.

Far rather watch kudus than tika taka
Report sparrow March 18, 2024 7:44 PM GMT
Rather watch anything than tika taka the most boring of all tactics but West Ham have come a long way in the past 3 years or so and I for one don't want to go back to the Pellegrini etc. days of fighting relegation every year.
Report sparrow March 18, 2024 7:48 PM GMT
If people think we play tika taka then then they haven't been watching West Ham who play mostly on the break.
Report scandanavian_haven March 18, 2024 7:54 PM GMT
that's the point with Moyes, he's a good manager, but he has a higher ceiling and it just seems like he wont push though it, they literally have the players to take games to teams, they shouldn't be having 30% of the ball and home against Villa and make 400 less passes near enough.
Report scandanavian_haven March 18, 2024 7:54 PM GMT
Bowen could play in any team in the top 4 easily
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- March 18, 2024 8:04 PM GMT
But it's 600 sideways passes, that 1/ stack up
your team passes and 2/ restrict the time oppos have ball.

West ham more direct, so less passes and possession

But you could set different standards and have
meaningful passes and possession...


Looking forward to West ham visiting sjp, been good
games of late...
Report sparrow March 18, 2024 8:08 PM GMT
Going forward we have some good players but we are weak defensively and there is a need to protect. You don't get anywhere if you can't defend as the majority of seasoned West Ham fans know only too well but time will tell as to what will happen in the future.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- March 18, 2024 8:16 PM GMT
It's a balance, isn't it, with 11 players you
can't be expansive, and defend well.

Pretty much what Southgate is proving with England.

Brazil 1970 did it, but not seen too many since...
Report tobermory March 18, 2024 9:06 PM GMT
Moyes has more excuse for defensive tactics than Southgate does
Report tobermory March 18, 2024 9:08 PM GMT
On talent West Ham are about the 9th best team in the league

England have the No.1 team IMO, but 2 holding midfielders, formation with 8 players behind the ball most of the time, unless they are losing
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- March 18, 2024 9:15 PM GMT
I'd love to know what England XI that
Pep or Klopp would put out in a big game semi final.
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