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Clarky9
23 Dec 13 22:48
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I think Spain are a big price at 8.8. Won their last three major tournaments and although some of their key players are getting on, they have plenty of young talent coming through. The heat shouldn't bother them, so I feel they're just too big at 8.8.

Other team that interests me are Uruguay who have the best player in the World up front for them and his strike partner Cavanni isn't half bad either. With conditions to suit, strong recent form and a massive cutting edge up front, they're far too big at 29.0...

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Clarky9
When: 23 Dec 13 23:01
I like Germany, but that game they were 4-0 up against Sweden then ended 4-4 sticks in my mind. Hard to see them not bottling it
By:
jon b
When: 23 Dec 13 23:04
Uruguay at 29s looks a bit of value there like clarky says ,  easy group to get out of tooWink
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Dec 13 23:05
the germans can never beat the italians
By:
marko2004
When: 23 Dec 13 23:31
Uruguay, ill lay anyones money on Uruguay theyre ****. What strong recent form is this? when they needed a playoff to qualify? The usual suspects will be there Brazil, Germany, Spain, Italy and Argentina, the winner comes from them. Brazil and Germany being the main 2 for me.
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 23 Dec 13 23:37
Spain the value now they have Costa on board.
By:
ours4keeps
When: 23 Dec 13 23:50
Backed Uruguay when they had to face a playoff. Against Jordan. Tricky to figure out how that price was going to moveGrin.

If Costa establishes himself, Spain could be the stand out again, though Xavi and Xabi are fading. Chile are my other outside sniff.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 23 Dec 13 23:52
Yeah, Chile a very good bet I think.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 23 Dec 13 23:52
Though obviously they got a duff draw.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 23 Dec 13 23:53
Colombia also a decent outside chance, with a much, much better draw than Chile.
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Dec 13 00:17
Holland @33/1 are a bigger price than England & Uruguay . Rather better than both IMO
By:
marychain1
When: 24 Dec 13 00:39
Brazil.

The tournament has not been too well received by many in Brazil, people think its badly organised and could fall flat on its face and there will be pressure on the side to start well. However, like the London Olympics once it gets going the country will get behind them and they will be extremely hard to stop.

Players like Luiz and Ramires are twice the player in their national jerseys, and massively popular.

There are major question marks about all of the other favourites - Argentina (defence, Messi fitness/form), Germany (climate), Spain (Xavi/Iniesta getting on).

The one I'd throw in at a massive price would be Ecuador, but Brazil will walk it to the semis and be odds on by then
By:
Zazu
When: 24 Dec 13 01:13
Couldnt back Holland with stolen money after the Euros

Think Germany will win but Italy are huge price
By:
kincsem
When: 24 Dec 13 03:34
Italy are very good value at 30.
I ignore form and look at history when betting on the World Cup.
When any of Brazil (3.4/1), Argentina (5/1), Germany (6/1), Italy (29/1) get out of line pricewise I back them.
Brazil, Germany, Italy are the big teams, the teams to back.  Argentina a distant fourth.
By:
therhino
When: 24 Dec 13 05:57
I'm with mary. Brazil all the way, with a saver on Argentina. Italy at odds as a trading option perhaps but now way they win. The cup will stay in South America
By:
GODSEND
When: 24 Dec 13 08:55
Greece at 320s
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 24 Dec 13 11:09
France - 25/1 - they blow  bit hot and cold but should walk their
group and looks like an easy game in the first knockout stage.
By:
loui
When: 24 Dec 13 11:18
chile, becaue they,re a good team. back to lay job.
By:
Tony Broke
When: 24 Dec 13 11:26
brazil will win it, the most obvious winner since 1970, murdered spain last time they played them, no one to come near at the moment, outsider? Italy or Greece, who will prob be very hard to beat, and beat someone decent on pens all the way to semis or something
By:
Stringer
When: 24 Dec 13 12:14
Greece lol

