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howard
22 Jul 21 21:47
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Report Tiger Tiger July 22, 2021 11:27 PM BST
A bit like when Man U wanted Shearer a few years ago....he said NO........twice.
Report G Hall July 23, 2021 12:26 AM BST
Shearer was better than Kane
Report inner city sumo July 23, 2021 7:44 AM BST
They don't need to pay Kane 400k pw, he'd join on the same terms he's on at Spuds, he'd probably accept a paycut to join City.
Report Angoose July 23, 2021 9:37 AM BST
City are prepared to offer one of Brazilian forward Gabriel Jesus, 24, Algeria captain Riyad Mahrez, 30, Portugal midfielder Bernardo Silva, 26, or England attacker Raheem Sterling, 26, as part of a deal to tempt Spurs into selling the England captain.
Report Aspro July 23, 2021 10:25 AM BST
Betfair sportsbook have taken down the market. Someone took a score at 1.14 on the exchange a short while ago only to see 1.6 available 5 minutes later. That must feel sick. Local rumours suggest his wife doesn't want to move, but the journey is only 3 hours so that shouldn't present a major problem either. The names Angoose has mentioned will not be coming to Spurs so I would take that with a pinch of salt.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 23, 2021 11:22 AM BST
I thought he wanted to go to
Manchester, but err, not this Manchester.



Too far north often used to leverage
a few dollars more
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk July 23, 2021 12:05 PM BST
Kane and Sterling will be falling over themselves to stay play for Man City
Report Angoose July 23, 2021 12:07 PM BST
Tottenham forward Son Heung-min has signed a new four-year contract keeping him at the club until 2025.

Son, 29, has scored 107 goals in 280 appearances for the club since joining from Bayer Leverkusen in 2015.

He has been capped 93 times by South Korea, scoring 27 goals and appearing at two World Cups.

"There was no decision. It was easy. I'm so happy to be here and will be so glad to see the fans again soon," he said.

"It was already a big honour to play here for six years. The club have showed me massive, massive respect and obviously I'm very happy to be here."
Report lurka July 23, 2021 12:49 PM BST
What City player in their right mind would move to Spurs? They'd have to be getting well paid to do it and it will be City paying them, not Spurs. Money is the only thing that can make Spurs attractive to a City player. There are plenty of other clubs with CL football who'd be more attractive otherwise. City mightn't be willing to sell to some of them but they'd prob get a better deal for all of them than they'll get from Spurs.

But these journos always paint it as if it's just a case of City saying 'you're going to Spurs'. The player has to be willing to go.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 23, 2021 12:57 PM BST
Must be some happy to go to spurs
to get a game.

Not all players happy sitting on bench

A year or two at spurs, with transfer
bonus, followed by another move
and transfer bonus.

All while shortfall in wages made up by City.




Plenty happy to sit on bench, play golf
Report macarony July 23, 2021 1:24 PM BST
I hope he is PAYE and as pay his full 45% in tax
Report lurka July 23, 2021 2:01 PM BST
None of them have to go to Spurs to get a game. 3 of the 4 started the CL final and are established regulars. The other one shouldn't be attractive to Spurs as a Kane replacement.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 23, 2021 2:04 PM BST
Was a more general comment, but
If kanes going one way, somebody
is losing a start for a seat on bench.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 23, 2021 2:06 PM BST
Continuing on same wages with 2 x15%
transfer fees will appeal to
agent as well as player.
Report The Dragon July 23, 2021 2:32 PM BST
50% tax for most of it
Report Aspro July 23, 2021 2:36 PM BST
Didn't think we had a 50% tax Dragon Confused
Report The Dragon July 23, 2021 2:39 PM BST
thought it was 50 per cent over 150k or did that change?
Report sparrow July 23, 2021 2:40 PM BST
macarony 23 Jul 21 12:24 
I hope he is PAYE and as pay his full 45% in tax







PAYE is just for ordinary working people the wealthier classes pay an accountant to avoid paying their fair share.
Report The Dragon July 23, 2021 2:45 PM BST
true sparrow  levy will be chuffed if they get 160m
Report sparrow July 23, 2021 2:46 PM BST
Tax Band    Taxable Income in England, Wales and Northern Ireland    Tax Rate
Personal allowance    £0 - £12,570    0%
Basic rate    £12,571 - £37,700    20%
Higher rate    £37,701 - £150,000    40%
Additional rate    Over £150,000    45%
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 23, 2021 2:47 PM BST
Stick it into a pension

Deduct agents fees

House in a trust fund

Swiss Bank account for dog

Jobsagoodun, triffic
Report The Dragon July 23, 2021 2:52 PM BST
thans for clarifying sparrow the tories must have reduced it as i am sure the higher rate used to be 50per cent
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 23, 2021 2:57 PM BST
50p was brought in in 2010, back
down to 45 in 2013
Report sparrow July 23, 2021 2:58 PM BST
It was dragon, but I think the Coalition government under Cameron reduced it. I remember this because the Liberals argued that the basic rate threshold should increase to reduce the tax burden for the lower paid and it took me completely out of tax for the first time, although by then I was on a pension.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! July 23, 2021 3:12 PM BST
His image rites will be going offshore with
NO tax payable

