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lump0n
05 Mar 24 18:03
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Hi All
Who on here has given work up to bet/lay full time and what how did you make the decision to go full time

Thanks in advance
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Report Emitdeb April 30, 2024 6:00 PM BST
Starting to think Dark forces maybe at work here....
Report lump0n April 30, 2024 7:58 PM BST
??
Report Emitdeb April 30, 2024 7:59 PM BST
Have you traded any portion of your soul recently...?
Report everyone's a winner April 30, 2024 7:59 PM BST
you think he's made a deal with the devil Laugh
Report lump0n April 30, 2024 8:30 PM BST
Maybe that’s to come
Report DIE LINKE May 1, 2024 10:21 AM BST
Damn, if you'd given us your bets beforehand we could have followed you in and won thousands. Cry


So, you are clearly laying at the type of high odds which potentially give you a very long winning run. I'm guessing you are either laying correct scores or outsiders when they go a goal behind.
Report spyker May 1, 2024 11:53 AM BST
By 'pro' you obv all mean declaring as such on passport,  winnings as income and tax payable as such and not just signed off universal credit as they are hassling you to find work?
Report Aspro May 1, 2024 12:01 PM BST
What tax? Pro's don't pay income tax in the UK, unless the law has recently changed. As far as benefits are concerned, they have a savings ceiling (which was £16k), which could reduce or even stop any benefits received if exceeded.
Report spyker May 1, 2024 12:52 PM BST
I do  miss threads  like this. They used to bread and butter on here, at least a few a week, most dying after a couple of pages, the others dying when the inevitable long losing streak comes. I do remember the odd 1 where it seems the op was still doing ok after a few months. I once turned  £2.22 on sat night into over 11k by Monday eve, didn't I do well?
Report spyker May 1, 2024 12:56 PM BST
the graph in the 16th has a different starting point to the previous 1 on early page, prob a graphic thing.
Report Emitdeb May 1, 2024 5:26 PM BST
Ooh!... My spidey senses might be picking up a slight (I think this is Bull ****) vibe from spyker! Confused
Report tobermory May 1, 2024 6:44 PM BST

May 1, 2024 -- 12:56PM, spyker wrote:


the graph in the 16th has a different starting point to the previous 1 on early page, prob a graphic thing.


Isn't it just that it is last 12 months in the p&l so it will naturally start later

Report lump0n May 1, 2024 7:24 PM BST
I’ve been open and honest on here…. I have had bad days, one was 3k down a week past
Report duffy May 1, 2024 7:30 PM BST
I believe what lump says 100% I just want to see the p@l from before, even though it wasn't laying it was still betting so it all counts , if we could just count what we wanted to and not the rest we'd all be up....It still might be good, for all we know, but we haven't seen it so we don't know!!
Report tobermory May 1, 2024 7:34 PM BST
The betfair P&L only goes back 12 months
Report duffy May 1, 2024 7:38 PM BST
He'll have a lifetime portal won't he?
Report tobermory May 1, 2024 8:06 PM BST
only if he was paying the premium charge
Report duffy May 1, 2024 8:10 PM BST
or close to it, I've got one but have never paid it.
Report Aspro May 1, 2024 8:12 PM BST
We all have one... My Account / Payments / Manage Payment Methods... in the top right hand corner.
Report Aspro May 1, 2024 8:17 PM BST
Correction: My Account / My Betfair Account / Payments / Manage Payment Methods (Top Right)
Report duffy May 1, 2024 8:27 PM BST
Net deposits that, never tally's completely with the portal for me, probably due to some sort of convoluted commission deduction.
Report Aspro May 1, 2024 8:30 PM BST
All I care about is what goes in and what comes out Laugh - I'm pretty sure mine is accurate and it has stayed perfectly in touch with my movements since I discovered it.
Report Emitdeb May 1, 2024 8:31 PM BST
I would love to see the 30 days Activity for April... Looks like a £10k profit.. Just incredible! If lumpOn could cut and paste that?
Report lump0n May 1, 2024 8:38 PM BST
My profit is 21k I think if I have looked right
Report Aspro May 1, 2024 8:40 PM BST
Whatever figure is on the 'Manage Payment Methods' page should be added to the current fund to give the correct figure lumpOn
Report duffy May 1, 2024 8:41 PM BST
Aspro,

Mine is about 20k out, I suspect some cards in the past aren't in the net deposit figure for some reason, don't know, doesn't tally for me though.
Report duffy May 1, 2024 8:44 PM BST
Lumpon,

Do you have a premium charge portal?....I'm going to come at this a different wayGrinWink

