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The Dragon
28 Aug 21 14:26
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Home win for me  good price too!!!
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Report gibmark August 28, 2021 3:57 PM BST
too close to call , tight game imo ,unders for me
Report gibmark August 28, 2021 4:00 PM BST
u2.5g @1.9 SadHappy
Report everyone's a winner August 28, 2021 4:24 PM BST
i'm on a home win too
Report SirNorbertClarke August 28, 2021 4:34 PM BST
Lay of Liverpool.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 28, 2021 4:36 PM BST
Over 1.5 goals
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 5:00 PM BST
Think it'll be a tight game. 1-1 FT.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! August 28, 2021 5:02 PM BST
Draw
definetly

and then tomorrow Spurs win to go
TOP

August CHAMPIONS

Shocked
Report The Dragon August 28, 2021 5:05 PM BST
LFC will fick the russian money men

homw win 3-0
Report Des Pond August 28, 2021 5:32 PM BST
1-1 for me, with cover on 2-1 Liverpool. I'm still not convinced that Chelsea are as good as the pundits make out. A partially fit Van Dijk handles Lukaku well enough, imo. Fully fit, Van Dijk would have him in his pocket.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! August 28, 2021 5:59 PM BST
0-1

Shocked
Report rommel August 28, 2021 6:07 PM BST
loocackoo you are sh********** son
Report rommel August 28, 2021 6:09 PM BST
you fffffffffffffffffff binman b******* elliot
Report SirNorbertClarke August 28, 2021 6:09 PM BST
Cashed out my lay of Liverpool and u1.5 goals. Can relax and enjoy the game Grin
Report SirNorbertClarke August 28, 2021 6:10 PM BST
over 1.5
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:13 PM BST
Pool in trouble here. Chelsea looking stronger.  Firmino off for Jota.
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:17 PM BST
Crikey what a goalmouth scramble.
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:18 PM BST
Red card Chelsea wtf.
Report SlippyBlue August 28, 2021 6:18 PM BST
Red card as well Shocked
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:19 PM BST
1-1 Sahah.
Report tobermory August 28, 2021 6:25 PM BST
Thought there had been a law change re pen and a sending off, so that you just got the pen

Anyone explain
Report The Dragon August 28, 2021 6:28 PM BST
ynwa
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:29 PM BST
yawn
Report The Dragon August 28, 2021 6:29 PM BST
defo pen
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:30 PM BST
Yeah, it was the correct decision in hindsight.
Report The Dragon August 28, 2021 6:31 PM BST
what you yawning foe sofa?
Report par August 28, 2021 6:31 PM BST
but the ref never made it. He run over, looked at a still frame for a second and trotted away brandishing a red card. His decision was made before he left the park.
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:32 PM BST

Aug 28, 2021 -- 12:31PM, The Dragon wrote:


what you yawning foe sofa?


Didn't get a great sleep, Dragon.

Report rommel August 28, 2021 6:33 PM BST

Aug 28, 2021 -- 12:13PM, sofaking wrote:


Pool in trouble here. Chelsea looking stronger.

Report The Dragon August 28, 2021 6:33 PM BST
are you watching the same game par???
Report tobermory August 28, 2021 6:33 PM BST
It's a pen but why send the guy off too. Awful rule
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:34 PM BST
Yeah, it's harsh that he got punished twice for his crime.
Report Johnny.B August 28, 2021 6:36 PM BST
If the handball was on purpose it's a red
If not on purpose it's caution a yellow card
Report everyone's a winner August 28, 2021 6:37 PM BST
yes there was some double jeopardy thing wasn't there, so you shouldn't get both a penalty and a sending off? why is that not applicable here?
Report jackkat August 28, 2021 6:37 PM BST
A gift of a pen for the job dodgers if the ref goes over and looks at the screen at least have a proper look he gave the decision miles away from the screen
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:37 PM BST
It looked kind of intentional though. He sort of swept the ball away with his arm.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! August 28, 2021 6:38 PM BST
SPECSAVERS

LaughLaughLaugh
Report brentford August 28, 2021 6:38 PM BST
only applies to the 'professional foul' scenario I guess...must admit I hadn't realised that was still a straight red
Report tobermory August 28, 2021 6:38 PM BST

Aug 28, 2021 -- 12:36PM, Johnny.B wrote:


If the handball was on purpose it's a redIf not on purpose it's caution a yellow card


If it's not on purpose it can't be handball at all. No yellow, no pen or anything.

