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By Richard Foster for The Football Mine


Just over 50 years ago George Best played his last match for Manchester United. On New Year’s Day 1974, First Division newcomers Queens Park Rangers took on United at Loftus Road. The game featured two goals from a mercurial maverick, including a characteristically mazy dribble past four opposing players before slipping the ball under the keeper. The player in question was not Best, however, but the equally talented and similarly flawed Stan Bowles. QPR’s 3-0 victory, their first ever over United, left the visitors languishing in 20th place and still in the bottom three. The season ended in United’s ignominious relegation to Division Two.

A few weeks later United’s manager Tommy Docherty lost patience with his wayward star after he missed training several more times and he dropped Best for an FA Cup tie against Plymouth Argyle. Best recalled his exchange with Docherty: “I said, ‘Fair enough’. He rabbited on for a bit but to tell you the truth I wasn’t listening. I was thinking, ‘Here we are playing a Third Division side at home and he doesn’t reckon I’m good enough to be in the side’.” It was an inglorious exit for the 27-year-old, who made almost 500 appearances for the club, including the crowning glory of the European Cup final win over Benfica in 1968.

During the next decade Best spent the twilight of his career drifting between 10 clubs and over four continents, never settling in one place for very long. Having spent 13 years at United, after arriving from Belfast as a 15-year-old, he racked up an eclectic array of clubs. The first stop for the Northern Irishman after leaving United was an unusual one and, as ever with Best’s career, not without controversy. In May 1974 he headed out to South Africa to play for a Johannesburg-based club, Jewish Guild, who had recently been promoted to the top division. This move came during the height of the apartheid era and the South African National Football League was a segregated one, with black teams forced to play in separate leagues.

Despite the inherent moral issues, South African clubs managed to attract British players to play for a few games to boost attendances as well as raising the standard of the football. Dozens of high-profile players were lured by the financial rewards, including Best’s former teammate Bobby Charlton and his brother Jack. Indeed in Best’s first match for Jewish Guild against Hellenic, both World Cup-winning captain Bobby Moore and England international Jeff Astle were playing for the opposition. In anticipation of a much larger crowd the club moved the match to the Rand Stadium from their normal home and 30,000 watched. Interest waned rapidly and a few games later Best played his last match for Jewish Guild in front of less than 10,000.

If playing in South Africa was an odd choice his next port of call bordered on the surreal as he ended up playing against United in a pre-season friendly. Back in England he was enticed by an old friend and former teammate at United’s academy to play a couple of matches for a club who were languishing in the Southern League Division One North, the sixth tier of English league football. Dunstable Town were managed by Barry Fry who used his persuasive powers to initially persuade Docherty to release Best, as he was still officially registered with United, and then coax Best himself to turn out for the struggling club.

Fry told the BBC in 2021 about the reason behind his approach to Best. “My first crowd was 34, and the next was 43 because I made all my family come from Bedford. We were about to finish at the bottom for the ninth year running, and I needed a gimmick.” Not only did Fry pull off the coup of securing Best’s services but he also managed to persuade United to bring a reserve team to play Dunstable as part of their pre-season preparations. The United team included George Graham, who had won several honours at Arsenal and Chelsea and on 5 August, a little over six months after he had departed Old Trafford, Best was helping Dunstable to a 3-2 victory over his old team.

Fry’s gimmick worked as the Bedfordshire club’s heightened profile led to them being able to attract better players, including Astle, who Best had faced in South Africa a few months beforehand. Astle went on to score over 30 goals as Dunstable were duly promoted with regular crowds of over 1,000.

For the remainder of his playing career Best divided his time mainly between a handful of British clubs in the lower echelons of the Football League and the North American Soccer League. In 1975 he made his debut for Stockport County, who had finished bottom of the Fourth Division a few seasons beforehand. After scoring in a friendly against First Division Stoke City he made just three league appearances for Stockport before a move to Cork Celtic and shortly afterwards he was heading to the west coast of America.

In between his two spells with the LA Aztecs, he returned to English football with second tier Fulham and alongside Moore and Rodney Marsh, a ticket at Craven Cottage became hot property. Best made an immediate impact by scoring in the second minute of his debut against Bristol Rovers but the famed triumvirate failed to galvanise Fulham, who finished just a point above relegation.

