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14 May 22 06:45
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Was about 11.30 ish on the coach’s
Interviews previews whole afternoon build up to the game
Now don’t give moneys who wins and rather be painting fence panels or something other
Sad how fa cup died for Neutral fan
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Report tobermory May 14, 2022 6:50 AM BST

Used to be on BBC & ITV, so they would try to get in front of each other by starting the broadcast earlier.

Was the only club game on live all season ( other than a European final), so main reason it was special. Also Wembley was special. Not so much when the teams have just played the semis there.
Report lovegod May 14, 2022 7:11 AM BST
Really miss It's a Cup Final Knockout.
Report sparrow May 14, 2022 9:18 AM BST
The 1953 final was the one that I will always remember and there was no ITV then but just the BBC.  The so called Matthews final despite Mortensen scoring a hat trick.

From wikipedia.......The match was considered the first major TV audience for a sporting event. Televisions had been bought or rented by many households for the forthcoming Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II. On Radio the match was broadcast in full on the BBC World Service and the second half on the domestic Light Programme. After this final proved to be so popular, the Cup Final was given its own standalone slot and broadcast in full on TV and radio.
Report morpteh mackem May 14, 2022 9:53 AM BST
bring back freddie starr
Report raspberrybottom May 14, 2022 9:59 AM BST
Can remember it starting about 8.30 am at the team hotels seeing them have breakfast and all that.

Was usually a sporting edition of "It's A Knockout" in there somewhere.

The "Road To The Final" bit showing highlights.

On the coaches to the ground waving at fans.

Players seemed much more approachable then (?)

Celebrities in the bars at Wembley pre-game

Maybe it was an age thing - young kids loving all of it - all seems very hum-drum now. Plain
Report sparrow May 14, 2022 10:12 AM BST
So very true, raspberry. I dont even bother watch to it now and couldn't tell you who had won it from one year to the next.
Report The Dragon May 14, 2022 1:31 PM BST
Yes it used to be a massive day for everyone.

I remember us all piling arounf to my m8 hose to watch the Leeds V chelsea final in Colour . how times have changed
Report TameTheTiger May 14, 2022 1:44 PM BST
Imagine if Everton had reached the final today, and would have to field a weakened team in the final due to more important league games coming up. Or Huddersfield in the final against Man City, with Huddersfield resting players due to the play off semi coming up
Report 11kv May 14, 2022 2:08 PM BST
Messed up when forced to play the semis at Wembley
Report roache May 14, 2022 10:19 PM BST
50 years ago the team winning the cup final after a night of celebrations were made to play a destiny defining league game on the Monday night with the double at stake, how times have changed
Report jimnast May 16, 2022 7:41 AM BST
Good morning the dragon

You mention the 1970 cup final probably my favourite cup final although I support neither Chelsea or Leeds ,like you I went round to somebody else house to watch the game in colour it was my dads friends house there were loads of his mates there who were all city fans (Manchester) as you will remember the game ended as a 2all draw ,so come the brutal reply the following Thursday we all went around again but this time we watched most of the game with the volume turned down and the wireless on .

Why would that be ?
Report jimnast May 16, 2022 7:54 AM BST
Like most males  50 plus it was the day I looked forward most in the year no matter who was in the final so many great memories,Jim Montgomerys save ,Rickie villa goal,the battle at old Trafford in 1970,Charlie George celebration Bobby Moore leading out Fulham,loads more as well ,the first time I went to the cup final was 1976 incredibly I remember it much more fondly than 77 , I was just so happy to have been there for the first many it now has little appeal to me no longer is the date in my calendar,however I must say watching the lockdown final between arsenal and Chelsea saddened me a lot to see nobody there to watch the game live so I suppose I still have some affection for cup final day.
Report rommel May 16, 2022 9:39 AM BST
the fa dismantled the magic of it brick by brick by brick-all the traditions and history,the draw(moved it),the semis moved to wembley.cynical moneygrabbing move(was a neutral ground convenient for both teams),one year man utd werent even in it(world club cup i think,japan?,not a dig at utd,thought they were leaned on/tricked/conned).it was magic cos we all thought it was magic,every  team/club/player/fan bought into it,a giant killing really was.cos every team was playing their best team(ok some of the bigger teams might rest a star but he'd be on the  bench),now you have tier 1 2 and 3rd tier teams resting numerous players....
Report rommel May 16, 2022 9:40 AM BST
..they even moved the kick off time
Report jimnast May 16, 2022 10:15 AM BST
Yes Rommel the semi finals on a neutral ground were much better once your team knew who they were playing the ground would be announced a few hours later it to was always something to look forward to ,and yes the kick of time .
Report jimnast May 16, 2022 10:21 AM BST
The extended replays are also missed including cup final replays ,spurs city and Chelsea Leeds were great cup final replays,
Report sparrow May 16, 2022 10:58 AM BST
Talking of replays how about the 1979 clash between Sheffield Wednesday and Arsenal which resulted in five games after the four replays.

