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Anyone about the 20th tone since Christmas let Down by 1 team hull for a grand 1.5,I'm addicted to 1.5 and btts accas my luck is unbelievable 1 team every time,tonight again 15 teams and 1 again,and no it doesn't matter how many I do,anyone else sick of it
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Report G Hall February 24, 2021 11:38 AM GMT
Predicative text how can xaar become case ffs
Report Emitdeb February 24, 2021 12:45 PM GMT
I Love Gambling and I Hate Gambling.. Crazy

Charlton let me down last night... I knew they would. Crazy

Spurs.. 1.33 Man City -1.. 1.73 Arsenal.. 1.8   3/1 ... Kind of fully expect Spurs to fk this up too.
Report sparrow February 24, 2021 12:49 PM GMT
I would hardly call a 15 team acca gambling but more like buying a raffle ticket.
Report xaar February 24, 2021 1:28 PM GMT
sparrow its not win bets 1.5 accas, youd be surprised how many come in. i do get greedy sometimes and do too many its quite a frustrating way to gamble, i done all forms believe me i tend to like this way this past few years ive done well.
Report xaar February 24, 2021 1:30 PM GMT
the title wasnt im quitting just sometimes you get sick with bad luck, and i mean bad luck as you all know the most bizarre things happen when you gamble
Report sparrow February 24, 2021 2:31 PM GMT
Fair enough xaar, especially if you do ok with the bets.
Report SontaranStratagem February 24, 2021 3:39 PM GMT
I once had back to back 15 2.5s where 1 game let me down and it was Millwall both times, hence my hatred for them, not because they are a horrible club or anything it was because they technically cost 3 grand in 6 days, I was 18 at the time and just started gambling and was skint Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem February 24, 2021 3:39 PM GMT
Sorry I was 21 and had just started gambling proper
Report SontaranStratagem February 24, 2021 3:40 PM GMT
And the "learn your lesson" never happened because I'm still gambling and still sticking Millwall in accas Cry
Report brassneck February 24, 2021 3:45 PM GMT
So this is the answer if you are sick of gambling.
"you go to the seaside and look at the waves ,this is very therapeutic to say the least,but surprise surprise it is the best therapy for curing a losing run,its psychological therapy that is proven to work wonders,if you can not get to the seaside check youtube for a waves breaking video.
something happens to your subconscious that can not be explained when a guy looks at waves breaking,it will sort out the losing run very quickly.CHECK IT OUT ,then come back and place your bet,never known to fail.Wink
Report Emitdeb February 24, 2021 3:53 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2t83JsbGI&ab_channel=BoydTV

Brilliant !

Conclusion.. Spurs will win Happy
Report brassneck February 24, 2021 3:57 PM GMT
the waves will quickly blast the Millwall Middlesboro,and Sheffield United teams out of your systemLaugh
Report SontaranStratagem February 24, 2021 4:22 PM GMT
The waves will need to be strong to blast that out the system brass Laugh
Report xaar February 24, 2021 4:39 PM GMT
SontaranStratagem funny a couple of years ago think it was reading millwall, needed 1.5 in the game millwall 1 nil up after 14 mins, reading were bottom at the time and playing woeful, reading a man sent off with 35 to play and another with 20 to go, finished 1-0 swear millwall hit the post 10 times Laugh for nearly 4k too on a boxing day oh the joys of gambling Crazy
Report SontaranStratagem February 24, 2021 4:56 PM GMT
Millwall are the pits cost me so much the bas*ards
Report the fink sisters February 25, 2021 7:40 PM GMT
Chasing losses is the killer. Doing my currants today and have lumped on Benicia to qualify. If Arsenal turn this around, it will be a dreadful day.
Report the fink sisters February 25, 2021 7:41 PM GMT
No!!!!!!!
Report sofaking February 25, 2021 7:45 PM GMT
When the fun stops....Stop.   And stop doing accas. Wink
Report sofaking February 25, 2021 7:46 PM GMT

Feb 25, 2021 -- 1:40PM, the fink sisters wrote:


Chasing losses is the killer. Doing my currants today and have lumped on Benicia to qualify. If Arsenal turn this around, it will be a dreadful day.


