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xaar
23 Feb 24 17:43
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just noticed in the last couple of weeks they have cut 1.5 prices for my account how on earth is this legal???
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Report scandanavian_haven February 23, 2024 5:58 PM GMT
they don't change prices for individual customers, they'd be the same for everyone, if they wanted to restrict you they'd restrict how much you can put on.
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:00 PM GMT
they have for scan coventry 2/9 1.5 leeds 1/6 real sociedad 1/4 bologna 1/3 lyon 4/11 all shorter others accounts but mine is bigger surely this isnt legal
Report layingisthewayforward February 23, 2024 6:09 PM GMT
OP talking utter nonsense imo
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:14 PM GMT
wish i was lay,didn't know they could do this
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:20 PM GMT
I can’t understand what he trying to say. I’ve read it several times too.
Report Emitdeb February 23, 2024 6:21 PM GMT
Guessing he maybe confusing 90 minute prices...
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:22 PM GMT
kenbo they are offering me way under-cut prices on 1.5 goals on sportsbook than everyone else
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:22 PM GMT
emitdeb nope 1.5 goals
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:26 PM GMT
How do you know that?
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:28 PM GMT
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:29 PM GMT
On Sportsbook I’m seeing

Coventry 1/4
Leeds 1/5
Real Soc 1/4
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:29 PM GMT
kenbo compare what they are giving you
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:30 PM GMT
Every price you have posted is shorter than what I’m seeing.
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:31 PM GMT
thats been going on a long time, dont know how long Sad
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:31 PM GMT
crazy kenbo done with them
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:31 PM GMT
Is that the app? I’m looking on the website.
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:33 PM GMT
website and app ken
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:35 PM GMT
That’s a bit dodgy. Can anyone else see what prices they’re seeing on the Sportsbook?
Report everyone's a winner February 23, 2024 6:36 PM GMT
mine are same as yours kenbo
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:37 PM GMT
Nice one. Cool
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:41 PM GMT
Post a screenshot of over 2.5, Xaar, see if they vary too.
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:44 PM GMT
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:48 PM GMT
A few are the same price. Other ones on yours are fractionally shorter. Still seems very wrong.
Report xaar February 23, 2024 6:51 PM GMT
i know right, i checked the 2.5 earlier and it was a lot worse and adjusted a bit, maybe a lot of people haven't noticed this going on.
Report s.kenbo February 23, 2024 6:58 PM GMT
Coventry has just gone 2/9 under and 3/1 over. Completely different overrounds compared with your first screenshot. I’m guessing the prices are worse on the app.
Report xaar February 23, 2024 10:14 PM GMT
Report xaar February 23, 2024 10:14 PM GMT
ken my championship prices for tomorrow
Report loui February 23, 2024 10:32 PM GMT
Has your account been hacked kenbo
Report s.kenbo February 24, 2024 2:05 PM GMT
Quite a difference at the moment, Xaar. I’d imagine yours has changed a lot since then.

Not sure what you mean by that, Loui.
Report xaar March 1, 2024 11:27 AM GMT
kenbo ive discovered a weird thing, see my betfair page keeps switching to this new site they are launching im one of the 50% to test the cr"p, and it cuts my prices, but on the days its on the old site it normal. like wtf betfair
Report xaar March 6, 2024 2:56 PM GMT
kenbo are you around.
Report xaar March 6, 2024 3:04 PM GMT
real madrid 1.5 1-9 my account on new site 1-14 surely this illegal pricing???
Report s.kenbo March 6, 2024 3:10 PM GMT
I’m seeing 1/9 for Real too.
Report s.kenbo March 6, 2024 3:11 PM GMT
Man City 1/14.