Sheffield Wednesday v Arsenal – this Third Round FA Cup clash at a snowy Hillsborough in January 1979 was the first of a series of five games between Division Three side Wednesday and First Division Arsenal. At the time, Cup ties were played to the death, without penalty shoot-outs. It took nine hours of football and four replays, three of them going to extra time, to separate the two teams. The last three fixtures were played at Leicester’s Filbert Street.

Arsenal were unhappy about the state of the Hillsborough pitch, with their manager Terry Neill declaring it the worst he’d ever seen, and believing it was unsafe. However after making it through this gruelling tie, the Gunners went on to lift the Cup at Wembley in May with a dramatic 3-2 win over Manchester United. The Sheffield Wednesday side was managed by 1966 World Cup winner Jack Charlton, before his successful spell as Republic of Ireland manager, during which he took them to their first major tournaments, the 1988 European Championship and the World Cups of 1990 and 1994.
Report sparrow May 16, 2022 11:00 AM BST
Sheffield Wednesday’s Hillsborough stadium before the 1979 FA Cup tie with Arsenal
Report rommel May 16, 2022 11:24 AM BST
always thought the final replays were anti-climactic(but i bet not to the 2 sets of fans);other rounds.some replays went on and on but it only proved its worth,both teams were still busting a gut to get thru
Report rommel May 16, 2022 11:26 AM BST
i knew i had it in the back of my head somewhere about one tie that just went on and ffff on,you probs nailed it haha
Report rommel May 16, 2022 11:31 AM BST
haha thats great.....Sheffield Wednesday v Arsenal – this Third Round FA Cup clash at a snowy Hillsborough in January 1979 was the first of a series of five games between Division Three side Wednesday and First Division Arsenal. At the time, Cup ties were played to the death, without penalty shoot-outs. It took nine hours of football and four replays, three of them going to extra time, to separate the two teams. The last three fixtures were played at Leicester’s Filbert Street.
Report panglima May 16, 2022 12:49 PM BST
I went to one of those Arsenal, Sheff Wed replays, yes it was another draw Crazy

Can recall all the winners of the 60's & 70's & even 80's, after that the gloss seemed to disappear from the comp, I thought at the time it was an age thing but as the years have gone on its irrelevance in the football calendar is a sign of the times & no I could not tell you the last 10 winners of the FA Cup.
Report The Knight May 17, 2022 10:17 AM BST
So true what most are saying on here about Cup Final Day.

My first live and to date only, final was 1976 West Ham v Fulham.

Terrible anti-climax and I would have rather been at home lapping up all the TV stuff.

Mind you, it was a poor game and the West Ham yob element wrecked it for the rest of the fans when they tried to invade the pitch at the end and then climbed up into the old scoreboard and were urinating on the rest of us!

Players would not bring the cup to their own end (quite rightly) and that made sure the day was a poor experience. That and, of course, how Wembley was a dump!!
1975 Westham cup final
What’s was terrible about it
Was the fact Bobby was playing for Fulham
Report sparrow May 17, 2022 2:27 PM BST
What was terrible fattie was that I had booked a holiday many months before so missed it altogether.  Only found it we won 2 days later after buying a paper in New York. Plain
Report The Knight May 18, 2022 9:55 AM BST
..should have read 1975 final not 1976!!
Report The Knight May 18, 2022 9:59 AM BST
Actually, thinking about the 1975 final some more:

Does anyone know what record Fulham hold from the 1975 FA Cup competition?