Cry Benfica are really poor. Hope you didn't lose too much.

Report Emitdeb February 25, 2021 7:50 PM GMT
Sky's are Sunny!!

Spurs.. 1.33 Man City -1.. 1.73 Arsenal.. 1.8   3/1 ... Kind of fully expect Spurs to fk this up too.

Happy
Report sofaking February 25, 2021 7:52 PM GMT
Backing Spurs on a consistent basis is a quick way to the poorhouse Emitdeb.
Report Emitdeb February 25, 2021 8:12 PM GMT
LaughLaugh
Report the fink sisters February 25, 2021 8:21 PM GMT
Not a great day betting wise, Sofa. Made worse by the fact that I was actually up after the end of the Test Match. Discipline, and avoiding horse racing altogether, would seem the way forward. But I’m probably too old to learn now.
Report wolf3011 February 25, 2021 8:21 PM GMT
Im not bored of gambling but bored to tears of football, I may take an interest in the horses
Report the fink sisters February 25, 2021 8:28 PM GMT
Don’t do it Wolf. The quickest way to the poor house...
Report brassneck February 25, 2021 11:00 PM GMT
The Caterpillar has to die before it is reborn, before you knew this you all said "when your dead your dead there is no after life,and you did not believe in heaven!
"now i tell you to check out a waves breaking on the shore video ,and you will find your gambling heaven."it really really works"ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked and nobody can explain it,but your mind thinks differently after viewing one video,and the winners flow in as your available to bet balance runs up like a petrol pump clock.GrinGrinGrin
Report ZEALOT February 26, 2021 12:08 AM GMT
Don’t do it Wolf. The quickest way to the poor house...

Very bad advice . Playing on Betfair is a numbers game - thats it . Find an edge and repeat over and over and over  ,  play the long game and with correct money management its just a game of patience . Its RUSH that kills accounts  .
Report SontaranStratagem February 26, 2021 3:04 AM GMT
Horse Racing is the most specialist sport, I find it impossible to win during a month never mind long term. Its the 2nds that kill you in horse racing, the amount of times your done close home is enough to commit sometimes

I can take late goals in football but a done on the line 2nd in horse racing I just can't handle it

I actually prefer football which is flipped as I use to prefer horse racing, I find it more fun and its easier to mess around with systems and not lose to much ie when going on tilt, football does have a ceiling for my temperament, whereas horse racing I can do my absolute nuts on chasing.
Report Slicer February 26, 2021 12:31 PM GMT
There is a saying in the history books by the eminent Roman philosopher Slicerius which, translated from the Latin, states: "If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got!" Applies to most things in life including winning, losing & accumulators!
Report Emitdeb February 26, 2021 12:43 PM GMT
Slowly, slowly catchy monkey...
Report Emitdeb February 26, 2021 12:43 PM GMT
Slowly, slowly catchy monkey...
Report Emitdeb February 26, 2021 12:43 PM GMT
Slowly, slowly catchy monkey...
Report sageform February 26, 2021 12:44 PM GMT
Is there a difference between gambling and enjoying a bet? If you have ever run your own business then most of what you do every day is a gamble. Did you pay too much for a new machine, is your new employee honest, will the Government close you down ( which is what happened to my family farming business in 1998) etc. etc. A few £5 bets each day on horses is just a relaxation and has no real impact on my lifestyle whether they win or not. These days my main gambles are on the Stock Market. I have been betting for 60 years and have never expected it to pay.
Report everyone's a winner February 26, 2021 1:23 PM GMT
there's all sorts going on under the umbrella of 'gambling'.

at one end of the spectrum there are people with very disciplined staking plans and edges, sticking to what they know, making a profit from it in the long term. It's a very small % of gamblers. At the other end are the more compulsive gamblers, essentially thrill seekers, trying to get rich quick, not much discipline, looking for the big win but when they get it, it isn't enough. Often they're gambling on virtual slot machines, roulette etc. as well as quick turnaround sports like racing which gets them the fix more quickly. They often lose more than they can afford and consequently it's very unhealthy.

