Will Luton take Derby's Mantel as the Worst ever Premier League side ?

I think theyll get about 15 points, they wont get less in my opinion

Weirdly some Derby fans I speak too want to keep it, they say its something to laugh about for putting up with that season as a whole, makes a bit of sense I guess from that angle, but would you want to get humiliated in your chosen profession and actually look back on it fondly?

Strange bunch Derby fans

Would be a good market on here.

Some teams ease off and they could pick up easy points
If they don't give up like Derby and Sunderland.

They are currently 23.5-25 on spreads.

Only played 4 games
3 of them been away

Wafted from Paradise

Their EXG was better than Fulham's on Saturday

Got
Fulham 1.76
Luton 1.46

???


https://understat.com/league/EPL

..

Sheffield Utd
Burnley
Luton
Everton
Wolves

3 of the 5 will go down.

Luton have has good a chance of any of staying up.

^

3 promoted team will go down

I Got
Fulham 1.76
Luton 1.46

???

Flashscore has
Fulham 1.23
and Luton 1.35

TBF there are differences from different sources

At home to West Ham they have
Luton 1.39
West Ham 0.91

Anyhow they've clearly been unlucky.  I think their performances have arguably been better than Sheff Utd and Everton so far

Fair enough, still not as bad as results suggest.

But newly promoted teams often out perform at start
of season.

One to keep an eye on, and as above a market
on Luton earned season points would be good.

We can trade on relegation, and rock bottom

2.14 to back finish bottom
1.23 to back relegation

Not quite the same given possible points deductions etc.

Only Everton (3%) and Luton (4.7%) have a lower conversion rate
than Chelsea (6.2%) in the Premier League this season.

Whoscored.

Already looking a big game coming up:

Luton v Wolves this Saturday.

Pretty much a relegation 6-pointer, even at this stage of season!

I'd say Wolves are too short for that one, as clear favourites - they've been almost as poor as Luton so far and with home advantage in Luton's favour here.

Wolves were unlucky against Man Utd and Liverpool. They are far superior to Luton

I've steered clear of Wolves after the game against Utd. I agree they were very good in that game. Didn't see the game against Liverpool.

Wouldn't say unlucky v Liverpool, they fell apart after getting a lead in the game.

Also their win against Everton (only points) was lucky - they won't have easy game at Luton for sure.

Outplayed Wolves so far, and Wolves down to 10 men.

They would still want a goal though Luton.

...and that's why they needed a goal - wolves barely had a shot and go 1-0 up.

1-1, my Wolves lay should be safe (famous last words)...

doesn't look good, couldn't beat fellow relgation fodder Wolves at home with 10 men for 45 minutes, can't see where they're going to get the points from, I'd like to see them stay up but can't see it, came up with a Championship squad and still have one, didn't purchase any established premier League player and had nobody wanting to pinch any of their best players, Everton away next.

Yep, they'll see it as missed opportunity for sure. But I was only interested in Wolves not winning this one

Statisticaly Derby 2007/08 were the worst, but I'd say it is debatable that they were the worst team ever.

2007/08 was the strongest ever Premier League; the peak of the 'Big 4' era, when those 4 were the best 4 in Europe.

Also Everton had their best Moyes team. Portsmouth were very good with 'arry. Villa under MON  several players who would win titles in the future.

Tottenham had Berbatov, Keane, Bale but were also rans. Fulham had several good players and almost went down with Derby.

Then consider 2015/16, maybe the weakest ever Premier League. The top sides were fodder for Barcelona/Bayern, and there were journeyman teams making mid table easily.

And the Tim Sherwood/Remi Garde Villa side got about 16pts.

nah, it was Derby, Robbie Savage was captain

Statisticaly Derby 2007/08 were the worst

Sounds like weakest link voice-over!

Should have made this thread about Sheffield United instead, 1 point from 10 games, a real threat to Derby's mantel, don't think the manager is out of his depth though, he has a Championship squad in the Premier League.

Opta


This season, Sheffield United have conceded the most goals (29), have the joint-lowest points (1) and the joint-worst goal difference (-22) of any side after 10 games in Premier League history.

Sheff United having another crack at it after just failing in 2020/21

Burnley a sudden runner for this 'title' perhaps...?

Sheff U were due a win and Wolves are a good chance at home (hindsight a little as well)

I had a nibble at Burnley to finish bottom - given they were much bigger price than Sheff and Luton, yet have 1 point after a few easy fixtures...

1 win sorry, 4 points...

No.

Atrocious spelling/prediction

well done Mr Aftertimer, pat on the back for you, at least I give my opinion before the off. Some of us prefer to look smart after the event.

Luton picked up quite a bit.

They are an absolute joy to watch, and if they go down I wish them
a speedy return.