Can't disagree with you spyker.  This Rob McLean, who commentated yesterday, is a prime example of the trash we have to deal with.  We"Argentina" vets at least have experience of it, the younger ones don't and just get brainwashed into believing the myth.  And myth it is.  Even England's most modest squad player would walk into our side.  And worse, we get the manager and the captain coming out afterwards and bemoaning how "unlucky" we were.  And much, much worse, we look at Dykes and remember Law, Dalglish and Jordan.