In between the two, you've got people who are really just gambling for fun and enjoying it on the whole. If you are doing very small stakes accumulators with lots of selections, it's not going to do much harm, if you aren't staking very much but you can't expect to win all the time either. There are people who generally stick to singles, quite disciplined with the staking, so don't lose much but have no real edge, so not making long term profits. That's me, if I'm honest but I'm not terrible at judging value in the odds / prices, so the deposits last a while but it usually comes unstuck at some point.
Report shiny new shoes please February 26, 2021 1:33 PM GMT
What's going on here ! .. Sense
Zealot , slicer,every1,sage
The worlds gone mad..
ExcitedLaugh
Report ZEALOT February 26, 2021 2:06 PM GMT
If its your thing to play around with a couple of quid here and there for a bit of entertainment then thats your choice but its a fact that the way you play the game makes it IMPOSSIBLE for you to win long term . I would much rather risk £10,000 over the space of 2 months and make a £700 profit .
Report SontaranStratagem February 26, 2021 4:05 PM GMT

Feb 26, 2021 -- 7:23AM, everyone's a winner wrote:


there's all sorts going on under the umbrella of 'gambling'. at one end of the spectrum there are people with very disciplined staking plans and edges, sticking to what they know, making a profit from it in the long term. It's a very small % of gamblers. At the other end are the more compulsive gamblers, essentially thrill seekers, trying to get rich quick, not much discipline, looking for the big win but when they get it, it isn't enough. Often they're gambling on virtual slot machines, roulette etc. as well as quick turnaround sports like racing which gets them the fix more quickly. They often lose more than they can afford and consequently it's very unhealthy.In between the two, you've got people who are really just gambling for fun and enjoying it on the whole. If you are doing very small stakes accumulators with lots of selections, it's not going to do much harm, if you aren't staking very much but you can't expect to win all the time either. There are people who generally stick to singles, quite disciplined with the staking, so don't lose much but have no real edge, so not making long term profits. That's me, if I'm honest but I'm not terrible at judging value in the odds / prices, so the deposits last a while but it usually comes unstuck at some point.


There are people who generally stick to singles, quite disciplined with the staking, so don't lose much but have no real edge, so not making long term profits.

Pretty much myself to be honest, barring the one or two times a year I go thrill seeking for a big hit

Report SontaranStratagem February 26, 2021 4:09 PM GMT
There are another group to that 3

They can be found on Twitch/Youtube pretending to buy $25,000 a pop bonuses on the virtual slots every night to lure in the suckers to who actually believe such nonsense

Its these guys who are essentially shutting down our freedom to gamble in this country, as per usual they don't go after the root course of the problem they basically stop the rest of us from enjoying the experience of gambling, whilst at the same time the so called "high rollers" are allowed to continue in their idiocy unabated in a gambling safe haven CrazyCry
Report Slicer February 26, 2021 6:25 PM GMT
At last-The Holy Grail of Football Betting. Thanks very much.
Report Giuseppe February 26, 2021 6:32 PM GMT
this doesn't work i tried it once
Report SontaranStratagem February 26, 2021 6:39 PM GMT
If it was that simple it would bankrupt the place Laugh

I suppose you can martin gale it Wink
Report Emitdeb February 26, 2021 6:51 PM GMT
Just heard a pal (non gambler) has come up with a genius idea.. He's gonna put £1k on Man City tomorrow... I think he may come unstuck because he plans to carry on hitting £1k on City till they miss.
Report wolf3011 February 26, 2021 9:27 PM GMT

Feb 26, 2021 -- 12:25PM, Slicer wrote:


At last-The Holy Grail of Football Betting. Thanks very much.