At least, I think it is a record having read it somewhere obscure online. But I imagine it is a record given its nature.
Report jimnast May 18, 2022 2:00 PM BST
I remember going to the replay at Maine road the knight in the semi final Fulham scored in what was almost the last kick of the game on that basis I am going to guess all there games went to a replay,I do know it was the year Alan Taylor scored in every round.
Report sparrow May 18, 2022 2:28 PM BST
jimnast....Alan Taylor West Ham 1975
Report penzance May 18, 2022 2:31 PM BST
Drawn away every round?
Report lovegod May 18, 2022 4:20 PM BST
The Fulham question, was it they never played outside London?
Report lovegod May 18, 2022 4:21 PM BST
Oops just seen Gymnasts post so rules my answer out.
Report jimnast May 18, 2022 5:17 PM BST
That’s Right sparrow did he sign from Rochdale ?
Report sparrow May 18, 2022 6:13 PM BST
He did jimnast for £40,000 which was cheapish even then as I remember.
Report sparrow May 18, 2022 6:17 PM BST
Report The Knight May 18, 2022 6:59 PM BST
The answer to my question is that no team from the top 2 divisions of English football ever played as many games in getting through to the final. Replays and second replays etc.

I don't know for sure this is correct but looking at their path to the final it feels like it must be.

As for West Ham, I went to the semi final at Villa Park when they drew nil nil with Ipswich. Was at the Holt end and experienced what I think was one of the primary causes of the Hillsborough tragedy 13 years later.

Can't post about it though  as would be slaughtered for my views. Pity though nobody in authority has ever had the sense to see what can happen with all ticket matches and then some illegal bit of entreneurship...and I don't mean hookey tickets either.
Report sparrow May 18, 2022 9:27 PM BST
The Knight...... Arsenal played 11 games to reach the 1978/ 1979 season Cup Final where they beat Man Utd.  Is there any team that beat that record?

Arsenal entered the FA Cup in the third round proper, in which they were drawn to face Sheffield Wednesday.

6 January 1979Third round    Sheffield Wednesday    1–1    Arsenal    Sheffield
9 January 1979Third round replay    Arsenal    1–1    Sheffield Wednesday    London
15 January 1979Third round 2nd replay    Sheffield Wednesday    2–2 (aet)    Arsenal    Leicester
17 January 1979Third round 3rd replay    Arsenal    3–3 (aet)    Sheffield Wednesday    Leicester
22 January 1979Third round 4th replay    Sheffield Wednesday    0–2    Arsenal    Leicester
27 January 1979Fourth round    Arsenal    2–0    Notts County    London
26 February 1979Fifth round    Nottingham Forest    0–1    Arsenal    Nottingham
19 March 1979Sixth round    Southampton    1–1    Arsenal    Southampton
21 March 1979Sixth round replay    Arsenal    2–0    Southampton    London
28 April 1979Semi-Final    Arsenal    2–0    Wolverhampton Wanderers    Birmingham
12 May 1979Final    Arsenal    3–2    Manchester United    London
Report The Knight May 18, 2022 9:45 PM BST
sparrow, If you count the games you have posted for Arsenal in 1978/79, they played 10 games to reach final - 11 with the final.

In 1974/1975, Fulham played 11 games to reach final, with final they played 12 in total.

Hence, that's why I believe 11 to REACH the final is a record.
Report sparrow May 18, 2022 9:58 PM BST
Oh right, Knight.  I never knew Fulham played so many that year despite playing my own team West Ham in the Final. And yet Arsenal played 5 in the 3rd round alone!
Report The Knight May 18, 2022 10:13 PM BST
sparrow, do u remember the 1/4 final in West Ham's 1974/75 cup win?

At Arsenal on the worst pitch I have ever seen in terms of how a day's torrential rain meant it was mostly waterlogged.

How it was allowed to go on was a major surprise. Today, well it would be unthinkable!

Anyway, Hammers won 2-0 and one of the goals was wholly down to the ball simply being almost completely stopped by the rain-sodden pitch. A great afternoon, though, with my Dad getting soaked to and from where we parked some distance from the ground.

