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mesmerised
07 Jul 21 21:39
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it's either coming home or it's going to Rome, my head says Italy, and that's where my money's gone this tournament, but will be happy to lose it, this one and only timeCool
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Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B July 11, 2021 11:25 PM BST
Deptford

Appletown Blue had more chance of winning over the 385 at Catford!
Report wolf3011 July 11, 2021 11:25 PM BST

Jul 11, 2021 -- 5:23PM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:


wolfDon't cry son there's school tomorrow and you'll start wan kin soon.

Report starkeycars July 11, 2021 11:25 PM BST
Following England is like winning the lottery and then realising your have forgotten to out your numbers on Cry
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk July 11, 2021 11:25 PM BST
How is going for a 2nd goal a "gamble" ?
That just shows Southgate's psychology right there
Report roggrain July 11, 2021 11:25 PM BST
All players should be made to watch 2 hours of recordings of Alan Shearer taking penalties . No

****footing around with stutter steps and side footing. Hit the ball with pace at a target 3/4 feet

from junction of post and crossbar. Even if the goalie guesses right he aint stopping it.

As for Southgate's selection of penalty takers it beggars belief. Two players who had barely kicked

a ball and a 19 year old with no experience of such an enormous responsibility.

Having said that, Italy were no better with their penalty taking.

I'm 74 years old and I could do better!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 11, 2021 11:25 PM BST
Southgate can resign, but who takes over?

Need somebody better tactically,
But with same respect from all the players.

Probably needs to stay, and
learn to be a bit bolder.

We defended and lost, give the
attacking a go!
Report LoyalHoncho July 11, 2021 11:26 PM BST
Southgate fcked it.  1-0 and clearly in charge as Italy struggled and he should have gone for the jugular in the second half.  I've said it all month and I say it again - the guy is an idiot.  He's betrayed English football!
Report LoyalHoncho July 11, 2021 11:26 PM BST
Southgate fcked it.  1-0 and clearly in charge as Italy struggled and he should have gone for the jugular in the second half.  I've said it all month and I say it again - the guy is an idiot.  He's betrayed English football!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B July 11, 2021 11:26 PM BST
starkey

If I won the lottery I'd but the England team.  And if I could get FOUR numbers I'd buy Nth Macedonia too.
Report Blockfire July 11, 2021 11:26 PM BST
Wolf I remember you said Italy on his Poll like me.
Report TheBetterBettor July 11, 2021 11:26 PM BST
Report Geesyerdosh July 11, 2021 11:26 PM BST
Southgate is too nice a guy to be a winner. He doesn't have that steely nature when it matters.

All that fake roaring to the crowd 'look at me I'm a tiger' was just embarrassing.
Report scandanavian_haven July 11, 2021 11:27 PM BST
Lou is a classless numpty who's been embarrassing himself silly on here for weeks now
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B July 11, 2021 11:27 PM BST
wolf!



SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH

Aftertiming too!  PMSL

What a night.  "Thank you God"
Report wolf3011 July 11, 2021 11:28 PM BST
There is no aftertiming, you cant even recall who voted what on your cringeworthy poll where the whole forum ripped the p1ss out of you
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B July 11, 2021 11:28 PM BST
wolf

You'll be reported now.  Goodbye!
Report Blockfire July 11, 2021 11:28 PM BST
AWFUL POLL
Report Des Pond July 11, 2021 11:28 PM BST
It's ironic, after what happened in '96, that the more experienced players bottled it again. Surprised Southgate let that happen. Although maybe it was all part of his redemption song playbook. Devil
Report xmoneyx July 11, 2021 11:29 PM BST
scottish guy who tweeted he would get a tattoo of england flag on his forskin if england won
Report sofaking July 11, 2021 11:29 PM BST
Stop squabbling boys. Take it to PM.
Report wolf3011 July 11, 2021 11:29 PM BST

Jul 11, 2021 -- 5:23PM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:


wolfDon't cry son there's school tomorrow and you'll start wan kin soon.

Report wolf3011 July 11, 2021 11:29 PM BST
what a loon
Report johnnythebull July 11, 2021 11:29 PM BST
well if Manure have a pen to win the league in the last min of the last match they've got one overpaid striker who can miss on demand and have just paid a small fortune for another one who can't take them
Report wolf3011 July 11, 2021 11:30 PM BST

Jul 11, 2021 -- 5:26PM, Blockfire wrote:


Wolf I remember you said Italy on his Poll like me.


