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nobbybarnesranoverthewrongtrip
24 Jan 13 10:08
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will be having £1400 of my money to win a free night on the p1ss. hope not to wait to long to collect.
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Report DartsnBooze January 24, 2013 2:26 PM GMT
Good luck with your bet. It's not a stake i'd ever have.
I'm sure you wouldn't even notice the dent in your bank balance. Grin

I'm a pessimist on this market. It's not hitting the 170 that worries me, it's leaving it on in the first place.

There seems to be at least 1 hit in most tourneys, but 1/14?

2 x 170's @ pdc 2013 world champs = paul lim and phil taylor.

Premier league:
2012 = 2 x 170.
2011 = 4 x 170.
2010 = 1.
2009 = 3.
Report Howdi January 25, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
I would have said it was a 1/50 shot but looking at above stats i would tread a bit carefully than i would have done.

Good stuff Darts and Booze your stats are excellent.
Report Toto82 January 26, 2013 4:30 PM GMT
There is another terrific bet for the PL at far better odds.  It would have won the last 8 years.
Report Howdi January 26, 2013 8:03 PM GMT
Thats not a ringing endorsement at 1-14 you would it had
Report Howdi January 26, 2013 8:03 PM GMT
hope it had ^^
Report DartsnBooze January 26, 2013 11:50 PM GMT
Taylor to finish in the top 4 is a million times better than a 170 finish. If it's such a sure thing why arent there at least 10 hit in every live tourney? Taylor @ 2/9 to finish in the top 4 is an incredible gift. Only a non darting incident could stop this copping. Max bet 10 pts Taylor to finish in the top 4 @ 2/9 BV.
Report Zazu January 27, 2013 8:14 AM GMT
Only a non darting incident could stop this copping.


This is an obese 50yr old who was threatening to quit at the worlds. Just inviting stress into your life for 2months imo



Whitlock & Barney week 1 look massive prices to me
Report Toto82 January 27, 2013 8:48 AM GMT
There will be even more draws now with the shorter matches so laying the favourite could be the way to go.  It definitely would have been profitable last year as Hamilton and Painter got several wins or draws when their opponents were odds-on.
Report Toto82 January 27, 2013 8:49 AM GMT
Was there any 170 in the BDO champs?
Report DartsnBooze January 27, 2013 9:24 AM GMT
Toto82
Was there any 170 in the BDO champs?

NO.

The price was 2/5 for a 170 in bdo.
No @ 7/4.
Report DartsnBooze January 27, 2013 9:30 AM GMT
Someone posted the immortal words, a 170 in the bdo worlds @ 2/5 was "buying money."  Cry

Sometimes you have to understand the game. I do believe O'shea missed the bull for a 170. May have been in the final against waites?
Report DartsnBooze January 27, 2013 9:42 AM GMT
@ Zazu, taylor obese? Not as big as he has been but have you seen some the other players? Old father time will eventually catch up with him, but in the meanwhile i believe Taylor finishing in the top 4 is a better proposition than a 170 finish in the PL.

How many 170 finishes will there be in the PL?

1 or more = 1/14
1-2 = 11/10
Over 2.5 = 1/2
Under 2.5 = 6/4
5 or more = 6/1
None = 8/1
Over 6 = 25/1 : Are you tempted?
Report Zazu January 27, 2013 12:20 PM GMT
Im not saying 1/14 170 is a good bet. According to wiki only Taylor and Lim hit one at the worlds Shocked

2/9 probably is value, but my point was he only has to pick up a shoulder/neck/wrist/elbow injury, get ill or throw his toys out of the pram and he'll be out of the top 4.
Report DartsnBooze January 27, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
I did say in an earlier post that a non darting related incident is the only thing stopping Taylor Confused

What about a 9 dart finish in PL?

Best prices:
YES 1/1
NO 10/11

I'd happily have 1pt for NO 170 finish in PL if 10/1 becomes available.

Best odds:
YES 1/14
NO 8/1
Report Toto82 January 27, 2013 6:41 PM GMT

Jan 27, 2013 -- 6:20AM, Zazu wrote:


Im not saying 1/14 170 is a good bet. According to wiki only Taylor and Lim hit one at the worlds 2/9 probably is value, but my point was he only has to pick up a shoulder/neck/wrist/elbow injury, get ill or throw his toys out of the pram and he'll be out of the top 4.


IF he drops out, it is money back with most bookies

Report DartsnBooze January 28, 2013 11:35 AM GMT
I wouldn't think so Toto. I don't think any bookie would be so generous.

Back to the 170 finish...
From my calculations there will be roughly 700 legs minimum played in the PL.

From 9 darts thrown to leave 170:
100/140/91
100/100/131 etc...

From 12 darts thrown it gets a bit tougher as you have to hit some poor scores to be on 170 after 12, which equates to an 83 average. And all 10 of these players are far better than that.

I'd love to know the stats for how many times a 170 finish is left/attempted during any of the majors.

P.S. I've emailed Betfair to add a "170 Finish" market. Devil
Report DartsnBooze January 29, 2013 1:55 PM GMT
Yet no email reply from Betfair. Re: 170 market Devil
Report Toto82 January 30, 2013 8:20 PM GMT
I emailed them requesting a "To top the table" market and got it after 2 days
Report DartsnBooze January 31, 2013 4:19 PM GMT
Betfair have responded RE: 170 market.

Thank you for your e-mail.

