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plying on a ploughed field arsenal stoke 1970s ffs i wouldnt send pigs out on that
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Report morpteh mackem September 14, 2021 6:20 PM BST
lol, just flicked over, and highbury was always one of the better surfaces
Report FOYLESWAR September 14, 2021 6:25 PM BST
as kids in the early 70s we played on worse than that but for a pro game those pitches were rank in those days
Report sparrow September 14, 2021 6:37 PM BST
The amusing part of it is that we thought nothing of it at the time and now everyone expresses shock and horror.Laugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 14, 2021 6:40 PM BST
Ball was never on ground that long
for it to make much of a difference.
Report FOYLESWAR September 14, 2021 6:46 PM BST
that arsenal game the ball never bounced when it was passed just stopped dead !Laugh
Report Blackrock September 14, 2021 7:08 PM BST
Interesting how honest and forthright Charlie George was in the after match interview. Players are much better coached these days regarding media. He as good as said he couldn't give a monkeys how Arsenal were doing as all he wanted was a transfer away from the club. Joined Derby County if memory serves.
Report Analyst September 14, 2021 11:42 PM BST
Highbury had undersoil heating too in the 1970s

Nearly all pitches were muddy in the centre and in the boxes by mid November till early April - Baseball ground was 90% mud at times.

Hybrid grass has made a complete difference and top clubs sometimes completely relay their pitches. Reserve games and under 21 games are generally played elsewhere too to save the main pitch.
Report brentford September 15, 2021 5:53 PM BST
Anfield I seem to remember being decent most of the time as it had to be for their style of football even before modern techniques...Old Trafford was usually abysmal not helped by playing Rugby League on it,

Only really Forest and Liverpool that true passing teams in the early 1980's to my recollection...maybe Spurs ?
Report morpteh mackem September 15, 2021 6:48 PM BST
alec stock on now, proper manager
Report morpteh mackem September 15, 2021 6:49 PM BST

Sep 15, 2021 -- 11:53AM, brentford wrote:


Anfield I seem to remember being decent most of the time as it had to be for their style of football even before modern techniques...Old Trafford was usually abysmal not helped by playing Rugby League on it,Only really Forest and Liverpool that true passing teams in the early 1980's to my recollection...maybe Spurs ?


ipswich ?

Report brentford September 15, 2021 7:09 PM BST
yep, that's a very fair shout MM, the Dutch influence of Muhren and Thijssen and some quality players as well in that squad...
Report SlippyBlue September 15, 2021 7:38 PM BST
I can remember being at Selhurst for us v P.N.E. in 1979 and you could hardly see the grass for mud. Players now would just look at the state of of it and just laugh I'm sure.
Report sparrow September 15, 2021 8:12 PM BST
morpteh mackem 15 Sep 21 17:48 
alec stock on now, proper manager






I remember Alec at Leyton Orient in the 1950s.
As you say morpteh a proper manager.
Report morpteh mackem September 15, 2021 8:18 PM BST

Sep 15, 2021 -- 2:12PM, sparrow wrote:


morpteh mackem 15 Sep 21 17:48

Report morpteh mackem September 15, 2021 8:18 PM BST
never knew he ( stock ) managed romaShocked
Report sparrow September 15, 2021 8:31 PM BST
Managerial Statistics
Team     From     To     Record
G     W     D     L     Win %
Yeovil Town     February 1946     September 1949     153     80     32     41     52.29
Leyton Orient     September 1949     June 1959     464     181     95     188     39.01
Roma     August 1957     May 1958     34     12     12     10     35.29
Queens Park Rangers     June 1959     August 1968     459     219     106     134     47.71
Luton Town     August 1968     June 1972     178     75     57     46     42.13
Fulham     July 1972     July 1976     220     75     73     72     34.09
Queens Park Rangers (caretaker)     March 1978     May 1978     11     7     2     2     63.64
Bournemouth     January 1979     December 1980     99     30     31     38     30.30
Total     1,618     679     408     531     41.97


Alec Stock was born in Peasedown St John, Somerset, and played as an inside-forward for Charlton Athletic and Queens Park Rangers before the Second World War and guested for several other clubs during the hostilities. He joined Yeovil Town in 1946.

He came to prominence as the player/manager of Yeovil Town during a historic FA Cup run in 1949. They had thrilling victories over Bury and Sunderland, before losing to Manchester United in the fifth round. He later managed Leyton Orient (1949–1959), AS Roma, Queens Park Rangers (1959–1965) (general manager 1965–1968), Luton Town (1968–1972), Fulham (1972–1976) and Bournemouth (1979–1980). He was also the assistant manager of Arsenal for 53 days during the 1955–56 season and was a director of Queens Park Rangers (1977–1979). He was asked to manage the Third Division South team against the North in 1955–56.