After returning to the LA Aztecs he went on to play for both the Fort Lauderdale Strikers and the San Jose Earthquakes. He occasionally displayed his latent skills, including what was dubbed The Greatest Goal in NASL history. However, his erratic behaviour yet again affected his performances and ill discipline led to him missing training sessions. On several occasions he did not turn up on matchdays when selected to play. Another brief dalliance back in the UK in 1979 saw him try to keep Hibernian in the top division.

When that rescue attempt failed, a few games for Third Division Bournemouth in 1982 preceded his final club move to Australia. In a strange twist of fate Best’s Australian National Soccer League debut for Brisbane Lions was against Sydney Olympic and there was a familiar face in the opposition dugout. Best must have derived immense satisfaction from Brisbane’s 2-1 win over a side managed by Docherty.
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Report lfc1971 February 10, 2024 8:51 PM GMT
Utube Spurs v Man Utd ( 1965)
Report unitedbiscuits February 10, 2024 9:23 PM GMT
While Best was sinking like a stone, Beckenbauer and Cruyff doing the business.

It's a mind thing, more than anything. Best didn't have that mental resilience, he was a great player - miles better than Dalgleish - but he squandered his talent.
Report MALAY February 10, 2024 10:50 PM GMT
seen Cruyff live great player, great experience. Best was a great player no doubts, miles better than KD, not sure on that. Sure it's all about opinions Jimmy Johnstone above  Best, plenty would say yes. Perhaps even George himself.
Report jimnast February 11, 2024 6:32 AM GMT
Good morning the dragon

Back to Ian rush he was around when live football was in its infancy other than England games the fa cup final and the European cup final live football wasn’t allowed and bets were restricted on live games only,the odds compilers got the odds wrong on the first goal scorer for a couple of years rush was around 6/1 to be the first goal scorer you just wanted Liverpool to be on live every week .

Sparrow might remember the first live game it was West Ham against charlton at Upton Park n the fa cup what a treat for football fans on a Sunday afternoon.
Report MALAY February 11, 2024 9:16 AM GMT
rush could press very hard worker off the ball, then king kenny would play him in, btw i'm not liverpool fan
Report second again February 11, 2024 9:45 AM GMT
Best was the best British player I have seen.
Report lfc1971 February 11, 2024 12:30 PM GMT
imo Greaves was better than Best, and by a margin
Report jimnast February 11, 2024 1:36 PM GMT
What at Wink
Report lfc1971 February 11, 2024 2:04 PM GMT
On the pitch Greaves in every way ,, he was just such a beautiful player
Of the field Best , but only because of the beautiful women Happy
Report lfc1971 February 11, 2024 2:13 PM GMT
Why is Best considered so good ?
Because of his great ability- but also
because no one had ever seen a footballer quite like him before
He was in the right place at the right time and like a rock star
To be the first is a very difficult thing to be
Report LoyalHoncho February 11, 2024 2:23 PM GMT
Best, almost effortlessly, produced some of the greatest football I, and thousands upon thousands of others, have ever seen.
As for Pele praising Best out of jealousy and because he wasn't being sincere, well, that's even bigger pysh than Ashbourne's.  Laugh  Only Messi has bettered his skill performances in my lifetime, and even then it;s a close run thing.
Report lfc1971 February 11, 2024 2:33 PM GMT
Pele, for what he did in the 1970 World Cup

will forever be the worlds greatest footballer
Report jimnast February 11, 2024 2:36 PM GMT
That’s a fair point he really was magnificent in that World Cup the best world cup I’ve seen ,his pass to his captain in the final was both simple and superb ,I could watch that goal every day.
Report lfc1971 February 11, 2024 2:37 PM GMT
An snapshot of what I mean about Best
think of the 60s and a photograph of three great footballers ..teammates
Charlton , Law, and Best , all superb … Best was a new image , a new type of footballer
A new type of person
Report sparrow February 11, 2024 5:37 PM GMT
I only saw one player make a fool of Bobby Moore and that was Best one day at Old Trafford turning him inside and out. As a West Ham fan I was not pleased but had to admire something even Pele never managed.
Report The Dragon February 11, 2024 6:04 PM GMT
best was a magician with the football. my dad reckoned the only player better than him was stanley matthews but i would noyt know about that.

