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Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:33 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 2:55PM, wisewords wrote:


Nov 25, 2018 --  8:52PM, StillLearning wrote:over or under 10 x 180's in final?under i'd say


9 180's. well done

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:33 PM GMT
Gurney another man on the list of players MvG can't beat anymore.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:35 PM GMT
Ryan Searle mugged beating Gurney in like R2.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:36 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:35PM, n88uk wrote:


Ryan Searle mugged beating Gurney in like R2.


everyone needs a bit of luck along the way

Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:36 PM GMT
just ask Rob Cross
Report bobweenit November 25, 2018 10:37 PM GMT
it's true wise a bit of fortune goes a long way
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:38 PM GMT
and to think bobby thornton shouldve chinned this supermug on fri Sad
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:38 PM GMT
Thornton is awful these days.
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:39 PM GMT
he is
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:39 PM GMT
Thornton is pretty bad these days, and even beats himself up before he's lost so he's got zero hope
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:40 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:21PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


chin is like peter wrong, been in steady decline for the last 18 months


I thought Daryl had gassed towards the end, but you presented this monster of a jinx and he found a bit extra

Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:41 PM GMT
did he say in the interview he was close to giving up darts this season?
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:41 PM GMT
could understand that, hes had a shocking 12 months
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:42 PM GMT
he said he thought his career was over earlier in the year because his form was terrible
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:42 PM GMT
yep
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:42 PM GMT
The thing is the Premier League ends up bad for half these players, you go around getting battered for 3 months then get set back years in your development.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:42 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:41PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


could understand that, hes had a shocking 12 months


Cooper you post some bollocks sometimes. Gurney played the Premier League until like May, and he did pretty well for his first go tbh

Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:43 PM GMT
wise he said it himself
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:43 PM GMT
we're in November now. Gurney's career ended sometime between May and November in your world?
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:43 PM GMT
he admitted he thought he was history
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:44 PM GMT
wasnt me who said his career was over, I said he had been in serious decline and he admitted it himself
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:45 PM GMT
he was just doing that thing where people are dramatic after they win. his career obviously wasn't over
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:45 PM GMT
it would be like saying Rob Cross' career is over now because he's been **** the last 5 months
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:46 PM GMT
or Peter Wright's career is over because he's changed his darts 100 times in the last 2 months
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:47 PM GMT
dross' heater is long over for sure, possibly the luckiest world title winner ever
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:47 PM GMT
dont even remember the last time wrong got to a final
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:47 PM GMT
best thing that could happen to Cross is that they don't select him for the Premier League next year
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:48 PM GMT
Wright was in a final a few months ago in that awful final vs MvG where both were terrible. Surprised you don't remember it Grant given it's only event MvG has won in eons.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:48 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:47PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


dont even remember the last time wrong got to a final


October

Runner-up     8.     2018     World Grand Prix     Netherlands Michael van Gerwen     2–5 (s)

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:48 PM GMT
Grand Prix crapshoot I think.
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:49 PM GMT
ah, I dont really follow that tournament
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:49 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:47PM, wisewords wrote:


best thing that could happen to Cross is that they don't select him for the Premier League next year


He will be top 4 so will auto qualify but they would select him anyway if he wasn't.

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:49 PM GMT
See, I never get this Grant. You constantly big up MvG. Yet then say you don't watch Players Champs, don't watch European Tour, now don't watch Grand Prix. So when do you see him win exactly?
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:50 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:49PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


ah, I dont really follow that tournament


you watched the final!

Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:50 PM GMT
only way dross isnt in prem league is if he turns it down but he wont, theres way too much money involved
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:50 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:49PM, n88uk wrote:


Nov 25, 2018 -- 10:47PM, wisewords wrote:best thing that could happen to Cross is that they don't select him for the Premier League next yearHe will be top 4 so will auto qualify but they would select him anyway if he wasn't.


ok?

Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:50 PM GMT
he should turn it down. he's badly burnt out. needs to regroup
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:51 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:49PM, n88uk wrote:


See, I never get this Grant. You constantly big up MvG. Yet then say you don't watch Players Champs, don't watch European Tour, now don't watch Grand Prix. So when do you see him win exactly?


its fairly well known on here I dont consider the grand prix a proper event

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:51 PM GMT
You probs can't feasibly turn it down without getting into big trouble.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:51 PM GMT
So good to know you admit MvG only wins non-proper events then.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:52 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:51PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


Nov 25, 2018 -- 10:49PM, n88uk wrote:See, I never get this Grant. You constantly big up MvG. Yet then say you don't watch Players Champs, don't watch European Tour, now don't watch Grand Prix. So when do you see him win exactly?its fairly well known on here I dont consider the grand prix a proper event


I know you hate the format, but I'm pretty sure you watched the final

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:52 PM GMT
And no way you turn it down anyway. Premier League is where the money is with all the guaranteed TV dates.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:52 PM GMT
how does the money work for the Premier League? do you get anything else on top of the prize money you get for where you finish?
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:53 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:51PM, n88uk wrote:


So good to know you admit MvG only wins non-proper events then.


Laugh wtf are u talking about

Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:53 PM GMT
I maybe did watch the final wise but I cant even remember it, that tells you how much I think of the event, it didnt stand out in my mind at all
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:53 PM GMT
Maybe Ally Pally will rekindle the fire in Cross. Thing is atm he's worse than he was like a few months into his pro career last year.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:54 PM GMT
it's not the fire he's missing. he's burnt out. knackered. can't concentrate 3 darts at a time
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:54 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:52PM, wisewords wrote:


how does the money work for the Premier League? do you get anything else on top of the prize money you get for where you finish?


yeh u get appearance fees aswell and u get ur travel and accom paid for

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:54 PM GMT
Well what events has MvG won Grant?

Grand Prix? Not a proper event you say.
Premier League? Glorified exhibition
Masters? The worst major by far and pretty much an exhibition too.

Isn't that it?
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:55 PM GMT
when mugsur turned the prem league down he said how much it was worth to him playing, cant remember the amount but 60k stands out oin my mind
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:55 PM GMT
Masters isn't ranked either
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:55 PM GMT
Your sponsors more importantly want the guaranteed 3 months exposure, and your deals will be structured for number of TV appearances, and the Premier League = a lot of TV appearances.
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:56 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:54PM, n88uk wrote:


Well what events has MvG won Grant?Grand Prix? Not a proper event you say.Premier League? Glorified exhibitionMasters? The worst major by far and pretty much an exhibition too.Isn't that it?


you forgetting the 2nd biggest even on the tour, the world matchpplay

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:56 PM GMT
Which he didn't win...
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:56 PM GMT
Anderson won.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:56 PM GMT
Grant just pure making it up now as he goes along.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:57 PM GMT
MvG went out like R1 at the Matchplay so you're just further supporting the theory.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:57 PM GMT
Crushed by De Zwaan who you were doubting at the time.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:57 PM GMT
MVG still a decent player, but his aura is damaged. the fear factor isn't there
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 10:58 PM GMT
He's thrown in a lot of sub-par performances too where it just doesn't happen for whatever reason.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 10:59 PM GMT
he had Gurney beat tonight and he couldn't convert basically
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:59 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:56PM, n88uk wrote:


Which he didn't win...


Laugh so all ur talking about is 2018?

Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 10:59 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:56PM, n88uk wrote:


Grant just pure making it up now as he goes along.


you what?

Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 11:00 PM GMT
so let me get this straight, MVG has played terrible this year and still won how many events??
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 11:00 PM GMT
Laugh
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:00 PM GMT
Well obviously we're talking about the now. We're not talking about the past are we. Taylor would be nailed on to win the worlds if things were based on the past.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:01 PM GMT
MvG holds 1 ranking TV major, so not many of the big ones. Of course he probs won about 10 ET events.
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 11:01 PM GMT
you said MVG only wins non events, u never mentioned just for 2018
Report GRANTCKING November 25, 2018 11:02 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 4:51PM, n88uk wrote:


So good to know you admit MvG only wins non-proper events then.


.