Better taking Bosnia who have a good chance of getting out their group

they battered Greece 3-1, could have been 7-1
By:
loui
When: 24 Dec 13 12:37
a lot of the european teams wont like the humidity, and the heat. that will stop most of them, spain maybe not. sth american team will win it
By:
the_don
When: 24 Dec 13 16:04
Spain are the value for me, especially out of the 4 favourites,  when you consider their recent tournament history. Yes some of their players are getting on but they will have so many options in their squad. Can't see why they're a higher price than Germany tbh. Also think Portugal and Russia could go well at bigger odds but will wait til closer to see friendlies,  fitness etc.
By:
marychain1
When: 24 Dec 13 16:09
No way will Spain do it this time round. Xavi & Iniesta are different class but past it and none of the up-and-coming midfielders are fit to lace their boots.
By:
Alias
When: 24 Dec 13 16:27
The WC is a tournament for the usual suspects. Horses for courses, but this is a South American course and no European nation has ever become champs there.

Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay.
By:
marychain1
When: 24 Dec 13 16:36
To be fair, its a sample size of 2
By:
Clarky9
When: 24 Dec 13 16:39
Spain have Fabregas, Delefeu, Silva, Mata as back up...
By:
marychain1
When: 24 Dec 13 16:42
Three wingers and Fabregas ain't gonna replace the two best midfielders of the last 15 years
By:
Stringer
When: 24 Dec 13 17:00
Spain have no chance
By:
the_don
When: 24 Dec 13 20:37
Spain's other midfielders could include Thiago, Busquets, Isco, Javi Martinez, Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, not to mention attacking midfielders already mentioned. They also have an experienced coach and a winning mentality. I understand why people may write them off as too old but I wont be.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 24 Dec 13 21:16
Am very confident that Brazil win this.
By:
marychain1
When: 24 Dec 13 21:34
Thiago - promising
Busquets - totally different type of player to Xavi & Iniesta
Isco - cracing player but much more of a deep forward
Javi Martinez - see Busquets
Fabregas - the nearest they've got but nowhere near as good
Xabi Alonso - quality but will be past it in 2014 in the heat & humidity

none of them are Xavi & Iniesta, who will still be 2 of the 3 if fit, but they are well on the wane, and by next summer will be more so.
By:
Meadow X1
When: 24 Dec 13 21:44
The concern I have about Spain is not so much doubts about their squad (though fair points), it is to do with their draw.  In Group B alongside Holland and Chile, winning this group or even qualifing is far from certain. If they were to qualify as group runners up Brazil are their likely last 16 opponents.
By:
Timeforchange
When: 24 Dec 13 21:52
Japan are a huge price, if they could defend i would fancy them against anyone.

Chile and Uruguay, weather will be a huge factor, nothing the Spanish or Italians will be use to. The weather is not just hot it is the humidity that is the key issue.
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 24 Dec 13 21:54
If humidity is going to be such a crucial factor, then I'll go for the team that is likely to have the lion's share of possession in each of their games.  It's not nearly as tiring a game when you have the ball.

Spain.
By:
Timeforchange
When: 24 Dec 13 21:55
Fair point.
By:
marychain1
When: 24 Dec 13 22:10
Anyone that thinks that Spain will have most possession and will be the best team should rewatch the Confed Cup final
By:
marychain1
When: 24 Dec 13 22:11
the reason they generally have the most possession is that they have (had) the best midfielders of our generation. That won't be true in 2014. I promise.
By:
Meadow X1
When: 24 Dec 13 22:17
No intention here to go off topic so don't give me a hard time just cos I am Scottish!  The temperature, humidity and possession of the ball are my main reasons for not fancying England.  They simply don't have the depth and quality in the squad to keep hold of the ball for long periods.  Not enough possession means chasing and in these conditions that will be very tough going.
By:
Clarky9
When: 24 Dec 13 23:09
Spain have won the last three major tournaments and are 8/1! Yes 8/1!

Confed Cup was basically a glorified friendly tournament, meant nothing
By:
Alias
When: 25 Dec 13 10:26
Regarding climate, the variation in Brazil is marked. In the north, near the equator, heat and humidity will indeed be vital factors. In other areas these will not be nearly so important. Remember that Brazil is a very large country. Over 2,600 miles E-W, Over 2,700 miles N-S.

Europe could fit into Brazil!
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