Best was the best i have ever seen
Report sparrow February 11, 2024 6:31 PM GMT
I saw plenty of Matthews and he was a really good player but certainly not better than Best.
Report ashbourne February 11, 2024 6:41 PM GMT
'Only Messi has bettered his skill performances in my lifetime, and even then it;s a close run thing.'

Close?, how silly
Report REDROB February 11, 2024 8:16 PM GMT
Taking the pitches the ball the boots and referees protection into account George Best would be a far far better player in todays game than he was in the 60s & 70s. Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't have survived back then especially if they were expected to do it for a few hundred quid a week.

Was my boyhood hero and his name described him perfectly.
Report The Dragon February 11, 2024 8:36 PM GMT
spot on red rob best was simply the best

mentally flawed but the most magnificant and gifted football ever imvho

he was memorising to watch a true genius whose like we will probably never see again

i regard it as a priveledge to have seen him play live.

the liverpool fans loved him in a bizzare kind of way and thats the measure of the player he was. he had the respect of the kop and anfield for sure and as a man u player that was exceptional to say the least.

one strength he had which often goes unmentiomed was his physical strength and poise. he took loads of hard tackles in his stride and avoided some crunching tacles with the movement of a ballerina.

top top player
Report The Dragon February 11, 2024 8:38 PM GMT
they sat that genuis and insanity are closely linked . he was a genius on the pitch and insane off it
Report ashbourne February 11, 2024 9:14 PM GMT
'Taking the pitches the ball the boots and referees protection into account George Best would be a far far better player in todays game than he was in the 60s & 70s. Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't have survived back then especially if they were expected to do it for a few hundred quid a week.'

Messi would've adapted 100%. Maradona was booted all around the pitch and a tough little fk'er.
The best ever is either Messi and Maradona. Best was very good, but just he's never in their league.
Report The Dragon February 11, 2024 9:44 PM GMT
ashbourne u dont have a clueLaugh
Report The Dragon February 11, 2024 9:45 PM GMT
and by the way you habe made yourself look a very foolish person on this threadCrazy

which you probably are not
Report hulk23 February 11, 2024 10:04 PM GMT
I saw him play once for Hibs, away to St. Mirren. Couple of nice touches/passes but a damp squib otherwise.

best was staying in a suite at the north british (now balmoral).  got a taxi down to training when he could drag himself away from whatever debauchery was going on inside the suite.  was also about 4 stone overweight, so not really surprising you didn't see the best version of him that day at Love Street
Report ashbourne February 11, 2024 10:13 PM GMT
Thanks Dragon! :) I doubt there's many arguments for George Best being the best ever out side of the British Isles though
Report Capt__F February 11, 2024 10:20 PM GMT
Carlton Palmer
Report stewarts rise February 12, 2024 9:24 AM GMT
One thing that regularly gets overlooked in these debates, is that Georgie Best could tackle really well, slide in get the ball and dance away with it. Which is something you never see Messi, Maradona or Ronaldo do.
Remember seeing him on Parkinson, where he said if he was playing in the modern game, he'd still be playing at 50 as a sweeper.
Report sparrow February 12, 2024 9:45 AM GMT
That is very true stewarts and no way would Messi, Maradona etc tackle as well as George could. I think we all tend to forget his defensive skills.
Report ashbourne February 12, 2024 9:54 AM GMT
'Remember seeing him on Parkinson, where he said if he was playing in the modern game, he'd still be playing at 50 as a sweeper.'