Does seem dodgy.
Report xaar March 6, 2024 3:15 PM GMT
Report xaar March 6, 2024 3:16 PM GMT
1-14 youre getting value, 1-50 here SadSadSad
Report s.kenbo March 6, 2024 3:21 PM GMT
Wow.
Report xaar March 6, 2024 3:40 PM GMT
i know kenbo, after nearly 20 years betting on here this is the last straw for me, I don't know what's going on, I have been on chat and they are useless, they also said the new sites have been rolled out for everyone and cannot be rolled back, its absolutely brutal whoever idea it was needs sacking.
Report Hayden March 6, 2024 4:07 PM GMT
1.5 Goals


1/9

5/1

Real Madrid game on new sportsbook site
Report xaar March 6, 2024 4:24 PM GMT
i have a friend who is the same hayden on the new site, why would they have cut my prices i honestly don't know.
Report xaar March 6, 2024 4:26 PM GMT
on chat is like trying to get blood from a stone, is everyone from India ffs
Report Hayden March 6, 2024 4:32 PM GMT
Can't be anything other that an attempt to restrict your business can it mate , what's your p/l like on those markets ?

Not sure it's relevant but i've never had a football bet on any site , so i'm seen as a clean punter maybe , i'm guessing.
Report xaar March 6, 2024 4:37 PM GMT
ive had a few wins last month, but well down, scum of the earth so they are since the Americans bought them out, I honestly hope they fail
Report xaar March 6, 2024 4:40 PM GMT
its weird tho hayden, when i clear my cookies and cache it will return to old site and I'll get the normal prices, then maybe it will login new site and the cut prices appears, I don't know its very weird.
Report xaar March 6, 2024 5:03 PM GMT
At Betfair we offer a wide range of promotions and concessions to our customers. These include Money Back Specials, Best Price Guaranteed, Free Bets and other bonuses.

Our Trading Department review accounts on a regular basis, we regret to inform you that we are no longer able to offer you any such promotions, with immediate effect.

This decision has been taken after careful consideration and will not affect your ability to bet on our Sportsbook or any other Betfair product.
I do apologies for any inconvenience caused.

This decision is in line with our Terms and Conditions, Betfair may, at its sole discretion and without any requirement to give reasons, exclude any customer from the Services generally or from receiving selected promotions (e.g. guaranteed best price; bonuses; free bets; enhanced prices; and money-back specials) and any other promotions and offers introduced by us from time to time!
Report xaar March 6, 2024 5:04 PM GMT
got sent this load of bollox
Report Bish Bosher March 6, 2024 7:35 PM GMT
Ha Ha I got sent an e mail from Bet £3.65 a couple of months ago; more or less the exact same wording obviously with their name on rather than betfair; wonder if there is any connection ?
Report Bish Bosher March 6, 2024 7:35 PM GMT
Ha Ha I got sent an e mail from Bet £3.65 a couple of months ago; more or less the exact same wording obviously with their name on rather than betfair; wonder if there is any connection ?
Report Ell March 6, 2024 8:45 PM GMT
They send loads of emails about "loyalty" "bonus" and "responsible gambling".
I did all 3 and they sent me this one.

Due to the nature of your business, a decision has been made to close your account with immediate effect.
Report xaar March 7, 2024 10:51 AM GMT
got a message after that saying ignore last message Angry prices still cut for me scamming foooooks
Report xaar March 8, 2024 12:52 AM GMT
Report xaar March 8, 2024 12:52 AM GMT
the scam continues
Report longbridge March 8, 2024 10:07 AM GMT
Interesting if BF really are offering different prices to different customers.

I have often thought that doing so would be the better solution than stake-factoring.