Report smartpunter August 28, 2021 6:39 PM BST
definitely  red card sending off.(sofaking)
Report tobermory August 28, 2021 6:40 PM BST

Aug 28, 2021 -- 12:38PM, brentford wrote:


only applies to the 'professional foul' scenario I guess...must admit I hadn't realised that was still a straight red


Surely handball on the line is a professional foul? So if James hacks someone down going in on goal he gets a yellow, but instinctive handball it's a red.

Report brentford August 28, 2021 6:41 PM BST
well the accepted term in my era referred to tackles specifically
Report rommel August 28, 2021 6:42 PM BST

Aug 28, 2021 -- 12:37PM, jackkat wrote:


A gift of a pen for the job dodgers if the ref goes over and looks at the screen at least have a proper look he gave the decision miles away from the screen


wouldnt fkn dodge you pal,put my foot right in yoo  ya fkn jobbie,having **** on yer shoe is lucky

Report sofaking August 28, 2021 6:53 PM BST
Stay classy rommel. Silly
Report rommel August 28, 2021 6:56 PM BST
haha what you mean stay?
Report par August 28, 2021 7:04 PM BST
The Dragon,

what was wrong with what i said,

how long did he spend in front of the tv screen ?

His mind was made up on what he heard in his ears.

No one could decide from the evidence he looked at , once.
Report par August 28, 2021 7:12 PM BST
it was a penalty though
Report SontaranStratagem August 28, 2021 7:13 PM BST
Liverpool not taking advantage with the extra man
Report SirNorbertClarke August 28, 2021 7:15 PM BST
10 man Chelsea are a tough nut to crack.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! August 28, 2021 7:25 PM BST
Draw told ya

COYS
win tomorrow and we are top of the EPL

Devil
Report rommel August 28, 2021 7:26 PM BST
great def display yep,wd chels
Report SirNorbertClarke August 28, 2021 7:27 PM BST
WD Chelsea. Klopp & Liverpool will rightly be disappointed. 2 points dropped.
Report SlippyBlue August 28, 2021 7:29 PM BST
Fair play to Chelsea there, good battling performance and worthy of their point.
Report Des Pond August 28, 2021 7:31 PM BST
Impressive show of discipline, workrate and time-wasting from Chelsea. Made the occasional foray towards Liverpool goal as well. Tuchel will be well pleased with that.
Report rommel August 28, 2021 7:31 PM BST
tight outfit chels,vvd needs a bit more time,still good start,again w laye chels
Report sofaking August 28, 2021 7:32 PM BST

Aug 28, 2021 -- 1:25PM, ImSoLuckyLucky! wrote:


Draw told yaCOYSwin tomorrow and we are top of the EPL


Spurs at home to Watford is definitely not a guaranteed 3 points.  Wouldn't be surprised by a draw.

Report rommel August 28, 2021 7:32 PM BST
w played*
Report loui August 29, 2021 12:59 PM BST
From the camera angle slightly behind the goal you can see his arm move to scoop the ball out, so there was intention there, instinctively really, but a law that needs to be cleared up.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 29, 2021 1:42 PM BST
They call time wasting game management nowadays.
Report dr . atkins August 29, 2021 2:33 PM BST
chelsea were the better side we are in no doubt
Report canny danny August 29, 2021 3:07 PM BST
Homophobic chants again from self
proclaimed best fans.
Report rothko August 29, 2021 6:52 PM BST
what were they chanting?
Report par August 30, 2021 5:59 PM BST
I heard the lads on talksport talk about the ref glancing at a still frame n turning round to give his decision. They found that strange as well. Ref didnt need to look, He was going with var opinion.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 30, 2021 11:04 PM BST
Someone asked what the Liverpool fans were chanting.