Sure the game needs a 50 year old pisshead...
Report stewarts rise February 12, 2024 10:35 AM GMT
True, you don't get the pissheads,(as you put it) now as Bestie and Greavsie were, they tend to use other recreational things to east the pressure of being a top star now. Maradona forever known as a cheat was coked up to his bulging eyes for one.
   Talking of pissheads, two of the finest players we ever had at the Villa were Paul Mcgrath and Paul Merson, but on the pitch they were great players, Mcgrath being the best defender i've seen.
Report stewarts rise February 12, 2024 10:49 AM GMT
Pele was fabulous as was Messi, with Cryff very nearly as good but Best was the best because he could do everything on a mudheap with a caseball not these flimsy plastic balls anyone can hit 50 yards and bend in from corners free kicks etc. Also after 68 Best was playing in a very average Man Utd team, not with world class players as Messi, Ronaldo, Cryff, Maradona and Pele did for their clubs and at international level.
   Remember seeing George play against the Villa in a LC 2nd leg semi final at VP, their team was that poor that Villa a 3rd division side then drew 1-1 at OT and beat them 2-1 in 2nd leg, but for the 1st 20 mins of the 2nd half all the commentator needed to say was "Best has the ball."
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND February 12, 2024 11:57 AM GMT
Comparing players from different generations and different teams is hard.  Pitches have changed, refereeing has changed diets have changed. Some of the stars like Messi, at his peak for instance do you think he would shine
as much with West Ham today compared to the Barcelona team he shone with? If he was that great he should.
Some really good players have come and gone, however when they left the club they are most associated with...they do not look so good. Some of the greats need good solid pros around them. Possibly the match of the day (start/end credit) not sure which, showing Best scoring against Chelsea in a bog and the sigh of Chopper Harris trying to take him out, half of the so called greats would have pooped themselves.
Report The Dragon February 12, 2024 2:58 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaughASF
Report The Dragon February 12, 2024 3:01 PM GMT
Best also had incredible natural strength for a fairly slight man. The way he avoided heavy tackles and shouldered them when he was hit was amazing.

From memory he was not injury prone either despite the very heavy tackles he continually had to endure
Report jimnast February 12, 2024 3:26 PM GMT
Alien

That was a Wednesday night game and the highlights were shown on sportsnight with Coleman,at the start of the programme he said something like if there’s any young children just getting ready to go to bed just let them stay up a bit longer as we have a real treat for you coming up.
Report LoyalHoncho February 12, 2024 3:46 PM GMT
Chopper Harris tried to scythe him off at the knees one day and he never raised an eyebrow.
As you say he had surprising strength but he also have what all the greats have - incredible courage.
For a while at least.
Best could have played in any position on the park, so good was he.
A footballer.
Report ashbourne February 12, 2024 5:52 PM GMT
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/football/best-football-players-all-time/

I think you hold him in too high esteem. This is a British publication, doesn't even feature top 10. Same goes for many other polls.

General consensus is there's plenty better than Best
Report The Dragon February 12, 2024 6:09 PM GMT
thats premier league which of course best did not play in
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 6:40 PM GMT
Would a UK team ever have backed up England's WC win in 1966?

Best in Mexico? Souness, Hansen and Dalgleish again in Mexico (86) ? England in France '98 (with the left footer Giggs) ?


Doubt it but genuinely think Bellingham - Kane -Foden will deliver a European Champioship, and maybe another World Cup.
Report The Dragon February 12, 2024 6:48 PM GMT
1970 team was the best England ever had. should have won it
Report ashbourne February 12, 2024 7:30 PM GMT
'thats premier league which of course best did not play in' Nope
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 8:35 PM GMT

Feb 12, 2024 -- 12:48PM, The Dragon wrote:


1970 team was the best England ever had. should have won it


It was the best England team but if we had faced Pele's Brasil in the Azteca stadium - even with George Best, Jimmy Johstone and Billy Bremner - I think we would have lost. Fated. Like Argentina's win in '78. Nothing Holland could have done about it, even if Cruyff had played.

Report The Dragon February 12, 2024 8:39 PM GMT
aye UB fate as againstus for sure but deffona better team than the one that won in 66
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 9:10 PM GMT
It meant so much to me then. Same to you I'm sure The Dragon. Since then , less and less.