Laugh

Report brassneck February 26, 2021 10:00 PM GMT
Anyone who played the holy grail tonight got notts forest,Venezia and Frankfurt all odds on at HT.ShockedShockedShocked
Report Deptford February 26, 2021 10:39 PM GMT
No, love it, I am lucky that I do not chase, it took me a long time but discipline is key, my football bets are normally btts or overs, trebles and 4 folds, but to me these are fun bets, watching Jeff on a Saturday, a great 2 hours, my main bets are better class horse races and certain types of dog racing, it’s hard work and watching endless replays do my eyes in, I’m 57 and reading glasses give me headache!
Report ZEALOT March 2, 2021 8:59 PM GMT
Anybody enjoying gambling again ?
Report moisok March 2, 2021 9:05 PM GMT
there are so few on here anymore used to be  3 - 400 post on one game and also an exchange of ideas of betting etc   - now  - man city  - none I think
Report ZEALOT March 2, 2021 9:25 PM GMT
A Newbie would learn zip on here now .
Report johnnythebull March 2, 2021 10:07 PM GMT
no such thing as an 'edge' imho..only way to be a successful gambler is not to be a gambler

very hard to overcome the aberrant genes

I came into this world with fk all and i'll be leaving it with even lessGrin
Report moisok March 2, 2021 10:14 PM GMT
it is very sad  -  just on a roll with nine wins from sat to this evening
using a very old approach
if you do well  they want to tear you down - you should see the invective I got over the weekend
Report moisok March 2, 2021 10:15 PM GMT
ps I have been using it for many years  and they don't understand the idea of trading out or in of positions
their loss
Report moisok March 2, 2021 10:16 PM GMT
as a newbie tip why not jump in and out of correct score  or even with match odds altough I find match odds much slower in changes
Report moisok March 2, 2021 10:17 PM GMT
how many draws are there in the premier league  -  Brass will tell you and give you ideas
Report brassneck March 2, 2021 10:26 PM GMT
it was 19% before the pandemic,now i think there are a lot of draws because a lot of teams want to lose and refs + var seem to have reasons for games to end all square,refs and var give penalties or flag goals offside to even up the score near the end.LaughLaughLaugh
Report brassneck March 2, 2021 10:32 PM GMT
holy grail system 1.01 beaten in turkey yesterday ended 2-2(div 2)
Report brassneck March 2, 2021 10:36 PM GMT
real madrid game last night 1.09 another holy grail beatenWink
Report moisok March 2, 2021 11:22 PM GMT
brass   - there is the option to arb out   which I have done several times  - people ask  how can you have won  as the result was  a draw  1  1 

they do not realise the number of games at  0  0  at ht or just before which you can trade out of  at a profit

the lay of the draw still wins if it is the result  - you can trade the two prices and the difference and a healthy profit can be there with most games
Report Slicer March 3, 2021 8:49 AM GMT
Excuse me- I'm new here , very wet behind the ears & naive regarding all this bettering business. But could some of you experienced in the know guys n gals clear this up- surely if a Holy Grail bet is beaten, it's not The Holy Grail. Just asking.
Report ericster March 3, 2021 8:59 AM GMT

Mar 2, 2021 -- 4:16PM, moisok wrote:


as a newbie tip why not jump in and out of correct score

Report ericster March 3, 2021 8:59 AM GMT
Cool
Report G Hall March 3, 2021 10:06 AM GMT
A lot of punters or should that be most punters don't want to put the work in, or be sat at the machine trading prices, it's all about instant gratification for many.
Report ericster March 3, 2021 10:12 AM GMT
Wouldn't disagree with that GH.
Report wolf3011 March 3, 2021 10:26 AM GMT
lol @ " putting the work in and getting useful tips here". There hasnt been a thread In the last 15 years on this forum demonstrating long term profit. We get the usual overs threads and the like claiming to have found the holy grail yet they all end the same way- many think they have an edge talking about discipline and finding sports they love but eventually their perceived edge is only in their own head.
Report Reveen March 3, 2021 12:29 PM GMT