My account...betting activity...bottom tab
Report Aspro May 1, 2024 8:47 PM BST
All I know is a few years ago Betfair sent me a spreadsheet with every transaction I'd ever made on their site. Took me a while to work it all out, but once I had a bottom line I kept track of it thereafter and it pretty much agrees. No idea why yours don't though, that is a huge difference.
Report duffy May 1, 2024 8:51 PM BST
It's probably more than 20k  because I'm guessing that my commission figure in the portal includes implied commission too on losing bets rather than real money.
Report lump0n May 1, 2024 9:07 PM BST
Yes, that is on the premium charge section
Report Andriy May 1, 2024 9:13 PM BST
In the premium charge page, it shows the commission generated, not that paid, so in most cases will underestimate the true figure. I'm not sure why they can't give both, maybe they think it would give a little shock if they put the actual comm paid over lifetime.
Report Aspro May 1, 2024 9:16 PM BST
That would make sense of the discrepancy. They take the commission gained if won or lost, or so I read.
Report Andriy May 1, 2024 9:23 PM BST
In fact, with the figure on the Manage Payments page, Premium Charge paid (minus 1000), and current balance, you can work out actual commission paid.
Report Winja May 1, 2024 10:37 PM BST
you only pay commission on winning transactions and the total commission on the premium charge page is what you have paid.....if the profit and loss figure is gross then surely that means you need to deduct the commission figure to find the true net profit.....providing it is a winning account of course......
Report Winja May 1, 2024 10:42 PM BST
actually that is not correct.....
Report Aspro May 1, 2024 11:08 PM BST
That's not what I read Winja. For the premium charge the commission is based on the commissions, if you win or lose, or that is how I understood it. It is the commission earned on the trade. So if you lost (say) £10 and the other guy won £10 the commission would be 2% (20p) credited to your figure on the premium charge, regardless.

You only pay commission on what you win, but for the premium charge you are still given the credit, assuming I have read this right.
Report dave1357 May 2, 2024 1:24 PM BST
The charges calculation is (all the commission you have paid + 3% of all losing bets)/2.

For some people who were on 4%+ commission for a long time, this will lead to quite a big discrepancy between the "charges" amount and the actual commission paid.
Report lump0n May 2, 2024 4:34 PM BST
Commission is good….. as you’re winning
Report lump0n May 2, 2024 4:35 PM BST
Commission is good….. as you’re winning
Report lump0n May 2, 2024 4:35 PM BST
Commission is good….. as you’re winning
Report freddiewilliams May 4, 2024 1:51 PM BST
Still no crumbs from lumper
Report lump0n May 6, 2024 6:21 PM BST
Always clear my plate pal
Report Munter 69 May 6, 2024 11:22 PM BST
Can we have one of your P&L graph updates please LumpOn....!! Ta....
Report duffy May 7, 2024 4:01 PM BST
The 20 year oneGrin
Report lump0n May 7, 2024 8:23 PM BST
I posted one not long ago
Report everyone's a winner May 7, 2024 9:29 PM BST
he's winning unlike most of us on here. i agree with die linke that it must be laying the sort of outsiders that don't cause upsets very often but get a few of those in a row and it could pose problems. if not, then fair play, you've found the holy grail Laugh
Report duffy May 8, 2024 4:08 PM BST
Yes, huge credit for the last years figures.
Report lump0n May 10, 2024 9:47 PM BST
Can easily go down after a few bad results
Report lump0n May 10, 2024 9:47 PM BST
Can easily go down after a few bad results
Report Emitdeb May 10, 2024 11:22 PM BST
How did you do today? do you play the horses?
Report starship May 11, 2024 3:43 PM BST
3.47 trap three butts legacy...plot draw
Report starship May 11, 2024 3:43 PM BST
3.47 crayford
Report freddiewilliams May 11, 2024 3:44 PM BST
Dog tips and no footy crumps
Report Emitdeb May 11, 2024 3:48 PM BST
Cool Thank You... Laugh
Report freddiewilliams May 11, 2024 3:49 PM BST
Evens winner
Report Emitdeb May 11, 2024 3:59 PM BST
No one can accuse starship of photoshopping! Wink
Report lump0n May 11, 2024 7:32 PM BST
Report lump0n May 11, 2024 7:33 PM BST
Definitely not my best week
Report everyone's a winner May 12, 2024 6:49 AM BST
what caught you out on Tuesday? Dortmund?
Report lump0n May 12, 2024 12:47 PM BST
Sure was
Report DIE LINKE May 12, 2024 1:45 PM BST
bet your missus has a whale of a time trying to get information out of you.
Report duffy May 12, 2024 2:44 PM BST
I bet she likes the last 12 months but doesn't have a clue about the previous 15 odd yearsDevilWink
Report breadnbutter May 12, 2024 2:52 PM BST
When the Mrs asks that's just trying to nail you in the lie, they got it all sussed at that point.
Report lump0n May 12, 2024 3:25 PM BST
She has not a clue I have this 30k stashed
Report duffy May 12, 2024 5:03 PM BST
LaughLaugh