It was perhaps Stock's time as manager of Queens Park Rangers where he is most fondly remembered. It was during his spell in the 1960s that coincided with the development of the club with chairman Jim Gregory. The team enjoyed unprecedented success in 1967 and 1968 winning consecutive promotions with the club reaching the First Division for the first time and becoming the first Third Division team to win the Football League Cup in 1967 beating then First Division West Bromwich Albion 3–2 in a come from behind win. Stock had a focus on youth bringing many of the team through the club's youth system (including Frank Sibley, Tony Hazell, Roger Morgan, Ian Morgan and Mick Leach) as well as blending characters such as Rodney Marsh and Mark Lazarus into the set up.

With internal pressures mounting in the club following the 1967–68 season however, Stock was absent for three months, suffering from asthma.[1] In his book A Little Thing Called Pride Stock tells how Jim Gregory sacked him in 1968 for being ill, just as he thought he was about to return to the helm and save Rangers from relegation.[2] He later had success with Luton Town who he helped to promotion from the Third Division and also with Fulham when he led them to the 1975 FA Cup Final. He briefly returned to be a Director at Queens Park Rangers in the 1977/8 season.

Ron Manager, a character in BBC comedy sketch show The Fast Show is based on Stock, told by George Best in his autobiography. This was also confirmed by comedy actor Paul Whitehouse, who played Ron Manager, in the documentary, Suits You Sir - The Inside Leg Of The Fast Show.
Report morpteh mackem September 15, 2021 8:37 PM BST
certainly would be out of place in todays game ( more's the pity )
Report sparrow September 15, 2021 8:46 PM BST
He would be amazed to see the changes in the game nowadays but he would cope alright.
Report morpteh mackem September 15, 2021 8:50 PM BST
like to think so
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 15, 2021 8:50 PM BST
Pitches would get tons of sand
dropped on em too.

Sometimes small areas were returfed
and it started coming away during games.

One player  did a tutakamen
sand dance with a roll of turf
on his heed as a head dress.

Don't think cameras were there...
Report Coachbuster September 15, 2021 9:04 PM BST
Ipswich had a perfect pitch in the late 70s ,it was like a bowling green even in the middle of winter ...it would be up to PL standard in 2021

Nottingham Forest and a host of others were diabolical, looking at footage on you tube if thats anything to go by
Report loui September 17, 2021 11:07 PM BST
The groundsmen must have been bang on the piss with the players back then, especially Derby's. God knows what he was doing all week
Report elisjohn September 28, 2021 12:37 PM BST
spurs v man utd now 1979, spurs manager having a go at glenn hoddle ,Grin
Report elisjohn October 4, 2021 12:35 PM BST
palace v mboro now in 1979, god sake the tackles were flying in those days, honestly the sterlings, progbas etc are lucky they are  playing these days , you really had to jump to avoid breaking your leg then
Report elisjohn October 4, 2021 12:42 PM BST
mark lawrenson was a top attacking midfield player for brighton, never knew that , always thought of him as a sweeper, defender
Report elisjohn October 4, 2021 12:51 PM BST
now on,  goals of the decade , peters 1969, g graham 1970, j hollins 71, posse 72, d rogers 73,k weller 74,j greenhoff 75,brooking76, d hales 77, k berchin 78 and tony currie79

i recall them all, i think the winner will be keith wellers ,  the winner can go to watch england v spain in march 1979Laugh

anyone actually know which goal was the winner?
Report Blackrock October 5, 2021 6:55 PM BST
Good memory.

1st Keith Weller
2nd Tony Currie
3rd Keith Bertschin

Winning entry was Rosemary Easton.Grin
Report The Dragon October 5, 2021 7:26 PM BST
great to watch....the days of real football
Report elisjohn October 5, 2021 10:42 PM BST
cheers blackrock,  Grin
Report elisjohn October 5, 2021 10:47 PM BST
it wasnt on itv, but i still think the best match i ever saw was on bbc in 75 , man utd 3 sunderland 2, it had the lot ,   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwKatX8Wswo
Report morpteh mackem October 6, 2021 2:41 PM BST

Oct 5, 2021 -- 4:47PM, elisjohn wrote:


it wasnt on itv, but i still think the best match i ever saw was on bbc in 75 , man utd 3 sunderland 2, it had the lot ,

Report lfc1971 October 6, 2021 10:50 PM BST
Keith Weller was the first English player to wear tights in winter , they were white
super player .
Report Blackrock October 7, 2021 4:36 PM BST
Used to go to Millwall when Arsenal were away, as a kid.

Keith Weller was indeed a star player and Derek Posse was the main scorer. Alex Stepney in goal followed by Bryan King shortly after. The legend that was Harry Cripps played left back.
Report brentford October 14, 2021 6:05 PM BST
was watching a couple of episodes on bt sport..

the second featured game was a div 2 game between Barnsley and Wolves (Andy Gray era) showing the profile of the 2nd tier at that time..

they also gave out the highest and lowest attendances of the day ...just 26,000 and something topped the chart that day at Man City though might have been a few big teams away that week..

they also gave the number of hospitalisations and arrests in the M'boro / Newcastle game in a very matter of fact way  before mentioning that Kevin Keegan had scored in a 1-1 draw..
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