Mar 3, 2021 -- 4:26AM, wolf3011 wrote:


lol @ " putting the work in and getting useful tips here". There hasnt been a thread In the last 15 years on this forum demonstrating long term profit. We get the usual overs threads and the like claiming to have found the holy grail yet they all end the same way- many think they have an edge talking about discipline and finding sports they love but eventually their perceived edge is only in their own head.


Love

Report bluebook March 3, 2021 12:33 PM GMT
Well, to get 14 right out of 15 seems incredible.
Report moisok March 3, 2021 1:53 PM GMT
brass  -   the old back 0  0   and lay of the draw seems to do quite well even with the draws  - arbing out at 0 0  ht still gives a profit  or cashing out while one team is still ahead
Report ericster March 3, 2021 2:00 PM GMT
Does cashing out at h/t with the outsider leading really give a profit on the draw-lay moisok?
That surprises me.
Report everyone's a winner March 3, 2021 2:26 PM GMT
the trade out from the draw lay also has to give you enough profit to compensate for the 0-0 back being a losing bet. if it were that straightforward, then we'd all be doing it. appreciate he's happy doing whatever he's doing but no way is that guaranteed 'free money', there are plenty of loopholes in it. if you lay the draw for a large sum in comparison to the 0-0 back, then you can't green out if it stays 0-0, too little and you've not enough to trade out with.

if it's working, it must be something to do with the games being chosen and the time gap between goals being scored (if any goals are scored) and it not being a score draw.
Report ericster March 3, 2021 2:54 PM GMT
"Straight-forward" it most certainly isn't but if what moisoc is doing works for moisoc, good for him.
Report Slicer March 3, 2021 2:57 PM GMT
Moisok is a good egg & deserves to prosper!
Report Giuseppe March 3, 2021 3:03 PM GMT
moisok is a legend on this forum

some people knead to show more respect
Report ericster March 3, 2021 3:45 PM GMT
No criticism  guys, much respect here.

I would hope that moisoc knows that.
Certainly would not speak against him.
Report hfink March 3, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
I quite enjoy it, I'm just sick of losing Grin
Report ericster March 3, 2021 5:16 PM GMT
Got THAT T-shirt.
Report ZEALOT March 3, 2021 11:03 PM GMT
Gaining the psychological skills to be a consistent winner is the holy grail .
Report moisok March 3, 2021 11:13 PM GMT
next bet can be the end of it  but I do not bet like that  - I see several games it one time  - say a weekend where there may be say  a dozen opportunities
you may lose ( or arb out at a loss) and win on the rest   look at the stats/resulst  - sometimes you need to stay in there

what can I say
big win on utd tonight   0   0
Report moisok March 3, 2021 11:22 PM GMT
a bunch of over puffed up 'we don't need to turn up'  against a bunch of well schooled blockers ( coached by the best)  and what do you expect

it is too cold for the primped up hairdos to try at all - so  mo reaps the rewards
Report moisok March 3, 2021 11:23 PM GMT
pay for soccerball players should be limited to 1000 per week  - that would stop all this crap
Report ZEALOT March 4, 2021 9:52 AM GMT
Money ruins everything . These morons who play the game now are an embarrassment. You see them messing around before a game , shaking hands , hugging etcetc . Where is the steely determination that was seen regularly in our game . How the hell can a foreign player feel anything for his club , they had probably never heard of them before they joined !!!   This is what happens when you let greedy businessmen have a say in Football .