Easy peasy
Like Messi

Grin
Report The Dragon July 23, 2021 3:14 PM BST
thanks sparrow must be nice to not pay tax im one ot the 45 per cent payers ---daylight thieveryDevil
Report sparrow July 23, 2021 3:45 PM BST
I only avoided the tax for 1 year dragon as the state pension arrived for me the year after to be put me back paying again. Sad
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 23, 2021 3:51 PM BST
43% of adult brits pay zero
income tax
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 23, 2021 3:52 PM BST
Of course other taxes have risen
to take up the shortfall.
Report sparrow July 23, 2021 4:02 PM BST
If only everyone paid tax as the ordinary working man has to then this country would never have a National debt and a struggling health service.
Report macarony July 23, 2021 4:02 PM BST
If Man city is going to be his employer then surely he as to be an employee of theres therefor he can't claim to be self employedso he must be taxed at 45%
Report sparrow July 23, 2021 4:06 PM BST
246 footballers now under investigation – almost equivalent to ten Premier League squads


HMRC investigations of footballers have almost trebled from 87 to 246 in just the last year* as the taxman targets ‘image rights’ deals that it believes are being used to avoid tax, our research shows.

The number of players under investigation is now almost equivalent to ten 25-man Premier League squads.

HMRC is targeting what it sees as over-aggressive use of ‘image rights’ deals, in which players are paid additional money on top of their salary for use of their image by the team in advertising and endorsements. This money is commonly paid to a company set up by the player for this purpose and is only taxed at the 19% corporation tax rate, rather than the 45% income tax rate paid by high earners.

HMRC believes many of these deals amount to tax avoidance, particularly in cases where players who are not household names are paid a significant percentage of their compensation in image rights payments. In some cases image rights companies are based offshore, reducing tax paid even further.

Elliot Buss, partner at our Newport office says: “HMRC believes that lots of lesser-known footballers are effectively avoiding tax by getting paid huge sums for image rights that HMRC views as overpriced.”

“The image rights of the likes of Paul Pogba and Mohamed Salah are undoubtedly worth millions of pounds a year. However, if you are second-choice left back in the Championship getting paid a great deal in image rights payments, then this is likely to trigger an investigation by the taxman. You may have to make a robust argument to HMRC to show how the value of the image rights has been arrived at.
Report The Dragon July 23, 2021 4:50 PM BST
so many ways for the rich to avoid    sooooooo annoyingDevilDevil
Report Aspro July 23, 2021 4:53 PM BST
Will get interesting for the self-employed when cash disappears. It can't be far away now.
Report macarony July 23, 2021 5:13 PM BST
Most of the presenters on the BBC claim to be self employed
Report n88uk July 24, 2021 9:08 AM BST
No-one is paying 160m.

400k a week is quite poor for such a transfer. Kane must regret signing such a long contract, he'd be able to demand £1m+ a week otherwise.
Report Angoose July 24, 2021 11:15 AM BST
Manchester City say reports they have agreed a £160m deal for Tottenham striker Harry Kane are nonsense. (Manchester Evening News)

Tottenham maintain they have no intention of selling the 27-year-old England captain this summer. (Football London)

Although Kane is increasingly confident Tottenham are willing to let him move on. (Times)

Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Kane of £350,000 a week and are willing to bid as much as £120m. (Star)

The summer rumour mill continues .......
Report Aspro July 24, 2021 11:21 AM BST
Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Kane of £350,000 a week and are willing to bid as much as £120m

This one appears nearer the mark so, if true, I say... ffs Levy, take it!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 24, 2021 12:27 PM BST
Cut the agents out, let the gossip
columnists do the deal.

When does ole step in? 105 Mill?
Report RioGrande July 24, 2021 12:49 PM BST
160 million **** right off. kane is a pile of ****
Report sofaking July 24, 2021 4:40 PM BST

Jul 24, 2021 -- 5:21AM, Aspro wrote:


Manchester City have agreed personal terms with Kane of £350,000 a week and are willing to bid as much as £120mThis one appears nearer the mark so, if true, I say... ffs Levy, take it!


Yeah, he definitely should accept the 120m if offered. Most likely he'll accept it on deadline day and therefore will have an excuse to not spend the funds on new recruits. Angry

Report Capt__F July 30, 2021 10:26 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58032330
Report Giuseppe July 31, 2021 1:39 AM BST
how are Man City able to offer more money than Spurs in the era of FFP?

do Spurs have big debts?
Report sofaking July 31, 2021 2:53 AM BST

Jul 30, 2021 -- 7:39PM, Giuseppe wrote:


how are Man City able to offer more money than Spurs in the era of FFP?do Spurs have big debts?


Man City are exempt from Financial Fair Play (probably bribed UEFA). Yes, Spurs have very large long-term debts due to new stadium.

