New Posts For Thread: Michael Oliverhttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliverLooked knackered last night, gave the penalty as he couldn't bare the thought of running around for another 30 minutes.pen was't a pen either, change speed settings to 0.25 seconds, Benatia made clear contact with the ball as it rebounded off of VasqI just think the pendulum has swung too far the way of the forward players.Time was the likes of marco van basten got kicked out of the game.Now the forwards are diving without even trying to score.Look I can see why oliver gave that pen, even tho ihttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554167913#554167913I just think the pendulum has swung too far the way of the forward players.Time was the likes of marco van basten got kicked out of the game.Now the forwards are diving without even trying to score.Look I can see why oliver gave that pen, even tho iTue, 17 Apr 2018 12:54:10 -0500yes its the lack of consistency that is the issue, we can all be jobsworths and say technically its a pen but then you would have penalties at every corner etc, of course benatia makes contact and of course thats intended to put vazquez off, but itshttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554161511#554161511yes its the lack of consistency that is the issue, we can all be jobsworths and say technically its a pen but then you would have penalties at every corner etc, of course benatia makes contact and of course thats intended to put vazquez off, but itsTue, 17 Apr 2018 05:04:13 -0500same reff not only didn't give carroll a pen for a push tonight but disallowed the goal because of a handball caused by the pushhttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554161259#554161259same reff not only didn't give carroll a pen for a push tonight but disallowed the goal because of a handball caused by the pushTue, 17 Apr 2018 03:57:24 -0500Rider, you've basically confirmed it's a penalty. 'He might have scored otherwise' says he was impeded by a nudge/push in the back. That's a penalty. The fact that you sometimes get away with it is irrelevant. As Lurka says, quite clearly it's diffehttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554160877#554160877Rider, you've basically confirmed it's a penalty. 'He might have scored otherwise' says he was impeded by a nudge/push in the back. That's a penalty. The fact that you sometimes get away with it is irrelevant. As Lurka says, quite clearly it's diffeTue, 17 Apr 2018 02:29:29 -0500most common phrase used by tv pundits you cant always win the ball but do enough to put him under pressure, never a penalty in 6 million years if it was a slight push of a cornerhttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554154449#554154449most common phrase used by tv pundits you cant always win the ball but do enough to put him under pressure, never a penalty in 6 million years if it was a slight push of a cornerMon, 16 Apr 2018 09:18:15 -0500you can nudge a guy when making a legit challenge for the ball. Here the nudge was off the ball. that's the difference. People talking about enough contact to go down really don't have a cluehttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554154381#554154381you can nudge a guy when making a legit challenge for the ball. Here the nudge was off the ball. that's the difference. People talking about enough contact to go down really don't have a clueMon, 16 Apr 2018 09:10:41 -0500Maradonna backing me up, end of thread.https://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554154317#554154317Maradonna backing me up, end of thread.Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:02:31 -0500but thats good modern day defending, if you've played the game, as you suggest, surely you would realise this, so many players miss narrowly when heading the ball due to these subtle nudges, it doesnt take much, but its not a penalty even though he mhttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554154285#554154285but thats good modern day defending, if you've played the game, as you suggest, surely you would realise this, so many players miss narrowly when heading the ball due to these subtle nudges, it doesnt take much, but its not a penalty even though he mMon, 16 Apr 2018 08:59:58 -0500Getting nudged in the back (more than a nudge imo anyway) when you are about to chest the ball is clearly going to have an impact on your ability to keep control of the ball. Therefore it's a penalty. I would have thought anyone who has played footbahttps://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554154127#554154127Getting nudged in the back (more than a nudge imo anyway) when you are about to chest the ball is clearly going to have an impact on your ability to keep control of the ball. Therefore it's a penalty. I would have thought anyone who has played footbaMon, 16 Apr 2018 08:33:13 -0500Think Maradonna would have punched it in with the help of God of course.https://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/31160245/michael-oliver?post_id=554154049#554154049Think Maradonna would have punched it in with the help of God of course.Mon, 16 Apr 2018 08:21:48 -0500