But we'll win this summer, and maybe '26.
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 9:57 PM GMT
The England 74 team was better than the 1970 team , and the 66 team
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:07 PM GMT
Look at just these players Shilton , Clemence , Hunter , McFarland , Cooper ,
Bell , Hughes , Brooking , Dobson , Weller , Bowles , Francis , Madeley,
Peters , Thomas , Ball , Channon , Keegan , Worthington, McDonald , Clarke
( Hector one of my favourites)
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 10:08 PM GMT
Ha ha - the England '74 team was useless.

Gordon Banks - lost an eye!

Bobby Moore - brain gone.

Norman Hunter - out of his depth, his agricultural style would have upset international refs.

Up front - no killers, unless you imagine Kevin Hector on drugs.
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:09 PM GMT
Also Phil Parkes , David Watson , David Nish , Alec Lindsay ,
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:10 PM GMT
Alan Clarke was an ice cold killer
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:11 PM GMT
Hector was a gem and a gifted goalscorer
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 10:13 PM GMT

Feb 12, 2024 -- 4:10PM, lfc1971 wrote:


Alan Clarke was an ice cold killer


If only he was. Keegan was already his master by '74. And Keegan was no Maradona.

Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:16 PM GMT
Keegan was a totally different player
Clarke was a specialist ,  a very rare breed
Report Capt__F February 12, 2024 10:18 PM GMT
sniff
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:21 PM GMT
The Capt has had another bump on the head
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:21 PM GMT
Shell shocked from the last war
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 10:22 PM GMT
Clough had Hector and Clarke. Reason he paid a million for the untutored Trevor Francis was not for his footballing brain but his acceleration. Thank Birmingham City FC for that, the club gave him a year to fully recover from ligament damage. He paid his believers back, but England never had the number ten, the conjuror, to turn a match. Afaik we still lack that player - Gascoigne came close, Rooney came close..
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:23 PM GMT
When did Clough have Clarke ?  He bought Francis in 79
Hector was long past his best and so was Clarke ,, both were better than Francis
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:26 PM GMT
A number 10 to change the game ? Bowles and Gerry Francis
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 10:28 PM GMT
Clarke was at Leeds when Clough was appointed manager, I believe. (just checked the internet and yes he was)
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:31 PM GMT
And Clarke was Cloughs favourite at Leeds ,  now you mention it
Told Bremner and Giles not to be mistaken to get him the ball - he scores the goals
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:34 PM GMT
Giles and Bremner took the hump
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 10:35 PM GMT
Allan Clarke was the Marlene Deitrich of football.

Right down to being a heavy smoker.
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:36 PM GMT
There’s no good talking about football ub
If you don’t understand who’s good and who’s not
I think Brian Clough knew
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:39 PM GMT
And there’s no point comparing keegan to Clarke
They are totally different players ,,
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 10:45 PM GMT
Yet both could not have played in the same England team in '74.

So, who was better? Noted your vote for Clarke but he was/is not character to pin your colours to..but if that's the ditch you want to die in, lfc1971..
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:47 PM GMT
I’ve given you the list of players ,, I’m not going to take you
through it step by step . It’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:51 PM GMT
By the way I would have played Hector in that match against Poland
He came on as sub with about 5 min to go and in the last min he stooped to head a corner
close in which was scrambled off the line
Report unitedbiscuits February 12, 2024 10:53 PM GMT

Feb 12, 2024 -- 4:45PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


Yet both could not have played in the same England team in '74.So, who was better? Noted your vote for Clarke but he was/is not character to pin your colours to..but if that's the ditch you want to die in, lfc1971..


Sorry to have disappointed you on this occasion..

Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 10:57 PM GMT
Not at all I’ve found it very amusing
there’s knowledge , names , dates ,etc there is understanding - they’re not the same thing