Report ImSoLuckyLucky! July 31, 2021 11:08 AM BST
Citeh spending £100m on
Grealish
Thats a
LARF

Laugh
Report The Dragon July 31, 2021 2:11 PM BST
city are copying utd trying to buy sucess.... vile club
Report sofaking July 31, 2021 5:54 PM BST

Jul 31, 2021 -- 8:11AM, The Dragon wrote:


city are copying utd trying to buy sucess.... vile club


But City are traditionally a small and unsuccessful club being bankrolled by an oil-rich nation.   Man U (for the most part) generated their own funding by being a successful club.

Report sofaking July 31, 2021 5:56 PM BST
Man City would still be pottering around in the lower leagues had the billionaire A-rabs not bankrolled them. A vile little club indeed and I've zero respect for anything they've "achieved" since. Grin
Report howard July 31, 2021 6:12 PM BST
Last time they were in the 3rd tier and getting beat at York City the gates were best part of 40k ...yeah really small club without the oil.
Report Giuseppe July 31, 2021 7:05 PM BST
Utd should be able to spend big money because they have lots of glory hunter fans in Ireland, Norway, Asia etc.?
Report sofaking July 31, 2021 7:11 PM BST

Jul 31, 2021 -- 12:12PM, howard wrote:


Last time they were in the 3rd tier and getting beat at York City the gates were best part of 40k ...yeah really small club without the oil.


You a City fan, Howard?   Don't think there's one City fan on this whole forum besides "the mover" who rarely posts these days.

Report TOP3MAN July 31, 2021 8:25 PM BST

Jul 23, 2021 -- 10:02AM, sparrow wrote:


If only everyone paid tax as the ordinary working man has to then this country would never have a National debt and a struggling health service.


if everyone paid the tax that they should, then the tax rate would be lower for all. so when you hear that someone is avoiding tax, remember they're effectivley ribbing you

Report TOP3MAN July 31, 2021 8:29 PM BST
robbing
Report rothko July 31, 2021 10:16 PM BST
pep said city were skint Shocked

surely he doesnt lie LaughLaugh
Report n88uk July 31, 2021 11:59 PM BST

Jul 31, 2021 -- 1:05PM, Giuseppe wrote:


Utd should be able to spend big money because they have lots of glory hunter fans in Ireland, Norway, Asia etc.?


Utd's owners take money out of the club. They would have much more money to spend than they do with different owners even just operating at cost. City's owners of course pump many millions into the club.

Report tobermory August 1, 2021 12:10 AM BST
^
Only if the different owners were able to buy the club with their own money.

It costs 4 Billion,  so how realistic are these different owners ?

Either Saudi Arabia buy it or it would be another group borrowing to make the purchase, and paying off the interest with the revenue.
Report Giuseppe August 1, 2021 12:18 AM BST
n88 Utd have bigger revenues because of glory hunters
Report sofaking August 1, 2021 3:01 AM BST
If City are skint then Abu Dhabi must be skint. Shocked
Report n88uk August 1, 2021 8:27 AM BST
Well yer that's the problem now Tobes that the number of people who can afford to buy Utd and not be saddled with debt is real limited at this point. That wasn't true when the Glazers first bought though.
Report n88uk August 1, 2021 8:29 AM BST
It's also said that Utd are quite a bad buy for 4-5 billion that would be needed too. That any investor won't see a great return on it, which turns away anyone who thinks they could just make a quick profit on it anyway, leaving you with people who would buy it for other reasons and an even more limited list of buyers.
Report n88uk August 1, 2021 8:32 AM BST
I think it's Britain's richest man, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, who is a Man Utd fan, that basically says that they are way over priced and the returns would be terrible.
Report tobermory August 1, 2021 8:57 AM BST
Yeah that is correct.

I think most United fans don't consider this though, and imagine the Glazers are some sort of freak ownership, when their business plan is the only one that would make sense to most prospective buyers.

As Ratcliffe says it is poor value compared to other clubs.

A billionaire could buy Newcastle outright, spend £400M transforming the stadium, spend 3 summer transfer windows building one of the strongest squads in the world, and extra £100M a year on wages, and, after three years their total outlay would have been £1.5 Billion.

OR spend £4 billion on Man United and have what is there now.
Report rothko August 1, 2021 12:12 PM BST
Manchester City CAN'T afford to buy Harry Kane or Erling Haaland this summer, reveals Pep Guardiola... as he insists buying a Sergio Aguero replacement is 'IMPOSSIBLE' because they 'are NOT an exception' from clubs struggling financially due to Covid

Peps a liar
Report howard August 1, 2021 12:36 PM BST
York fan sofa Grin
Report sofaking August 1, 2021 4:38 PM BST

Aug 1, 2021 -- 6:36AM, howard wrote:


York fan sofa


Ok, good luck for the season. Happy

So if City sign Grealish it looks unlikely that they'll splash out for Kane as well.  Harry wants to play in the biggest games but did absolutely **** all when presented with such opportunities at Spurs (and England).  I hope he leaves this week as he clearly doesn't want to remain at Spurs.

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