Having emailed our Darts Market Operations Team they have stated that we offer this as a weekly special but unfortunately we will not be offering it for the whole competition.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further enquiries.

Cry
Report nobbybarnesranoverthewrongtrip February 1, 2013 10:44 AM GMT
if you tell them you will seed the market to l04% or less they will put it up i.m.e
Report DartsnBooze February 11, 2013 4:08 PM GMT
Weekly 170 Finishes in Premier League 2013:

Week 1 - NONE.
I only saw Simon Whitlock attempt a 170 finish: First dart T20, S1, S20.
Of all the players, Whitlock was the only one who tried several combinations to line up the 170 finish.

Week 2?
Report GRANTCKING February 13, 2013 9:01 PM GMT
1/14 fml, about a million better 1/14 shots than this
Report DartsnBooze February 14, 2013 11:26 AM GMT
Last week someone was very keen to lump on a 170 Finish for week 1 @ 7/2.

WEEK 2 SPECIALS: WILL THERE BE A 170 FINISH?

YES = 4/1 freds, lads, corr, hill.

NO = 1/5 boyls & vic.
Report DartsnBooze February 15, 2013 3:16 PM GMT
Weekly 170 Finishes in Premier League 2013:

Week 1 - NONE.
Week 2 - NONE.
Week 3 ?
Report DartsnBooze February 22, 2013 1:10 PM GMT
Weekly 170 Finishes in Premier League 2013:

Week 1 - NONE.
Week 2 - NONE.
Week 3 - NONE.
Week 4 ?
Report GRANTCKING February 24, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
possibly the worst 1/14 of all time, cant see it winning
Report DartsnBooze February 24, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
On this very subject - Steve Beaton nailed a 170 finish @ Crawley uk open qualifiers, having thrown the magical "9 darts" to leave it on Wink
Report TheVis February 28, 2013 10:56 AM GMT
DnB - have you got any stats on how many legs in PL end on bull finish?  I was interested to see BF sportsbook using this as a money back offer on correct sores and can't imagine it is overly generous.
Report DartsnBooze March 1, 2013 3:18 PM GMT
Vis, I don't have those kind of stats. Mine are more in the memory bank.
There might be a few on here who spreadsheet everything. Getting the info divulged might be a different matter.

You may find your answer by checking planet darts Net Zone "leg by leg write ups" for all matches played - Good luck: http://www.pdc.tv/news/article/1u72fi7u69i4i1sfrgandxyi9j/title/mccoys-premier-league-darts-netzone

One thing of note, with the reduction of legs per match the highest finishes have been very low so far match by match.
I may be wrong but i think Anderson's 124 finish was the highest this week?
Report DartsnBooze March 1, 2013 3:26 PM GMT
Weekly 170 Finishes in Premier League 2013:

Week 1 - NONE.
Week 2 - NONE.
Week 3 - NONE.
Week 4 - NONE.
Week 5 ?
Report Zazu March 1, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
at what week do you change underpants? Confused
Report TheVis March 2, 2013 8:01 AM GMT
Cheers BnD. Have had a read of the reports and on the small sample so far you would expect 1 or 2 bull leg finishes per week.
Report DartsnBooze March 14, 2013 12:00 PM GMT
Weekly 170 Finishes in Premier League 2013:

Week 1 - NONE.
Week 2 - NONE.
Week 3 - NONE.
Week 4 - NONE.
Week 5 - NONE.
Week 6 ? Manchester 14/03
Report lanza March 14, 2013 8:33 PM GMT
never in doubt.  CoolLaugh
Report Navel-Gazer March 14, 2013 8:35 PM GMT
Duly landed...but you sweated for it!
Good old Wadey for the perspiring fav backers Grin

I'd have laid the balls of it if there was a market on here, so I've saved a few quid Wink
Report DartsnBooze March 15, 2013 1:58 PM GMT
I only caught the matches today.

Both wade and whitlock left 170 after the customary 9 darts.

Whitlock:
100
135
96 - S20, S19, T19

wade:
98
174
S20, S20, S19.

From that i'd say you can count your lucky stars for wade only scoring a paltry 40 after 2 darts.

Bang tidy my man Grin
Report DartsnBooze March 15, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
Hit the wrong botton before finishing post?

NG, there was a 170 market on bf. I lay it every week @ 4/1 0.5pt

Weekly 170 Finishes in Premier League 2013:

Week 1 - NONE.
Week 2 - NONE.
Week 3 - NONE.
Week 4 - NONE.
Week 5 - NONE.
Week 6 - ONE - *WADE*
Week 7 ? Cardiff.
Report DartsnBooze March 22, 2013 3:41 PM GMT
Week 1 - NONE.
Week 2 - NONE.
Week 3 - NONE.
Week 4 - NONE.
Week 5 - NONE.
Week 6 - ONE - *WADE*
Week 7 - NONE.
Week 8 ? Glasgow.

Whitlock pursuit to nail the 170 finish goes on for another week.
Report DartsnBooze March 24, 2013 1:52 PM GMT
Week 8 Specials - NO 170 Finish @ 1/14 for 3,330k Cry
Report DartsnBooze March 30, 2013 1:59 PM GMT
Week 1 - NONE.
Week 2 - NONE.
Week 3 - NONE.
Week 4 - NONE.
Week 5 - NONE.
Week 6 - ONE - *WADE*
Week 7 - NONE.
Week 8 - NONE.
Week 9 ? Brighton.
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