I did mate

Report Geesyerdosh July 11, 2021 11:30 PM BST
That's it lads let the tears flow, let all the pain out Laugh
Report posy July 11, 2021 11:33 PM BST
A truly pathetic approach to the match and the penalty shoot out by the manager ; there must have been millions of fans aghast at the delay in bringing on Grealish and also the decision to bring on Saint Marcus and the other bloke with no opportunity to get involved before taking their penalties. As for Saka he’s got the brain of an amoeba and should not have been given the opportunity. Saint Gareth has let the country down yet again.
Report Regbutler July 11, 2021 11:33 PM BST
Chielini on itv now...
Wish we had somebody of his experience and stature
Report starkeycars July 11, 2021 11:34 PM BST
Live from Italy ….

Allo, I'm-a Giuseppe
I got-a something special-a for you
Ready?
Uno, due, tre, quattro
When I was a boy
Just abouth the eighth-a grade
Mama used to say, "Don't stay out-a late
With the bad-a boys
Always shoot-a pool
Giuseppe going to flunk-a school!"
Boy, it make-a me sick
All the thing I gotta do
I can't-a get-a no kicks
Always got to follow rules
Boy, it make-a me sick
Just to make the lousy bucks
Got to feel-a like a fool
And-a mama used to say all-a time
What's-a matter you? Hey! Gotta no respect
What-a you t'ink you do? Why you look-a so sad?
It's-a not so bad
It's-a nice-a place
Ah Shaddap-a you face!
That's-a my mama, I can remember!
Big accordion solo!
Ah! Play that again! Really nice
Really nice!
Soon-a come-a day
Gonna be a big-a star
Then I make-a TV shows…
Report xmoneyx July 11, 2021 11:34 PM BST
boris

That was a heartbreaking result to end #Euro2020 but Gareth Southgate and his
@England
squad played like heroes. They have done the nation proud and deserve great credit
Report brentford July 11, 2021 11:34 PM BST
same as the Denmark game in leaving subs later than 90% of coaches would have -  let alone a squad with more of the talent on the bench,

as throughout the tourny it's such a results based job that you often struggle to get any objectivity but felt to me is just reluctant to make the bold moves to go and win the game or at least change the momentum (that had completely swayed to Italy) so can have few complaints at the result.
Report Blockfire July 11, 2021 11:34 PM BST
Crouch is on live at midnight bbc1 god that will be a laugh
Report Regbutler July 11, 2021 11:36 PM BST
Kane now desperately trying not to criticise southgate
Report mega88 July 11, 2021 11:36 PM BST
I hope Gigi was there, he deserves to see his beloved win
Report mega88 July 11, 2021 11:37 PM BST
That grealish don't half look tasty on the ball tho, if only he'd be on earlier who knows
Report badjoe July 11, 2021 11:38 PM BST
Wolf3011 proving himself to be a massive bellend.
Report wolf3011 July 11, 2021 11:39 PM BST
another scot seether, cant accept his side being knocked out before the knockout stage once again
Report lux July 11, 2021 11:39 PM BST
Rio is a f cking honky
Report mega88 July 11, 2021 11:41 PM BST
Rio is crackers
Report irishone July 11, 2021 11:41 PM BST
Southgate is a snowflake
Report Des Pond July 11, 2021 11:42 PM BST
Generic snooker/ football presenter on ITV wouldn't know a football if she fell over it.
Report irishone July 11, 2021 11:42 PM BST
Southgate had the game won.....but he lost it
Report Geesyerdosh July 11, 2021 11:44 PM BST
Bottled it. Bottled it. Bottled it.

That is all. Apart from Bottled it.
Report Timber July 11, 2021 11:44 PM BST

Jul 11, 2021 -- 5:28PM, Des Pond wrote:


It's ironic, after what happened in '96, that the more experienced players bottled it again. Surprised Southgate let that happen. Although maybe it was all part of his redemption song playbook.