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:02 PM GMT
Won 8 of 13 ET's.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:03 PM GMT
Yer but it's obviously I am talking about the now. Like next you will be saying the Worlds, and I know he's won it twice in the past clearly.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:03 PM GMT
MVG usually the best at handling the billion matches in 2 days. but the schedule did him in a bit today, especially having to play his semi final 2nd. Gurney had all his matches nicely spaced out so less danger of gasssing
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:04 PM GMT
Also lmao at the last ET. MvG averaged 111 in that final and Wade 79 Crazy. How did Wade even win 3 legs?
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:05 PM GMT
MvG defies the logic really of when it's like first to 6 legs his record is absolutely ridiculous, but once the format gets longer his dominance wanes. Which isn't what you'd expect because first to 6 is known as a crapshoot for a reason.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:06 PM GMT
Like when I said MvG won 8 of 13 ETs, it's really 8 of 11 as he skipped 2. That's a ridiculous record over such a short format.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:10 PM GMT
Gary Anderson played 0 out of 13 ETs. ETs aren't important in the grand scheme of things.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:10 PM GMT
Gary Anderson won the UK Open, Matchplay and Champions League. Also reached the Grand Slam final
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:11 PM GMT
and will be fresh and firing at the Worlds
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:11 PM GMT
Yer hence why Anderson doesn't qualify for European Championships as he doesn't even bother with ET.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:13 PM GMT
shrewd
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:15 PM GMT
It's fine if you're on your game. But eg. it has contributed to others decline. Eg. Lewis barely playing events in last few years cost him badly, and now he's behind the 8 ball and had to go back on the grind and actually playing ETs this year after his ranking took a battering.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:16 PM GMT
Lewis had to have an operation on his anus and missed god knows how many months as a result
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:17 PM GMT
He was already going backwards before that though. He had like an awful 2016 and 2017.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:18 PM GMT
I mean tbh 2018 hasn't been any better, but he's moved back up the rankings a bit as he's been more committed to stuff like European Tour which he wasn't playing before.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:19 PM GMT
And he's played all the floor events in Barnsley etc
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:21 PM GMT
Anyway as you say with Lewis it was a general decline over the years. He doesn't look after himself properly and it shows in his game. He can still play well for 3 legs at a time though, so the talent is still there. He'd need to make alot of changes though to get back to his old level
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:21 PM GMT
Yer but really his level isn't any actual better. You don't really even see him as a contender for majors atm.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:22 PM GMT
General changes in his life. Diet, lifestyle, exercise, scheduling etc
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:22 PM GMT
Yer it's hard to know. I mean Lewis always felt somewhat of an under achiever even when like he was winning worlds. Because he'd win worlds then mug about most the events of the year. He's never been as consistent as he should have been.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:22 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 5:21PM, n88uk wrote:


Yer but really his level isn't any actual better. You don't really even see him as a contender for majors atm.


Lewis hasn't been a contender to win things since like 2014 or something

Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:22 PM GMT
Now he just seems miles away though. Like you never see Lewis average over 100 anymore.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:23 PM GMT
He has to grind out his wins.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:24 PM GMT
Listen n88uk, you're never going to be consistent if you're an obese slob who goes long periods without barely practicing, is more interested in playing games consoles and what his wife is making him for his tea, and who makes no effort to keep his weight down in general
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:24 PM GMT
Adrian Lewis Call of Duty World Champion
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:25 PM GMT
Nobody is perfect, but Lewis hasn't done things right
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:26 PM GMT
Be interesting to see how many hours they actually put in on practice boards.

Like Anderson seems to contradict himself on this. Last week at grand slam he was saying he's surprised how well he's playing as he doesn't practice anymore. Today he was saying on ITV he's gonna be locked away for the next month on the practice board.
Report n88uk November 25, 2018 11:27 PM GMT
I mean Taylor put ridiculous hours in on the practice boards.
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:28 PM GMT
Anderson isn't a prolific practicer on his own. But he probs does a few hours with people like Michael Smith and Ian White now and again. But he sticks with the line that he doesn't practice. You can say what you want though
Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:29 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2018 -- 5:26PM, n88uk wrote:


Be interesting to see how many hours they actually put in on practice boards.Like Anderson seems to contradict himself on this. Last week at grand slam he was saying he's surprised how well he's playing as he doesn't practice anymore. Today he was saying on ITV he's gonna be locked away for the next month on the practice board.


Anderson said he used his exhibitions in the run up to the Worlds for his practice. He takes his exhibitions more seriously

Report wisewords November 25, 2018 11:32 PM GMT
Catch you later
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