All of this pathetic analysis , non stop sky coverage , hyping up even the most mundane games is cringeworthy. Take me back to Liverpool v United Circa 83-89 any day .
Report ericster March 4, 2021 11:28 AM GMT
Well done moisok, apologies for mis-spelling your name, and I like what you say about arbing.
What can I say? I try. Blush
Report ericster March 4, 2021 11:29 AM GMT

Mar 4, 2021 -- 3:52AM, ZEALOT wrote:


Money ruins everything . These morons who play the game now are an embarrassment. You see them messing around before a game , shaking hands , hugging etcetc . Where is the steely determination that was seen regularly in our game . How the hell can a foreign player feel anything for his club , they had probably never heard of them before they joined !!!

Report ericster March 4, 2021 11:30 AM GMT
I totally agree ZEA.
Report moisok March 5, 2021 2:41 PM GMT
there is a lot out there - it takes some  years in my opinion - discipline (which is my weakness)   and arb out  take your profits  - don't get over confident#
but I have a troll on here tells me I cannot do it  - well   21 games later I have with no loss  - which actually amazes me as I do have losses in a normal month  but so far it has been quite silly with the  number of 0  0  s   and  1 goal only scored  - it is an odd season with many fancied teams crashing

good luck
Report ericster March 5, 2021 2:47 PM GMT
I'm all for taking profit moisok and right now, mmmmmmmmm, I'm working on it.
As you said, sometimes you just have to hang in there.
Report The Dragon March 5, 2021 3:16 PM GMT
nah. i find it a challenge  as long as you only lose what you can afforsd and keep it sensible its great fun

you can always win of course
Report ericster March 5, 2021 3:17 PM GMT
Yep.
How's it going Dragon?
Report wolf3011 March 5, 2021 6:33 PM GMT
Do all these "systems" and challenges beat the premium charge first tier of over 20% which will come in even if you have any success.. I doubt it
Report moisok March 5, 2021 6:36 PM GMT
Should I say there may be 'ways'
Report moisok March 5, 2021 6:41 PM GMT
0  0  back   and   lay the draw  on  the huddersfield game

a bit of  1  0     and   0   1 trade during game

cue   4   0   ha ha ha
Report moisok March 5, 2021 7:58 PM GMT
0  0  gone from  10s  to  7.8
Report ericster March 5, 2021 8:15 PM GMT
Nice one moisok.
Report ericster March 5, 2021 8:15 PM GMT

Mar 5, 2021 -- 12:36PM, moisok wrote:


Should I say there may be 'ways'


I think so.

Report moisok March 5, 2021 8:29 PM GMT
that was a good save  phew!!!
Report moisok March 5, 2021 8:32 PM GMT
you can cash out on both 0  0  and   match odds but it will be only 30 percent winnings if that
if you stay in you run all sorts of risks   but then look at how many  0  0  s and   1  0    0   1s  have occurred
Report moisok March 5, 2021 9:19 PM GMT
I am out now  - look at that 0 0  odds for starters    0  0 went from 10s to 1.8    nice profit  - the lay of the draw cost cuts in to it but leaves you with a 40 percent profit
Report ericster March 6, 2021 9:22 AM GMT
That's the dilemma with laying the draw moisok.
Staying in can be a real nail-biter.
Trading out inplay cuts the profit.
Insurance bets eats into the profit.
I'm working on it.
Report moisok March 6, 2021 12:37 PM GMT
Just take the profit  by cashing out of both scores even if it is 30/40  percent of what you could make by leaving it to the end
I would rather do that than  losing the whole lot!!
Report ericster March 6, 2021 1:23 PM GMT
My thoughts exactly.
And I have my own ideas about how long I'll let a red top line run for.
There are ways and means of course.
Report moisok March 6, 2021 2:25 PM GMT
you can always back the  1  1   but what chance has that score  staying for the second half  burnley  arsenal -  just couldn't get the ball in the net  ha ha
like I have said elsewhere some odd scores cropping up!!
Report moisok March 6, 2021 5:21 PM GMT
more  0  0s and lay of the draw  -  its going to crash for me but rangers was a shoe in lets be fair
southampton less so
now on to villa
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