Gareth just said HE chose the penalty takers, based on training

Report Regbutler July 11, 2021 11:45 PM BST
Why don't the so called experts criticise Southgate
Report jim smith July 11, 2021 11:46 PM BST
Insane choice of penalty takers. What on earth was Southgate thinking. Up there with the biggest management blunders of all time.
Report Des Pond July 11, 2021 11:47 PM BST
I don't believe that, tbh, but hey ho.
Report irishone July 11, 2021 11:47 PM BST
Thought maguire and kane wanted it more
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY July 11, 2021 11:48 PM BST
Hindsight a wonderful thing
Report irishone July 11, 2021 11:48 PM BST
Tony i put it up on the greyhound forum three days ago
Report Des Pond July 11, 2021 11:48 PM BST
Maguire showed  how it should be done, what did the other pen takers do in training to convince Southgate?
Report RioGrande July 11, 2021 11:49 PM BST
that was a great pen. smashed the camera too
Report irishone July 11, 2021 11:50 PM BST
Kane and maguire both scored.....
Report Eric.Cartman July 11, 2021 11:51 PM BST

Jul 11, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Des Pond wrote:


Maguire showed

Report jim smith July 11, 2021 11:52 PM BST
Typical Italian tournament win, draw the game, miss two penalties and still go home with the trophy
Report LoyalHoncho July 11, 2021 11:54 PM BST
irishone
irishone11 Jul 21 22:42
Southgate had the game won.....but he lost it


Spot on.  Posted the same here before half time.  He never got them out of second gear.  Terrible management with the attacking assets he had to hand.  I think I saw done a runner tip one ball over the bar.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 11, 2021 11:54 PM BST
I'd back meself to score at least
3 out of 5.

Pickford done his job

Lots wanted him dropped.
Report brain dead jockeys July 11, 2021 11:55 PM BST
grealish should have started. he can keep the ball. gotta go up and score another goal. not rocket science.

one thing for sure, this pen stalling, hop, skip, jump is RUBBISH.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 11, 2021 11:56 PM BST
Shaw might take a good pen?

He's had a cracking tournament
looks to have fully recovered
from that awful injury now.
Report jim smith July 11, 2021 11:56 PM BST
Pickford was excellent today and should have been the shootout hero
Report SontaranStratagem July 11, 2021 11:57 PM BST

Jul 11, 2021 -- 5:34PM, xmoneyx wrote:


borisThat was a heartbreaking result to end #Euro2020 but Gareth Southgate and his @Englandsquad played like heroes. They have done the nation proud and deserve great credit


They can seriously shove that s*it up their ar*e ffs Laugh

They've spent weeks building everyone's hopes up, harnessing their energy, getting them euphoric, getting them "believing", getting them out in massive numbers like that to boot

To fail yet again and then trot that s*it out

They lost there's nothing to be proud of

And now we've got a few weeks until the country is on lockdown again because of the "spreading variant" brought on by "football fandom"

God bless the England media Plain

Report wolf3011 July 11, 2021 11:57 PM BST
The players should just hit it hard and low, every time a player stutters it increases the risk of missing the pens- you'd think they would be coached how to increase the chances of scoring from what is a basic goal scoring opportunity
Report elisjohn July 11, 2021 11:57 PM BST
rashford should always start before kane, and southgate should have brought kane off 3 or 4 times this tournament, but kane is bigger than the team fact
Report Des Pond July 11, 2021 11:58 PM BST
Got to feel sorry for Pickford, he did what he needed to do.
Report lurka July 11, 2021 11:58 PM BST
Southgate had the game won? Bollócks. He has never had a Plan B. If anything they scored far too early
Report wolf3011 July 11, 2021 11:58 PM BST
yeah pickford did well
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 11, 2021 11:58 PM BST
Stones has gone a whole tournament
without a stupid mistake, thats
a low target, but he's a decent
player when he cuts out the errors.

Maguire played well too, bar
a dreadful passback at 0-0
Report brentford July 11, 2021 11:59 PM BST
good night for you Sonts' - must have been sweating the shoot out ...better team won though, no question.
Report Capt__F July 11, 2021 11:59 PM BST
tonight put England back 20 yearsSad
Report jim smith July 11, 2021 11:59 PM BST
On the plus side - only one year until the World Cup and we have a great chance
Report wolf3011 July 12, 2021 12:00 AM BST
I backed Italy pre tournament so fairly neutral tonight but don't get the anti English posts on here at all- seems like even the English wanted Italy to win Grin
Report SontaranStratagem July 12, 2021 12:00 AM BST
Brentford

Cheers, I won't rub it in with any more posts because that's not a nice way to lose for anyone

I feel relieved not smug
Report Geesyerdosh July 12, 2021 12:01 AM BST
Understandable. No one likes cheats and divers. Justice was done.
Report mega88 July 12, 2021 12:01 AM BST
Southgate would even lose at shadowboxing
Report lurka July 12, 2021 12:01 AM BST
England don't have a good defence. They have midfielders protecting a dodgy defence. Maguire and Stones did well tho. maguire esp, but they didn't have to defend much.