That’s where you are going wrong
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 11:06 PM GMT
Poland of course came third in the World Cup to two of the greatest ever teams
Chuffs Holland and Beckenbauers West Germany
Report lfc1971 February 12, 2024 11:09 PM GMT
Johan Cruyff
Report jimnast February 13, 2024 8:16 AM GMT
CrazyCrazyEngland 74 team better than the 70 team
Report sparrow February 13, 2024 9:11 AM GMT
I was thinking the same jimnast.Grin
Report lfc1971 February 13, 2024 11:15 AM GMT
The flaw in England International teams ( and it’s the same as with Best ) is they are too indisciplined -
When they go to away to the World Cup they treat it as a vacation - Even in 1970 this was their downfall
and someone who was known as a strict disciplinarian - Ramsay - was too lax and gave too much freedom
In fact when Banks took I’ll after drinking a bottle of beer they shouldn’t have been in that hotel
It was somewhere the team bus had driven past before on the way back from training and the players had asked to visit
This time Ramsay said ok
Report lfc1971 February 13, 2024 11:22 AM GMT
Stop worrying about hotels and restaurants and wives and drinking beer
You’re there to win the World Cup focus on that !
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 2:11 PM GMT
74 team were no way better than 70 team.LaughLaughLaughLaugh if it had not been for the injury to banks we surely wd have won it

Brazil closely matched mind
Report Celeric February 13, 2024 2:21 PM GMT
Brazil were the best team ever, and you are right in that we were just behind. The 1970 team was better than the 1966 team. However since 1970 of all the major football countries we are the only team not to be in another final. Why ?
Report sparrow February 13, 2024 2:23 PM GMT
That's right dragon, far better team and but for Banks suffering fronm food poisoning would have gone close.
Report lfc1971 February 13, 2024 5:19 PM GMT
Brazil were far superior to England in 1970 - absurd to think there is any doubt
Report lfc1971 February 13, 2024 5:27 PM GMT
And no we were not just behind in ability , we were light years behind
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 5:35 PM GMT
they beat us 1-0 in the early rounds and were pretty fortunate with that

as i said earlier we were a really good team who didnt get the rub.

wether we wd have beaten brazil in the final is another matter. in the lap of the gods and we will never know
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 5:36 PM GMT
by the way i have the full collection of stickers for the tournemany in 1970Cool
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 5:37 PM GMT
pannini that is
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 5:38 PM GMT
el salvador and isreal where there.
Report lfc1971 February 13, 2024 5:59 PM GMT
Happy and Esso coins and the cards with all the teams , best of all world cups
good times
Report lfc1971 February 13, 2024 6:00 PM GMT
dragon Brazil were from another planet compared to England and every other team
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 6:08 PM GMT
Hey LFC have a look back at the footage of the tournemant and look at the great football England played despite all the problems eg Moore arrested etc

there was not a lot between the two teams who were both great
Report sparrow February 13, 2024 6:27 PM GMT
Remember Brazil winning in 1958 with great players such as Didi, Garrincha and a 17 year old Pele beating the host nation Sweden 5-2 in the final. England were unfortunate in being in the same group as Brazil but although holding them to 0-0 draw they also drew their other games and were beaten 1-0 by the Soviet Union in a play off for the quarter finals.
Report REDROB February 13, 2024 6:30 PM GMT
Only a few months after Munich sparrow so England would've had a few missing then.
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 6:33 PM GMT
before my time sparrow as was born in 58.

in the era i have seen  theengland team in 197s team were the best closely followed by boobby robsons team in 1990
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 6:34 PM GMT
1970
Report REDROB February 13, 2024 6:34 PM GMT
^^ I agree Dragon, why oh why did he feel the need to sub our bobby when he did.
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 6:36 PM GMT
indeed redrob indeed
Report sparrow February 13, 2024 6:38 PM GMT
REDROB 13 Feb 24 18:30 
Only a few months after Munich sparrow so England would've had a few missing then.





Yes a terrible time for football with the loss of possibly the greatest ever English player Duncan Edwards.
Report The Dragon February 13, 2024 6:40 PM GMT
never had the priveledge of watching duncan edwards but by all accounts that i have read he was very special
Report REDROB February 13, 2024 6:41 PM GMT
The one player that I regret never having seeing play sparrow.
Report REDROB February 13, 2024 6:42 PM GMT
seen not seeing
Report REDROB February 13, 2024 6:45 PM GMT
Every chance it would've been him lifting the trophy 8 years later.
Report sparrow February 13, 2024 7:46 PM GMT
REDROB 13 Feb 24 18:45 
Every chance it would've been him lifting the trophy 8 years later.






He probably would have done and I say that as a West Ham supporter.
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