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bigbod
27 Oct 20 16:04
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whats happened with the football markets, i had 2 bets in the bristol city u23 match and betfair have removed the market, its not the only football  market theyve  removed
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Report Darlo Bantam October 27, 2020 2:28 PM GMT
Yes. Ditto with Sheffield Wednesday v Ipswich. My bets disappeared and the market disappeared. No bets in my account.

Sunday they completely voided a match in Venezuela. Recently had money in several other matches just never settled. Very concerning.
Report Arthur_Spooner October 27, 2020 2:36 PM GMT
Sampdoria-Salernitana suspended too
Report JD0161341 October 27, 2020 2:40 PM GMT
Ridiculous to void all the bets - hopefully they'll reinstate.  Or if not how about an explanation???
Report takethestand October 27, 2020 3:00 PM GMT
my bets on Sampdoria game voided :(
Report Stayed_onwell_never_threatened October 27, 2020 3:03 PM GMT
These fcuking scumbags would void all exchange markets if they could get away with it. They just want people to bet on sportsbook with **** odds offered
Report shiny new shoes please October 27, 2020 3:16 PM GMT
The end is nigh
The sky is falling in.
Run for cover.
Report scandanavian_haven October 27, 2020 3:30 PM GMT
you can only assume it's because of suspicious betting activity, i.e. potential f1x alerts, an Italian match and an under 23's match likely targets.
Report Coachbuster October 27, 2020 3:44 PM GMT
womens in play too suspended turket v russia
Report ericster October 27, 2020 4:08 PM GMT

Oct 27, 2020 -- 4:28PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


Yes. Ditto with Sheffield Wednesday v Ipswich. My bets disappeared and the market disappeared. No bets in my account.Sunday they completely voided a match in Venezuela. Recently had money in several other matches just never settled. Very concerning.


I had this happen to me a couple of days ago, greened up in a game but didn't get the profit. "Voided". How can they void matched bets?
And WHY?

Report ericster October 27, 2020 4:09 PM GMT
These games should never have on the coupon.
Report ericster October 27, 2020 4:10 PM GMT
Oh dear, should never have [ BEEN ] on the coupon.


BETFAIR it's not nice having winning bets voided.
Report Coachbuster October 27, 2020 4:25 PM GMT
had by losing bet settled on the Russia/Turkey womens game if thats any help ...it was suspended throughout and only just now settled
Report Darlo Bantam October 27, 2020 4:28 PM GMT

Oct 27, 2020 -- 6:10PM, ericster wrote:


Oh dear, should never have [ BEEN ] on the coupon.BETFAIR it's not nice having winning bets voided.


>That'll be because the incompetence is getting worse.

How many punters putting money into markets and could never win?!

Report shiny new shoes please October 27, 2020 4:34 PM GMT
Void the green
Keep the red
Best business model I've heard of.
Report Coachbuster October 27, 2020 4:39 PM GMT
anyone else had losing bets settled /voided ?    i have only ever had losing bets voided before
Report Coachbuster October 27, 2020 4:40 PM GMT
winning bets voided sorry  Whoops
Report Angoose October 27, 2020 5:01 PM GMT
I've had winning bets voided then had to pester them to sort it out.
Never had a losing bet voided. Funny that.
Report Coachbuster October 27, 2020 5:04 PM GMT
same here angoose
Report Darlo Bantam October 27, 2020 5:06 PM GMT
Conspiracy theory only.

Since I'm trading, it's both losing and winnings bets for me. They're just voiding markets.

It's the principle that is wrong. Like I said, place money into a market when you're unable to win. What happens to those that lay off with a different bookmaker? Or occasionally, I'll trade different markets against each other. If they void one then not the other, then you are in trouble.
Report ericster October 27, 2020 5:10 PM GMT

Oct 27, 2020 -- 7:01PM, Angoose wrote:


I've had winning bets voided then had to pester them to sort it out.Never had a losing bet voided. Funny that.


I never got mine sorted out, lucky you.
When I contacted them was told, I'm wondering if I misread it now, I thought it said reversed fixture [did I misread reserved?]. If it was a reserved game and shouldn't have been on the coupon, couldn't they have just let it run and settled? Where would have been the harm? And they could just pick and choose in the future.

Report ericster October 27, 2020 5:12 PM GMT
Anyone else play in the Shakhtar v vorskla game on Sunday? That was my voided winner.
Report Aspro October 27, 2020 5:25 PM GMT
Pordenone just disappeared completely from the exchange and a few minutes later it returned. Must have done a Dier and gone for a dump.
Report ericster October 27, 2020 5:29 PM GMT
Again I say, if it got some takers on the exchange, why can't they just let it go and void the unmatched.
Report ericster October 27, 2020 5:31 PM GMT
But that would be a rotten deal for the inplay-traders. BF, just let them run eh? And settle.
Report Arthur_Spooner October 27, 2020 7:13 PM GMT
Still no explanation from betfair?
Report shiny new shoes please October 27, 2020 7:51 PM GMT
Wake up they don't a toss
Report Darlo Bantam October 27, 2020 8:31 PM GMT

Oct 27, 2020 -- 9:13PM, Arthur_Spooner wrote:


Still no explanation from betfair?