Rather than showing a price and then refusing to take bets at that price, or restricting to pennies, show the price you are actually prepared to take?
Report dave1357 March 8, 2024 10:31 AM GMT
hmmm seems like bait and switch to me. ie the advertised price odds checker/not logged on disappears when the customer requests it (perhaps after having deposited). If the Gambling Commission gave a tiny fck about its statutory obligation to make gambling fair, they would step in and stop the practice.
Report s.kenbo March 8, 2024 11:14 AM GMT
I’ve never seen a page like the one Xaar has posted. If I look on Sportsbook there’s a lot of yellow, no black or blue. Is that the app? Are other people using the app seeing the same or different prices? I’d have thought tailor made prices for each individual would be difficult to do, it’s probably not as hard as I first thought.
Xaar can’t be a lone case in this.
Report longbridge March 8, 2024 11:23 AM GMT
dave - how is that worse than showing a price (logged out or logged in) and then refusing to take bets at that price?
Report xaar March 8, 2024 2:37 PM GMT
kenbo its the new site it was rolled out to 50% of customers, ive been on chat and they confirmed its permanant and everyone will have it soon, its one of the worst ideas ever and whoever is over it should be sacked, its far harder to navigate, for me i back 1.5 goals market a lot and you need to go into each game to get odds, weird thing is it has been going back to old site the odd day and i get normal prices but this past few days stuck on new one, this has gone on for about 6 weeks or more.
Report xaar March 8, 2024 2:58 PM GMT
Report xaar March 8, 2024 2:59 PM GMT
when i clear cache and cookies it comes back but i click on anything the new crap comes up
Report s.kenbo March 8, 2024 3:11 PM GMT
With you, thanks.

TBF even the ‘good’ o1.5 prices are terrible. You’d need to backing plenty of them in an acca to get any kind of price worthy of a punt. Of course that just higher the chances of throwing in a 1-0 or 0-0. Not a bet I’d ever bother with.
Report Trevh March 8, 2024 3:40 PM GMT
Xaar, I'm on the new website too, but presumably you don't actually bet on the sportsbook, just use it for looking at prices? I mean their prices are some of the worst I've seen. You can use oddschecker or other bookie sites to look at prices.
Report xaar March 8, 2024 3:48 PM GMT
kenbo im a glutton for punishment lol ive backed these kinda bets for years, 20 fold mug accas Laugh you'd be surprised the amount of times you will win or get into a good cashout position, do 2.5 btts as well.trevh i have for years they are the same for what i bet on more or less, whos better in your opinion.
Report xaar March 8, 2024 3:50 PM GMT
its sad you cant get the advertised price, trevh the new site is an absolute diaster, mess
Report Trevh March 8, 2024 3:54 PM GMT
Xaar, personally I wouldn't use any bookmaker, but if I did I would check around to see who's offering the best price.

Does anyone actually make long term profit from a bookmaker? Must be one in a million?
Report dave1357 March 8, 2024 4:04 PM GMT
longbridge • March 8, 2024 11:23 AM GMT
dave - how is that worse than showing a price (logged out or logged in) and then refusing to take bets at that price?


Apparently the legality of that is based on contract law, offers/counter offers. And clearly the punter hasn't been disadvantaged by the refusal to take the bet. Giving individual prices that are lower than the market is grossly disadvantaging the punter, is exploitation and should breach the ukgc's statutory objectives.
Report xaar March 8, 2024 4:10 PM GMT
dave i thought this was the case
Report s.kenbo March 8, 2024 5:00 PM GMT
A 20 fold acca at average odds of around 1/10 only pays 11/2. I wouldn’t want to try and land 20 legs for such a small return. I’ve no doubt the o2.5 and btts accas pay much much more.
Report xaar March 8, 2024 6:16 PM GMT
kenbo i try for odds of 2/5 to maybe 1/6, I've had a 25 fold twice, i mix and match them 2.5 btts, for small stakes can win nice
Report AKsooted March 8, 2024 6:32 PM GMT
Interesting thread. I can't shed any light on why you're getting different prices. I just wanted to say that the new website is a giant steaming pile of elephant shyte. Whoever designed it needs dragging out and hung from the nearest tree.
Report xaar March 8, 2024 6:47 PM GMT
AKsooted agreed and i bet they were paid handsomely for it LaughLaughLaugh one of the main reasons I used betfair is the site is great this will end it for me, I don't know how other users feel because the forum is so dead, be great to hear other input.
Report s.kenbo March 8, 2024 7:22 PM GMT
Good luck, Xaar. Big returns for modest outlays is what most of us like.
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