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17 Sep 23 19:53
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Derby's record in 07/08 as the worst ever Premier League side

P38 - W1 - D8 - L29 - F20:A89 - GD-69 - PTS11

Even after 4 games of that season Derby had 1 more point and 1 more goal than Luton currently have, with a +2 better goal difference

It's hard to see Luton winning a game all season, 12 pts would be a big ask, they don't look equipped for this level
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Report SontaranStratagem September 17, 2023 8:11 PM BST
I think theyll get about 15 points, they wont get less in my opinion

Weirdly some Derby fans I speak too want to keep it, they say its something to laugh about for putting up with that season as a whole, makes a bit of sense I guess from that angle, but would you want to get humiliated in your chosen profession and actually look back on it fondly?

Strange bunch Derby fans CrazyLaugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 17, 2023 8:21 PM BST
Would be a good market on here.

Some teams ease off and they could pick up easy points
If they don't give up like Derby and Sunderland.

They are currently 23.5-25 on spreads.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK September 17, 2023 8:54 PM BST
Only played 4 games
3 of them been away
Report Capt__F September 17, 2023 8:59 PM BST
Wafted from Paradise
Report CLYDEBANK29 September 17, 2023 10:01 PM BST
Their EXG was better than Fulham's on Saturday
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 17, 2023 10:23 PM BST
Fulham 1.76
Luton 1.46


Report barstool September 17, 2023 11:00 PM BST
Sheffield Utd

3 of the 5 will go down.

Luton have has good a chance of any of staying up.
Report Lifter September 18, 2023 12:37 AM BST
Laugh ^
Report morpteh mackem September 18, 2023 10:17 AM BST
3 promoted team will go down
Report CLYDEBANK29 September 18, 2023 11:25 AM BST
I Got
Fulham 1.76
Luton 1.46


Flashscore has
Fulham 1.23
and Luton 1.35

TBF there are differences from different sources

At home to West Ham they have
Luton 1.39
West Ham 0.91

Anyhow they've clearly been unlucky.  I think their performances have arguably been better than Sheff Utd and Everton so far
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 18, 2023 1:07 PM BST
Fair enough, still not as bad as results suggest.

But newly promoted teams often out perform at start
of season.

One to keep an eye on, and as above a market
on Luton earned season points would be good.

We can trade on relegation, and rock bottom

2.14 to back finish bottom
1.23 to back relegation

Not quite the same given possible points deductions etc.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 18, 2023 4:01 PM BST
Only Everton (3%) and Luton (4.7%) have a lower conversion rate
than Chelsea (6.2%) in the Premier League this season.

Report stu September 19, 2023 11:55 AM BST
Already looking a big game coming up:

Luton v Wolves this Saturday.

Pretty much a relegation 6-pointer, even at this stage of season!
Report stu September 19, 2023 11:56 AM BST
I'd say Wolves are too short for that one, as clear favourites - they've been almost as poor as Luton so far and with home advantage in Luton's favour here.
Report TameTheTiger September 19, 2023 12:13 PM BST
Wolves were unlucky against Man Utd and Liverpool. They are far superior to Luton
Report Aspro September 19, 2023 12:14 PM BST
I've steered clear of Wolves after the game against Utd. I agree they were very good in that game. Didn't see the game against Liverpool.
Report stu September 19, 2023 12:47 PM BST
Wouldn't say unlucky v Liverpool, they fell apart after getting a lead in the game.
Report stu September 19, 2023 12:48 PM BST
Also their win against Everton (only points) was lucky - they won't have easy game at Luton for sure.
Report stu September 23, 2023 3:44 PM BST
Outplayed Wolves so far, and Wolves down to 10 men.

They would still want a goal though Luton.
Report stu September 23, 2023 4:12 PM BST
...and that's why they needed a goal - wolves barely had a shot and go 1-0 up.
Report stu September 23, 2023 4:39 PM BST
1-1, my Wolves lay should be safe (famous last words)...
Report scandanavian_haven September 23, 2023 5:06 PM BST
doesn't look good, couldn't beat fellow relgation fodder Wolves at home with 10 men for 45 minutes, can't see where they're going to get the points from, I'd like to see them stay up but can't see it, came up with a Championship squad and still have one, didn't purchase any established premier League player and had nobody wanting to pinch any of their best players, Everton away next.
Report stu September 23, 2023 5:29 PM BST
Yep, they'll see it as missed opportunity for sure. But I was only interested in Wolves not winning this one Cool
Report tobermory September 23, 2023 6:29 PM BST
Statisticaly Derby 2007/08 were the worst, but I'd say it is debatable that they were the worst team ever.

2007/08 was the strongest ever Premier League; the peak of the 'Big 4' era, when those 4 were the best 4 in Europe.

Also Everton had their best Moyes team. Portsmouth were very good with 'arry. Villa under MON  several players who would win titles in the future.

Tottenham had Berbatov, Keane, Bale but were also rans. Fulham had several good players and almost went down with Derby.

Then consider 2015/16, maybe the weakest ever Premier League. The top sides were fodder for Barcelona/Bayern, and there were journeyman teams making mid table easily.

And the Tim Sherwood/Remi Garde Villa side got about 16pts.
Report scandanavian_haven September 23, 2023 7:36 PM BST
nah, it was Derby, Robbie Savage was captainLaugh
Report stu September 23, 2023 8:16 PM BST
Statisticaly Derby 2007/08 were the worst

Sounds like weakest link voice-over! Laugh
Report scandanavian_haven October 28, 2023 8:55 PM BST
Should have made this thread about Sheffield United instead, 1 point from 10 games, a real threat to Derby's mantel, don't think the manager is out of his depth though, he has a Championship squad in the Premier League.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2023 9:21 PM BST

This season, Sheffield United have conceded the most goals (29), have the joint-lowest points (1) and the joint-worst goal difference (-22) of any side after 10 games in Premier League history.
Report SontaranStratagem October 28, 2023 10:12 PM BST
Sheff United having another crack at it after just failing in 2020/21

Report stu November 4, 2023 5:17 PM GMT
Burnley a sudden runner for this 'title' perhaps...?
Report SontaranStratagem November 4, 2023 5:48 PM GMT
Sheff U were due a win and Wolves are a good chance at home (hindsight a little as well)
Report stu November 4, 2023 5:59 PM GMT
I had a nibble at Burnley to finish bottom - given they were much bigger price than Sheff and Luton, yet have 1 point after a few easy fixtures...
Report stu November 4, 2023 6:02 PM GMT
1 win sorry, 4 points...
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