Explanation is posted above. Certainly on some of the markets anyway. An invalid explanation as far as I'm concerned but this is their excuse:

These games should never have been on the coupon.

Report shiny new shoes please October 27, 2020 8:49 PM GMT
Lol
Report shiny new shoes please October 27, 2020 8:50 PM GMT
Paddy used to say that 1
Report RyanWolf October 28, 2020 6:54 AM GMT

Oct 27, 2020 -- 5:30PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


you can only assume it's because of suspicious betting activity, i.e. potential f1x alerts, an Italian match and an under 23's match likely targets.


Nah, no way. Plenty of fixed games since ages here, some very obvious with thousands of $$$ matched and never seen single game voided due to "suspicious betting activity" issue it's not Sbobet or Singbet. And speaking about this reserve game mentioned, u23 uk games are not fixed odds shift like crazy because of team news. Must be something else.

Report Aspro October 28, 2020 9:12 AM GMT
Wake up they don't a toss

All the current coupon games showing in-play. No scores, no times, nothing. I have no clue either, but it is one thing after another now. This site is not fit for purpose. I think Shiny has got this one spot on.
Report ericster October 28, 2020 9:46 AM GMT
I reckon you're right Aspro. It's a petty gripe really I suppose but I did have a moan about no score-line a while back, it's a nuisance but what can we do?
Also, they should not be consorting with bookmakers, that was the whole point of BF.
I wonder what messrs Black and Wray make of all this.
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND October 28, 2020 10:33 AM GMT
Nobody shoud have to have ask why a bet is voided. It should be put up for all and sundry to read so everyone knows what happened.
The fact they put no reason up and you have to chase this up, is a concern.
Report ericster October 28, 2020 11:01 AM GMT
ASF, the concern is that they will change tack inplay with bet and lay  offers going through  the markets of a game, some matched, and just pull the rugs from under those involved. If they want to pull events from the exchange, okay, I can live with that, that's their choice, but when bets have been matched couldn't they at least  let these  games play out to the end. I suppose  I should be grateful that my stake was re-funded.
Report Darlo Bantam October 28, 2020 1:13 PM GMT
Last two posts nail it.

It's a concern when they do pull active markets when people are betting/trading and can't actually win. It's frustrating when a supposed in-play market is not put in-play especially for those wanting to take a position before the off and trade out in-play, but sometimes that's understandably beyond BF's control. But pulling a market when it has naturally run its course is a different problem altogether.
Report eddiemac October 30, 2020 7:51 PM GMT
As you will notice I very seldom post...If you issue proceedings in your local civil court (cost buttons) get costs back when you win and you will!.. as they have to employ to a local brief to defend the indenfensible at £250 ph which and could take all day to be called...simple
Report eddiemac October 30, 2020 8:24 PM GMT
I should have added NO Major company ever defends a small claim (say under £500) if there is ANY doubt

Also if you get judgment they wont prevaricate in future

Good luck
Report eddiemac October 30, 2020 8:24 PM GMT
I should have added NO Major company ever defends a small claim (say under £500) if there is ANY doubt

Also if you get judgment they wont prevaricate in future

Good luck
Report eddiemac October 30, 2020 8:24 PM GMT
I should have added NO Major company ever defends a small claim (say under £500) if there is ANY doubt

Also if you get judgment they wont prevaricate in future

Good luck
Report sevey October 30, 2020 11:00 PM GMT
As aspro says they don't give a toss hibs game tomorrow celtic Sunday can't even get the fckin correct kick off times correct wonder when the fckers will notice it very unprofessional
Report scandanavian_haven October 30, 2020 11:06 PM GMT
where is all of this being managed from, Romania ?
Report sevey October 30, 2020 11:32 PM GMT
Scanda some of them in that office should have a good look at them selves
Report scandanavian_haven October 30, 2020 11:48 PM GMT
I remember Betfair transferred a lot of their operations in terms of market management (admin) from Ireland (Dublin) to Romania a couple of years ago, there were quite a few posts/threads at time made about poor management, adding markets too late, no extra time markets, wrong times/date that sort of thing, not sure why it's gotten worse now but maybe has something to do with a lack of staff over there because of Covid-19 restrictions, foreign office update on Romania was that new restrictions were put in place on October 20th which included closing of gambling venues (along with theatres and cinemas, plus all schools teaching is now online from home), and that would include their headquarters over there which is in Cluj-napoca, one of the places where the new rules apply.

Maybe reduced staff and access to company technology/facilities is the problem.
Report scandanavian_haven October 30, 2020 11:49 PM GMT
btw, anyone breaching those rules over there are fined up to 2.5k. No Romanian worker is going to risk that.
Report ericster October 31, 2020 10:35 AM GMT
WFC CSKA Moscow (w) vs FC Chertanovo (w), yesterday.
I traded out red in a market that never was.

Should be glad I suppose but I'd really like to have a play.
Report Darlo Bantam November 12, 2020 11:55 PM GMT
Had another market settle and then disappear yesterday. Was something voided a day later. No idea which match.

So happy that this sh!t keeps going on.
Report Coachbuster November 13, 2020 12:05 AM GMT
Error Fix Error Fix Error Fix
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