Here's a report;

https://liverpooloffside.sbnation.com/liverpool-fc-news-coverage/2021/8/29/22646946/liverpool-fc-condemn-homophobic-chanting-again-chelsea-lgbt

(I posted this link earlier but it was removed. I can only surmise someone doesn't like the spotlight on being shone on this homophobic behaviour)
Report canny danny August 30, 2021 11:10 PM BST
Quote from John Aldridge
Liverpools chances of winning game decreased after Chelsea went down to 10 men
Meanwhile Garth Crook includes vvd in his
Team of the week
Outstanding against 10 men
The way he smoked that cigar in the second half was pure class!
Report thelatarps August 31, 2021 11:40 AM BST
There seems to be a lot of love for chelsea in the mainstream media
Many seem to think they are looking good for the title..

A couple of things..

Under Tuchel they managed 25 goals in 19 epl games last season
Including the 3 games this season Tuchel has managed to score 3 goals or more on just two occasions. Both against Palace. Once when the Eagles went into familiar 'we have nothing left to play for cos we are staying up' mode. The other was Vieiras first game in charge..

Tuchel has almost universally played a back 5. The only team I remember winning the epl with a back 5 is Conte's chelsea in 2017. Conte had no european football to worry him.
Conte had a forward line of  Costa (20 goals), Hazard (16 goals), plus either Pedro or Willian (16 goals between them).
Tuchel has Lukaku and on saturdays evidence he is going with Mount and Havertz..

I am not entirely convinced that Lukaku is the answer. On past records in the epl he should be good for a goal every two games but there were flashbacks in the liv game to his time leading the line at Utd. Where his control wasnt good enough and he missed open goals.
The support he is going to get is underwhelming.
Mount is a nice player but his goal return in two seasons at chels is 7 and 6 respectively.
Havertz got 4 last year and its noticable that when chels went down to ten the other day he was the one that got the shepherds crook.
There is quite a bench of forwards at the bridge.
But Werner looks to be a ball over the top merchant, michael owen style, without the finishing ability. Ziyich is lightweight and i understand captain america's nickname is Pull-a-sicky.

The form in the EPL is that the highest scorers more often than not end up as champions.
So there is going to be a lot of pressure on this set of forwards to come up with the goods.
Eeking out an early season point at anfield is one thing.
But scoring enough goals against the middle ranked epl clubs is going to be an entirely different matter.
Lets not forget that West Brom went to the bridge last year and came away with a 5-2 win.
Report PorcupineorPineapple August 31, 2021 3:27 PM BST
I think the hype over Lukaku is bordering on ridiculous. Done well in an average Serie A but disappointed at Utd. All suddenly forgotten.


As for Chelsea, the one thing they are under Tuchel is organised. They're proper challengers as he has a good system in place and the players are doing their jobs. They also have an excellent midfield. Kovacic just looks a brilliant player to me and isn't really a first teamer for them. Ridiculous. That's why saturday was a struggle. Going down to ten men, especially just before half time just made their mind up to sit in, be a shell and counter when possible. But first things first; don't concede. We just found it incredibly hard to break them down then. A good team doing a very good job.

Ref didn't help though. Sounds daft after they had a man perhaps harshly sent off. But I read in the second half they weren't penalised for a foul after twenty odd challenges while we had the whistle blown on us around 17 times or so in the second half. Real case of the ref thinking he's wronged them and trying to even it up a bit.
Report The Dragon August 31, 2021 3:36 PM BST
from memory chlsea only won 7 of their lasr prem games last season- so jury defo out on them but time will tell. on the upside they did have a good run in the champions leagueWink
Report The Dragon August 31, 2021 3:37 PM BST
sorry 7 out 14
Report rothko August 31, 2021 8:45 PM BST
you would have to be very poor manager not to be there challenging right to the end with that squad
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