Arsenal had the 2nd best goals conceded in the PL last season. You would never say they had a good defence tho. England play similar with better players.
Report LoyalHoncho July 12, 2021 12:02 AM BST
But they rarely had to do anything y-h-t-l.  England barely stretched anyone so there were very, very few flash counter attacks.  Young Phillips, sweeping in front of them, made their lives so very easy.  Having Kane coming back to gather as well?  Criminal really.
Report wolf3011 July 12, 2021 12:02 AM BST
Well done SS, bet you are relieved after the last few weeks lol
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 12, 2021 12:03 AM BST
Mount doesn't look ready, but
he's had some good experience.

Same for saka for me, southgate
sees something, he's quick, for sure.

Sterling had a good tournament
but somewhat wasted in final
until Italy equalised.

Foden, sancho, grealish, bellingham
all underused. Maybe not ready.

Rashford, dunno, where does he fit in?
Report brentford July 12, 2021 12:03 AM BST
good on ya SS, I know you're a decent football guy behind the mask Grin
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 12, 2021 12:04 AM BST
Henderson

Our best passer, and exactly
what we needed... Maybe wasnt
fit enough?
Report sofaking July 12, 2021 12:04 AM BST

Jul 11, 2021 -- 5:57PM, elisjohn wrote:


rashford should always start before kane, and southgate should have brought kane off 3 or 4 times this tournament, but kane is bigger than the team fact


Are you kidding me?  Rashers is totally out of his depth at this leve.

Report sofaking July 12, 2021 12:04 AM BST
level.
Report lurka July 12, 2021 12:05 AM BST
Southgate has 18 months to learn tactically, integrate Bellingham and grealish and build a fluid attack.

He is learning on the job. He has learned since the World Cup. He can play like this most but not all of the time. He might be better off going now because he'll likely not get a 3rd soft draw in a row but he won't.

He needs to be tactically versatile with a plan b and c
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 12, 2021 12:07 AM BST
Walker did well, but think
he should be kept to centre back
for England.
Report mega88 July 12, 2021 12:08 AM BST
Anyway, well done winners, been a great tournament for boosting the bank again. Few more weeks and it'll be premiership again Excited
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 12, 2021 12:09 AM BST
Rice and phillips

Both did OK, but don't win enough
tackles for me. I'd be happier
with either rather than both.
Report LoyalHoncho July 12, 2021 12:10 AM BST
Southgate doesn't have it.  He proved it once again tonight.  He's a great waffler and the FA love that.  I think you're stuck with him for a while.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 12, 2021 12:10 AM BST
Well done mega

I've enjoyed the tournament

And the company on the match threads.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 12, 2021 12:11 AM BST
Pity about the dancing ladies tonite

But they are having a good time anyway

Report mega88 July 12, 2021 12:25 AM BST
ExcitedCool
Report chromakey July 12, 2021 12:28 AM BST
Cant have too much of the twirlin birds
Report lfc1971 July 12, 2021 12:49 AM BST
The boys of 66 remain untouched , Moore , Charlton , Banks , like heroes from Greek mythology HappyCool
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B July 12, 2021 12:50 AM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-57798771

Great scenes
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B July 12, 2021 7:24 AM BST
"There's people on the pitch, they think it's all Over" .......................... IT IS NOW LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Suck it up England fans.
Report sixtwosix July 12, 2021 8:16 AM BST
Three significant defeats now in penalty shoot outs.
But in 1990 and 1996 we were trying to win the game right to the end against good teams.
Italy were organised , Chiesa was class ....but...
the negative tactics for the best part of 2 hours with some much attacking flair was all Southgate's miserable failure.

And I have never seen a player looking more frightened in a penalty shoot out that Sako.
No doubt all the managers UEFA coaching accreditations led to this truly hapless decision.
Report MrMeaner July 12, 2021 8:29 AM BST
Anyway, back to the serious stuff in a few weeks. Pre-season friendlies start.
Report TheBetterBettor July 12, 2021 8:50 AM BST
Maguire played well too, bar
a dreadful passback at 0-0


That dreadful backpass led to the goal.
Report kincsem July 12, 2021 9:31 AM BST
The ref didn't but buy Raheem Sterling's dives.
Good game, very exciting.
Report 11kv July 12, 2021 10:49 AM BST
Well done Italy backers and well done Italy.
Report jollyswagman July 12, 2021 10:51 AM BST
congratulations italy, imo the best team in the tournament yet they were second best against spain and despite being better than england only beat us on penalties.
Report mega88 July 12, 2021 11:40 AM BST
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