I've always handed over as much as I can down the years, keeps her sweet and helps me to maintain the amount of sports TV time I get, plus, to be fair I like to see the reaction when I surprise her with a few hundred here and there, she got a couple hundred last nightHappy.....haven't had my sh@g for that either yetDevil
Report lump0n May 12, 2024 8:25 PM BST
I will keep it hidden until I think it’s worth talking about
Report DIE LINKE May 12, 2024 8:29 PM BST
Divent think he's eva gonna give us the gen on these lay bets. Shame like, 0-0 lay man was making £1K a match and it was gd to follow.
Report duffy May 12, 2024 8:59 PM BST
Wow, 30K not worth talking about, show us the lifetime figure on here so we can get the full picture, remember 30k up in a year is just that, a year, we need to see the whole picture before we can get an accurate picture if you're any good or not.
Report lump0n May 12, 2024 9:13 PM BST
It’s the same question every few days on here
Report lump0n May 12, 2024 9:13 PM BST
It’s the same question every few days on here
Report duffy May 12, 2024 10:00 PM BST
Can you post it then?...it could be just as impressive as the past year for all we know and it is just modesty that is stopping you.
Report Emitdeb May 13, 2024 2:16 AM BST
Pretty sure lumpon admits to being a loser (like what I am) previous to the year he shows...
Report lump0n May 13, 2024 4:38 PM BST
I was 10k down 14 month ago. Now 20k up
Report duffy May 13, 2024 4:52 PM BST
I think most people would consider being 10,000 down for as long as you've been on here as relatively "successful" even before you've gone on this amazing run ,little more than a tenner a week for your entertainment.

I'm guessing that perhaps you've tried laying perhaps a few times before and gotten caught early and reverted to your normal play, but this time you haven't been hit and consequently have been able to snowball the way you have, I'm also guessing that the last year has felt like the most incredible experience ever culminating in wanting to sort of tell us about it...which I don't blame you for one bit by the way...it's a well done and long may it continueCoolCool
Report lump0n May 15, 2024 7:51 PM BST
I’m in profit……. For now!
Report lump0n May 15, 2024 7:51 PM BST
I’m in profit……. For now!
Report freddiewilliams May 15, 2024 8:03 PM BST
Any crumbs before the end of season
Report lump0n May 15, 2024 9:54 PM BST
Pick a lay and go with it …. You’ll be surprised how well you can do
Report Emitdeb May 15, 2024 10:19 PM BST
Hail the Messiah! Love
Report freddiewilliams May 16, 2024 4:00 PM BST
I'm a backer. Either the draw and away team. Or draw and home team. Or away team and home team.
Report freddiewilliams May 17, 2024 5:34 PM BST
Westham tomorrow ?
Report Emitdeb May 17, 2024 5:49 PM BST
Lay WBA tonight... Cool
Report TameTheTiger May 17, 2024 6:02 PM BST
West Ham wont be winning tomorrow for sure.
Report TameTheTiger May 17, 2024 6:03 PM BST
If West Ham or Everton score first, lay them until your nose bleeds.
Report freddiewilliams May 17, 2024 6:35 PM BST
That lumpers usual mo tigger
Report lump0n May 17, 2024 9:37 PM BST
Oh when the saints……
Report G Hall May 17, 2024 9:40 PM BST
Good call lump on
Report lump0n May 17, 2024 9:42 PM BST
I didn’t post it but had the lay on
Report freddiewilliams May 18, 2024 2:07 PM BST
I backed Southampton and the draw
Report freddiewilliams May 19, 2024 2:22 PM BST
Come on lumper. Give us ure first tip on the last day
Report TameTheTiger May 19, 2024 2:27 PM BST
He'll be laying West Ham and Everton, regardless of if they take the lead.
Report freddiewilliams May 19, 2024 2:29 PM BST
Does he lay 28
Report duffy May 19, 2024 2:45 PM BST
I reckon he'd lay a 28 to win £50.
Report DIE LINKE May 20, 2024 2:23 PM BST
Only sure thing posted on this before the event on here was duffy's missus.
Report duffy May 20, 2024 4:29 PM BST
Laugh
Report G Hall May 24, 2024 8:26 AM BST
How was you're week lump on?
Report TameTheTiger May 24, 2024 1:09 PM BST
He may well have layed Atalanta for a lump when 1-0 up, like I did Cry
Report duffy May 24, 2024 4:19 PM BST
Bayern 2-0 up, lost 4-2
Report Emitdeb May 26, 2024 7:46 AM BST
There's been some major banana skins lately... I just know lump0n has avoided them.. CoolCool
Report Emitdeb June 8, 2024 4:22 PM BST
I was having a great week, till England and Iceland... CryCryCry
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