Actually, one day soon I will post on here how I ended up with a ticket to the final despite missing out on the various conventional methods - programme ballots etc etc. Given how gold-dust FA Cup final tickets were back then, the way I got one shows how the world has changed so much in the past forty years and more...I think you will love the little story!
Report sparrow May 18, 2022 10:34 PM BST
As I said earlier Knight it was very annoying for me that year having already booked a holiday to America many months before. I did see the semi-final against Ipswich who were a top side in those days at Villa Park but was unable to see the replay as I now lived and worked in Yorkshire. That year was all about Alan Taylor though.
Report mecca May 18, 2022 11:13 PM BST
I was at that semi.. Arsenal-Wolves at Villa Park..
Report jimnast May 19, 2022 7:42 AM BST
Anyone have an idea to my 741 16th may question
Report The Knight May 19, 2022 10:45 AM BST
Thinking about it some more, I can't see any harm in saying what I saw go wrong at Villa Park on the Holt End when West Ham played Ipswich for the 1975 semi-final.

A terrible crush of West Ham supporters developed at the Holt End about 30 minutes before kick off. I was at the front half-way down where the terrace used to split into two. I, and others, were crushed against the terrace-long crash barrier but my dad who was behind me took some of the load through bracing his arms and protecting me. Anyway, ten minutes into the game it became too much and a lot of us, including Dad and I, clambered underneath the barrier and jumped down the small drop onto the pathway that split the terrace into two.

We then left the ground but not before my dad berated a police sergeant about the crush. It was a different world back then and the sergeant openly told us that the problem had been caused by some turn-style operatives accepting £1 to let ticket-less people into the ground. They were simply clicking people through above the capacity allowed. The police realised this and stopped it but the damage had already been done.

Had the barriers given way that day, many would have been killed and it has long led me to wonder if the same thing happened at Hillsborough in 1988?
Report sparrow May 19, 2022 11:20 AM BST
Although I was at that game Knight I can't seem to remember anything about that incident. Looking back I never had a ticket myself and bought one in the street close to Villa Park from a tout.
Report The Knight May 19, 2022 12:14 PM BST
I ended up with a ticket for the final because on the Monday prior to the match, my mum and her neighbor took the bus up to Upton Park and went in the general office to complain about the unfairness of ticket allocation.

It was the neighbor's idea actually. Her son and his friend, who were both three years older than me, had gone to almost every West Ham game home and away that season. I, too, had been to most of the home matches and a fair sprinkling of the aways with the two aforementioned lads.

Hence, on that Monday the neighbor and my mum went to the general office armed with a big bag of all the programmes from the games we had been to. They protested that it was unfair how young lads like us, such loyal supporters, were all missing out on tickets having been unsuccessful in the various ballots. The general manager in the office sympathised and said he would see what he could do, asking for our home addresses just in case.

Later that day, he turned up at both houses with a ticket for each of the three of us! And, he would not accept any money for them saying they were with 'the compliments of the club'. So, upon arriving home from school that afternoon I found myself with a FA Cup Final ticket.

Trouble was, I was on the very cusp of tipping over away from being a football fan and into the worlds of horse and dog racing!! So, I wan't that bothered about going to the final - which might help explain why I found it an anti-climax. I never told my dear old mum that, though!!

My god, it really was a different world back then!
Report sparrow May 19, 2022 12:27 PM BST
Good to hear that the club sorted the matter out for your family, Knight. That ticket I bought cost a much inflated £23 a lot of money in 1975.
Report jimnast May 19, 2022 7:45 PM BST
They were £25 in 1976
Report sparrow May 19, 2022 7:57 PM BST
Cheapest part of the ground, jimnast?
Report sparrow May 19, 2022 8:00 PM BST
I was only earning around £30 a week in 1975.
Report sparrow May 19, 2022 8:02 PM BST
£23 in 1975 would be worth £255 in 2021.
Report jimnast May 19, 2022 10:20 PM BST
We were opposite the tunnel end in 76 sparrow I think face value was around £3 but some fans would sell for a pony touts I guess would be more ,77 was against Liverpool whilst I don’t really remember what the market price was it would be reasonable to think they would be quite a bit more especially as Liverpool were going for the proper  treble .
Report jimnast May 19, 2022 10:23 PM BST
We also played Liverpool at Wembley in the charity shield in 77 a Certain Scotsman made his Liverpool debut in an incredibly boring goalless draw.
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